640x480 30FPS Movie Mode Camera??

Gymmy Bob typed:

 > Careful with the "proprietary battery" as a negative. I have owned 3
 > cameras so far with standard AA cells and now a Pentax Optio 550 with
 > aproprietary battery. I got a spare one right away when I bought it.
 >
 > Let me tell you this. The spare battery wasn't necessary unless I
 > want to go longer than a week without my charger in my suitcase. I
 > travelling around Lake Huron for a week and took 300-400 pictures
 > over the period of a week and never had to charge the battery until
 > the last day. It wasn't necessary because I was using the backup
 > battery at that point.
 >
 > Bad contacts, taking them out into a charger, checking each cell is
 > getting a charge, lasting 2-3 hours, never using the LCD as a view
 > finder, turning off the features, carrying extra cells? Never again.
 > I leave it all one. I think I had used the rangefinder viewer in my
 > Optio 3 times in the last 6 months. The LCD stays on and all the
 > features are being used with it. How do they do it?. I don't know.
 >
 > Before people get uptight about the cell capacity I was using 2000mAh
 > AA cells, NiMh.
 >
 > Get the LioN cells. They are worth it.


Here we disagree. NiMH are cheap, high capacity, fast chargeable(even less
than 1 hour). And if you're out, you can still buy alkalines and put them
in( they last pretty good if flash is not used). When you LiIon is empty,
all you can do is put it into charger and wait...
They sell 2300 mAh NiMH now. And they last more than 500 shots in decent
cameras (liek my Canon S1 IS).

 >
 >
 > "ubernatural" <john_fletcher*ns*@shaw.ca> wrote in message
 > news:Xns94C15F7D33451ubernatural@24.64.223.211...
  >> "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan RemoveThis @too.sleepy> wrote in
  >> news:ZxH8c.6982$%x4.926501@news.siol.net:
  >>
  >>
   >>> Canon S1 IS. Nice 10x optical zoom 3,2Mpixel stuff. Image stabilizer
   >>> etc...seems like quite a camera. I don't have it, but i'm looking
   >>> around for a friend. And i think Minolta DiMage Z1 is also capable
   >>> of such movie and has very quick focusing. Also 10x optical zoom
   >>>
   >>>
  >>
  >> Careful with the Minolta DImage Z1 if you're looking for strong movie
  >> mode. Its sound is out of sync with the picture at 30fps - VGA mode.
  >> Check out the review on dcresource.com for a sample movie clip.
  >> Speaking of dcresource.com, they have a full review of the S1 IS as
  >> well (they had it before anyone else did, I don't know how they got
  >> their hands on one...). Of course, since they are now available, I
  >> think lots of reviews will be available in the near future.
  >>
  >> The Fuji F700 has impressive VGA 30fps movie mode as well. It's $200
  >> cheaper than the S1 IS, but uses a proprietary battery and xD
  >> storage. Still, it's much tinier, it's faster, and $200 can buy a
  >> lot of spare batteries!
  >>
  >> Panasonic lumix cameras are worth a look too, if you're more
  >> interested in 30fps than 640x480 resolution. Excellent optics,
  >> great zoom, image stabilization, and expensive!!
  >>
  >> My choice is the Canon S1 IS, fwiw. I'll be getting it in a couple
  >> weeks.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 640x480 30FPS Movie Mode Camera?? 

The camera technology has definitely improved for battery life but a friend
of mine just purchased a Minolta 6mp? aprox $1500 and it's batteries last
almost an hour.

I can't afford to buy or charge that many batterries for a camera. If you
gave me one it would be at home when I am out with my 20 hour battery.

The number of pictures does not relate to battery life. If you want to count
it that way my Pentax will probably do about 2000-3000 for one charge.
Cameras are not used that way for most. They are used for a few pics here
and a few there.

Oh yeah the internal flash reaches 17 feet. try that with most. Most small
digital cameras flashes reach about 5-6 feet.

The LioN battery is not always the answer. I hear reports the Sony
miniatures only last about an hour per charge.

