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Since: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:35 am
Post subject: 2nd Hard Drive. help! Archived from groups: alt>comp>hardware>homebuilt (more info?)
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Hello guys,
I am planning to put a 2nd hard drive in my PC to use only for backups. It will
be the slave drive. I will copy the files once everyday on it. What I would like
to know is tat when I turn on the PC will the 2nd hard drive spin all day?? I
would need it only for a few mins everyday so I don't want it to spin all day to
wear out. i am using win xp pro.
Kindly let me know and thanks before hand. >> Stay informed about: 2nd Hard Drive. help! |
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Since: Sep 25, 2004 Posts: 101
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:35 am
Post subject: Re: 2nd Hard Drive. help! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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RayOfLight wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> I am planning to put a 2nd hard drive in my PC to use only for backups. It will
> be the slave drive. I will copy the files once everyday on it. What I would like
> to know is tat when I turn on the PC will the 2nd hard drive spin all day?? I
> would need it only for a few mins everyday so I don't want it to spin all day to
> wear out. i am using win xp pro.
>
> Kindly let me know and thanks before hand.
If you really don't want the drive to be on all the time you have your
computer turned on, you could get a rack that fits in a 5-1/4 inch slot
and has a removable tray with the hard drive. You would have to power
off to plug in the removable drive, but that's about the only
inconvenience. I've been using several of these for years. It allows
me to have several different OS's and configurations that I plug in as
needed.
Another option would be an external USB or Firewire plug-in drive. You
wouldn't have to power down to connect one of these. You can buy the
cases without drives and put whatever size EIDE drive you want. The
following link is just one example of many USB cases:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gearxs.com/gearxs/product_info.php?products_id=3338" target="_blank">http://www.gearxs.com/gearxs/product_info.php?products_id=3338</a>
I am by no means endorsing or recommending this particular item!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 2nd Hard Drive. help! |
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Since: Aug 18, 2004 Posts: 93
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:35 pm
Post subject: Re: 2nd Hard Drive. help! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"RayOfLight" <RayOfLight RemoveThis @intnet.mu> wrote...
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> I am planning to put a 2nd hard drive in my PC to use only for backups. It
> will
> be the slave drive. I will copy the files once everyday on it. What I would
> like
> to know is tat when I turn on the PC will the 2nd hard drive spin all day?? I
> would need it only for a few mins everyday so I don't want it to spin all day
> to
> wear out. i am using win xp pro.
Use the Power Options app in the Control Panel to set your HDs to power down
after a set time. Depending on your setup, your primary HD will not likely spin
down while you're working. You may occasionally have to wait for your primary
HD to spin up (or for the backup HD to spin up for some functions like emptying
the Recycle Bin), but the backup drive will spin down until needed.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 2nd Hard Drive. help! |
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Since: Jul 13, 2004 Posts: 144
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:35 pm
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John R Weiss wrote:
> "RayOfLight" <RayOfLight RemoveThis @intnet.mu> wrote...
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>>I am planning to put a 2nd hard drive in my PC to use only for backups. It
>>will
>>be the slave drive. I will copy the files once everyday on it. What I would
>>like
>>to know is tat when I turn on the PC will the 2nd hard drive spin all day?? I
>>would need it only for a few mins everyday so I don't want it to spin all day
>>to
>>wear out. i am using win xp pro.
>
>
> Use the Power Options app in the Control Panel to set your HDs to power down
> after a set time. Depending on your setup, your primary HD will not likely spin
> down while you're working. You may occasionally have to wait for your primary
> HD to spin up (or for the backup HD to spin up for some functions like emptying
> the Recycle Bin), but the backup drive will spin down until needed.
>
>
Are you then saying that the control of these drives is individual
rather than both drives together? I have never used this feature and
wonder if only the inactive drive will shut down after the designated time?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 2nd Hard Drive. help! |
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Since: Jan 03, 2004 Posts: 7693
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:35 pm
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:19:02 GMT, Ken <user RemoveThis @domain.invalid>
wrote:
>John R Weiss wrote:
>> "RayOfLight" <RayOfLight RemoveThis @intnet.mu> wrote...
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>>>I am planning to put a 2nd hard drive in my PC to use only for backups. It
>>>will
>>>be the slave drive. I will copy the files once everyday on it. What I would
>>>like
>>>to know is tat when I turn on the PC will the 2nd hard drive spin all day?? I
>>>would need it only for a few mins everyday so I don't want it to spin all day
>>>to
>>>wear out. i am using win xp pro.