"SleeperMan" <SleeperMan DeleteThis @too.sleepy> wrote in message
news:xpZbc.273$37.39704@news.siol.net...
 > Gymmy Bob typed:
 >
  > > Careful with the "proprietary battery" as a negative. I have owned 3
  > > cameras so far with standard AA cells and now a Pentax Optio 550 with
  > > aproprietary battery. I got a spare one right away when I bought it.
  > >
  > > Let me tell you this. The spare battery wasn't necessary unless I
  > > want to go longer than a week without my charger in my suitcase. I
  > > travelling around Lake Huron for a week and took 300-400 pictures
  > > over the period of a week and never had to charge the battery until
  > > the last day. It wasn't necessary because I was using the backup
  > > battery at that point.
  > >
  > > Bad contacts, taking them out into a charger, checking each cell is
  > > getting a charge, lasting 2-3 hours, never using the LCD as a view
  > > finder, turning off the features, carrying extra cells? Never again.
  > > I leave it all one. I think I had used the rangefinder viewer in my
  > > Optio 3 times in the last 6 months. The LCD stays on and all the
  > > features are being used with it. How do they do it?. I don't know.
  > >
  > > Before people get uptight about the cell capacity I was using 2000mAh
  > > AA cells, NiMh.
  > >
  > > Get the LioN cells. They are worth it.
 >
 >
 > Here we disagree. NiMH are cheap, high capacity, fast chargeable(even less
 > than 1 hour). And if you're out, you can still buy alkalines and put them
 > in( they last pretty good if flash is not used). When you LiIon is empty,
 > all you can do is put it into charger and wait...
 > They sell 2300 mAh NiMH now. And they last more than 500 shots in decent
 > cameras (liek my Canon S1 IS).
 >
  > >
  > >
  > > "ubernatural" <john_fletcher*ns*@shaw.ca> wrote in message
  > > news:Xns94C15F7D33451ubernatural@24.64.223.211...
   > >> "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan DeleteThis @too.sleepy> wrote in
   > >> news:ZxH8c.6982$%x4.926501@news.siol.net:
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>> Canon S1 IS. Nice 10x optical zoom 3,2Mpixel stuff. Image stabilizer
   > >>> etc...seems like quite a camera. I don't have it, but i'm looking
   > >>> around for a friend. And i think Minolta DiMage Z1 is also capable
   > >>> of such movie and has very quick focusing. Also 10x optical zoom
   > >>>
   > >>>
   > >>
   > >> Careful with the Minolta DImage Z1 if you're looking for strong movie
   > >> mode. Its sound is out of sync with the picture at 30fps - VGA mode.
   > >> Check out the review on dcresource.com for a sample movie clip.
   > >> Speaking of dcresource.com, they have a full review of the S1 IS as
   > >> well (they had it before anyone else did, I don't know how they got
   > >> their hands on one...). Of course, since they are now available, I
   > >> think lots of reviews will be available in the near future.
   > >>
   > >> The Fuji F700 has impressive VGA 30fps movie mode as well. It's $200
   > >> cheaper than the S1 IS, but uses a proprietary battery and xD
   > >> storage. Still, it's much tinier, it's faster, and $200 can buy a
   > >> lot of spare batteries!
   > >>
   > >> Panasonic lumix cameras are worth a look too, if you're more
   > >> interested in 30fps than 640x480 resolution. Excellent optics,
   > >> great zoom, image stabilization, and expensive!!
   > >>
   > >> My choice is the Canon S1 IS, fwiw. I'll be getting it in a couple
   > >> weeks.
 >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 640x480 30FPS Movie Mode Camera?? 

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 21:33:05 +0200, "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan DeleteThis @too.sleepy> wrote:

 >Gymmy Bob typed:
 >
  >> Careful with the "proprietary battery" as a negative. I have owned 3
  >> cameras so far with standard AA cells and now a Pentax Optio 550 with
  >> aproprietary battery. I got a spare one right away when I bought it.
  >>
  >> Let me tell you this. The spare battery wasn't necessary unless I
  >> want to go longer than a week without my charger in my suitcase. I
  >> travelling around Lake Huron for a week and took 300-400 pictures
  >> over the period of a week and never had to charge the battery until
  >> the last day. It wasn't necessary because I was using the backup
  >> battery at that point.
  >>
  >> Bad contacts, taking them out into a charger, checking each cell is
  >> getting a charge, lasting 2-3 hours, never using the LCD as a view
  >> finder, turning off the features, carrying extra cells? Never again.
  >> I leave it all one. I think I had used the rangefinder viewer in my
  >> Optio 3 times in the last 6 months. The LCD stays on and all the
  >> features are being used with it. How do they do it?. I don't know.
  >>
  >> Before people get uptight about the cell capacity I was using 2000mAh
  >> AA cells, NiMh.
  >>
  >> Get the LioN cells. They are worth it.
 >
 >
 >Here we disagree. NiMH are cheap, high capacity, fast chargeable(even less
 >than 1 hour). And if you're out, you can still buy alkalines and put them
 >in( they last pretty good if flash is not used). When you LiIon is empty,
 >all you can do is put it into charger and wait...
 >They sell 2300 mAh NiMH now. And they last more than 500 shots in decent
 >cameras (liek my Canon S1 IS).




NO AA Cells are utter Crap, battery contact problems and broken battery doors,
stay well away from them.

Yes I am a service technician..


  >>
  >>
  >> "ubernatural" <john_fletcher*ns*@shaw.ca> wrote in message
  >> news:Xns94C15F7D33451ubernatural@24.64.223.211...
   >>> "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan DeleteThis @too.sleepy> wrote in
   >>> news:ZxH8c.6982$%x4.926501@news.siol.net:
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>> Canon S1 IS. Nice 10x optical zoom 3,2Mpixel stuff. Image stabilizer
   >>>> etc...seems like quite a camera. I don't have it, but i'm looking
   >>>> around for a friend. And i think Minolta DiMage Z1 is also capable
   >>>> of such movie and has very quick focusing. Also 10x optical zoom
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>> Careful with the Minolta DImage Z1 if you're looking for strong movie
   >>> mode. Its sound is out of sync with the picture at 30fps - VGA mode.
   >>> Check out the review on dcresource.com for a sample movie clip.
   >>> Speaking of dcresource.com, they have a full review of the S1 IS as
   >>> well (they had it before anyone else did, I don't know how they got
   >>> their hands on one...). Of course, since they are now available, I
   >>> think lots of reviews will be available in the near future.
   >>>
   >>> The Fuji F700 has impressive VGA 30fps movie mode as well. It's $200
   >>> cheaper than the S1 IS, but uses a proprietary battery and xD
   >>> storage. Still, it's much tinier, it's faster, and $200 can buy a
   >>> lot of spare batteries!
   >>>
   >>> Panasonic lumix cameras are worth a look too, if you're more
   >>> interested in 30fps than 640x480 resolution. Excellent optics,
   >>> great zoom, image stabilization, and expensive!!
   >>>
   >>> My choice is the Canon S1 IS, fwiw. I'll be getting it in a couple
   >>> weeks.
 >
 >

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puss.DeleteThis@purrpurr.com typed:

 > On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 21:33:05 +0200, "SleeperMan"
 > <SleeperMan.DeleteThis@too.sleepy> wrote:
 >
  >> Gymmy Bob typed:
  >>
   >>> Careful with the "proprietary battery" as a negative. I have owned 3
   >>> cameras so far with standard AA cells and now a Pentax Optio 550
   >>> with aproprietary battery. I got a spare one right away when I
   >>> bought it.
   >>>
   >>> Let me tell you this. The spare battery wasn't necessary unless I
   >>> want to go longer than a week without my charger in my suitcase. I
   >>> travelling around Lake Huron for a week and took 300-400 pictures
   >>> over the period of a week and never had to charge the battery until
   >>> the last day. It wasn't necessary because I was using the backup
   >>> battery at that point.
   >>>
   >>> Bad contacts, taking them out into a charger, checking each cell is
   >>> getting a charge, lasting 2-3 hours, never using the LCD as a view
   >>> finder, turning off the features, carrying extra cells? Never again.
   >>> I leave it all one. I think I had used the rangefinder viewer in my
   >>> Optio 3 times in the last 6 months. The LCD stays on and all the
   >>> features are being used with it. How do they do it?. I don't know.
   >>>
   >>> Before people get uptight about the cell capacity I was using
   >>> 2000mAh AA cells, NiMh.
   >>>
   >>> Get the LioN cells. They are worth it.
  >>
  >>
  >> Here we disagree. NiMH are cheap, high capacity, fast
  >> chargeable(even less than 1 hour). And if you're out, you can still
  >> buy alkalines and put them in( they last pretty good if flash is not
  >> used). When you LiIon is empty, all you can do is put it into
  >> charger and wait...
  >> They sell 2300 mAh NiMH now. And they last more than 500 shots in
  >> decent cameras (liek my Canon S1 IS).
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > NO AA Cells are utter Crap, battery contact problems and broken
 > battery doors,
 > stay well away from them.
 >
 > Yes I am a service technician..
 >
 >

If you're a service man, you know that all that broken doors are not coming
from crap batteries, but from wrong handling. I've had many different
devices with such doors and i never had one break in all these years.
It's like if you'd say that all tyres we use for cars are crap since they
suffer from holes, made with nails, screws etc, so stay away from them...
Don't blaim batteries for mistakes, caused by men.. I don't prefer AA cells
as such, it's just all LiIon's are made for specific camera and as such
bloddy expensive, so if you wanna extra pack, you pay twice or more as much
as for AA pack. And you need recharge one or other.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 640x480 30FPS Movie Mode Camera?? 

WHAT--Canon? Nope, mate. My Canon lasts over 5 hours of play (with LCD on,
sure) with one pack of NiMH 2300 mAh. YOu must confused models...