>>
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>> Use the Power Options app in the Control Panel to set your HDs to power down
>> after a set time. Depending on your setup, your primary HD will not likely spin
>> down while you're working. You may occasionally have to wait for your primary
>> HD to spin up (or for the backup HD to spin up for some functions like emptying
>> the Recycle Bin), but the backup drive will spin down until needed.
>>
>>
> Are you then saying that the control of these drives is individual
>rather than both drives together? I have never used this feature and
>wonder if only the inactive drive will shut down after the designated time?
Yes it will, but there are many things that can interfere
with the concept actually working as intended. For example
some systems will spin-up drives again when files are
deleted, not just when the recycle bin is emptied, though
this may be because user has set "recycle bin" to delete
files rather than their being moved to the recycle bin.
In general though, yes the function if the sleep mode is
meant to allow all drives not being accessed to spin-down
after the prescribed interval, but I'm not entirely sure
what events reset that timer and if it's a global timer
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Since: Aug 18, 2004 Posts: 93
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:35 pm
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"Ken" <user RemoveThis @domain.invalid> wrote...
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>> Use the Power Options app in the Control Panel to set your HDs to power down
>> after a set time.
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> Are you then saying that the control of these drives is individual rather than
> both drives together? I have never used this feature and wonder if only the
> inactive drive will shut down after the designated time?
No, the control is for both drives. However, your usage pattern is likely to be
such that the primary drive seldom, if ever, shuts down. Any required disk
access, such as network polling, Index Service, firewall & antivirus software,
etc. will reset the timeout on the primary drive. The backup drive will be
accessed less, though, so it will spin down and remain off most of the day.
I have a 30 minute timeout on my HDs, and the backup drive spins down on
schedule. The primary drive seldom if ever spins down, because of some of the
software I run continuously.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 2nd Hard Drive. help! |
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Since: Mar 06, 2004 Posts: 1371
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:35 pm
Post subject: Re: 2nd Hard Drive. help! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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All harddrives connected to the motherboard ALWAYS spin when the computer is
on.
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DaveW
"RayOfLight" <RayOfLight.RemoveThis@intnet.mu> wrote in message
news:r3l0s0pij9i7ejvealnr4sql45epr4ud87@4ax.com...
> Hello guys,
>
> I am planning to put a 2nd hard drive in my PC to use only for backups. It
> will
> be the slave drive. I will copy the files once everyday on it. What I
> would like
> to know is tat when I turn on the PC will the 2nd hard drive spin all
> day?? I
> would need it only for a few mins everyday so I don't want it to spin all
> day to
> wear out. i am using win xp pro.
>
> Kindly let me know and thanks before hand.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 2nd Hard Drive. help! |
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Since: Aug 18, 2004 Posts: 93
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:35 pm
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Since: Jan 03, 2004 Posts: 7693
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:35 am
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 02:58:17 GMT, "John R Weiss"
<jrweiss98155@.comNOSPAMcast.net> wrote:
>"DaveW" <none DeleteThis @zero.org> wrote...
>> All harddrives connected to the motherboard ALWAYS spin when the computer is
>> on.
>
>
>IDE? SATA? SCSI?
>
Don't try to make sense out of that statement, sometimes
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Since: May 28, 2004 Posts: 40
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:18 pm
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Since: Nov 21, 2004 Posts: 16
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:44 pm
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Depending on Mfg card....the control panel's display screen saver
setting setup, could have a sleep/turn off drive cycle....
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:18:46 -0500, "-Alby Hewlet" <bogus DeleteThis @nowhere.net>
wrote:
>drill hole in case
>cut power lead to 2nd drive
>connect switch to leads
>mount switch within easy reach
>turn of drive whenever you want.
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Since: Mar 22, 2005 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:35 pm
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:44:21 -0500, Leon Manfredi <manfred RemoveThis @toast.net>
wrote:
>Depending on Mfg card....the control panel's display screen saver
>setting setup, could have a sleep/turn off drive cycle....
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>On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:18:46 -0500, "-Alby Hewlet" <bogus RemoveThis @nowhere.net>
>wrote:
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>>drill hole in case
>>cut power lead to 2nd drive
>>connect switch to leads
>>mount switch within easy reach
>>turn of drive whenever you want.
After reading everyone's input to this matter, I tend to agree with
whomever said to go for the USB/FIREWIRE option as I too fall into
this catagory of hating the drive being ON for no reason and thus
cutting its life expentancy shorter than normal.
I did the same for my second DVDRW now... and the first one already
got burnt-out a long time ago. Quite frankly, I dont see a reason as
to why a DVDRW/CDRW or even an HDD should be ON when not needed for
any purposes other than to have to turn it ON when is needed.
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