Gymmy Bob typed:

 > Careful of battery life. I believe that is the one that has a hard
 > time with more than a half an hour.
 >
 > "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan.RemoveThis@too.sleepy> wrote in message
 > news:m5Zbc.269$37.39184@news.siol.net...
  >> ubernatural typed:
  >>
   >>> "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan.RemoveThis@too.sleepy> wrote in
   >>> news:ZxH8c.6982$%x4.926501@news.siol.net:
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>> Canon S1 IS. Nice 10x optical zoom 3,2Mpixel stuff. Image
   >>>> stabilizer etc...seems like quite a camera. I don't have it, but
   >>>> i'm looking around for a friend. And i think Minolta DiMage Z1 is
   >>>> also capable of such movie and has very quick focusing. Also 10x
   >>>> optical zoom
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>> Careful with the Minolta DImage Z1 if you're looking for strong
   >>> movie mode. Its sound is out of sync with the picture at 30fps -
   >>> VGA mode. Check out the review on dcresource.com for a sample movie
   >>> clip. Speaking of dcresource.com, they have a full review of the S1
   >>> IS as well (they had it before anyone else did, I don't know how
   >>> they got their hands on one...). Of course, since they are now
   >>> available, I think lots of reviews will be available in the near
   >>> future.
   >>>
   >>> The Fuji F700 has impressive VGA 30fps movie mode as well. It's
   >>> $200 cheaper than the S1 IS, but uses a proprietary battery and xD
   >>> storage. Still, it's much tinier, it's faster, and $200 can buy a
   >>> lot of spare batteries!
   >>>
   >>> Panasonic lumix cameras are worth a look too, if you're more
   >>> interested in 30fps than 640x480 resolution. Excellent optics,
   >>> great zoom, image stabilization, and expensive!!
   >>>
   >>> My choice is the Canon S1 IS, fwiw. I'll be getting it in a couple
   >>> weeks.
  >>
  >> I saw some really bad reviews on Minolta's Z1 - supposely it's total
  >> useless in night scenes. I like my Canon S1 IS. Good movie, no out
  >> of syncs.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 640x480 30FPS Movie Mode Camera?? 

With 500 shots i meant mixed mode with some shooting, some waiting and some
reviewing made photos. I know that noone will make 500 shots one after
another. It'a just my old Olympus C300 made just over 100 shots while Canon
makes over 500 shots.
20 hours is a lot for any camera or pack. I doubt there's any pack that will
last that long. If you're away from power, you should consider car powered
charger.

Gymmy Bob typed:

 > The camera technology has definitely improved for battery life but a
 > friend of mine just purchased a Minolta 6mp? aprox $1500 and it's
 > batteries last almost an hour.
 >
 > I can't afford to buy or charge that many batterries for a camera. If
 > you gave me one it would be at home when I am out with my 20 hour
 > battery.
 >
 > The number of pictures does not relate to battery life. If you want
 > to count it that way my Pentax will probably do about 2000-3000 for
 > one charge. Cameras are not used that way for most. They are used for
 > a few pics here and a few there.
 >
 > Oh yeah the internal flash reaches 17 feet. try that with most. Most
 > small digital cameras flashes reach about 5-6 feet.
 >
 > The LioN battery is not always the answer. I hear reports the Sony
 > miniatures only last about an hour per charge.
 >
 > "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan.TakeThisOut@too.sleepy> wrote in message
 > news:xpZbc.273$37.39704@news.siol.net...
  >> Gymmy Bob typed:
  >>
   >>> Careful with the "proprietary battery" as a negative. I have owned 3
   >>> cameras so far with standard AA cells and now a Pentax Optio 550
   >>> with aproprietary battery. I got a spare one right away when I
   >>> bought it.
   >>>
   >>> Let me tell you this. The spare battery wasn't necessary unless I
   >>> want to go longer than a week without my charger in my suitcase. I
   >>> travelling around Lake Huron for a week and took 300-400 pictures
   >>> over the period of a week and never had to charge the battery until
   >>> the last day. It wasn't necessary because I was using the backup
   >>> battery at that point.
   >>>
   >>> Bad contacts, taking them out into a charger, checking each cell is
   >>> getting a charge, lasting 2-3 hours, never using the LCD as a view
   >>> finder, turning off the features, carrying extra cells? Never again.
   >>> I leave it all one. I think I had used the rangefinder viewer in my
   >>> Optio 3 times in the last 6 months. The LCD stays on and all the
   >>> features are being used with it. How do they do it?. I don't know.
   >>>
   >>> Before people get uptight about the cell capacity I was using
   >>> 2000mAh AA cells, NiMh.
   >>>
   >>> Get the LioN cells. They are worth it.
  >>
  >>
  >> Here we disagree. NiMH are cheap, high capacity, fast
  >> chargeable(even less than 1 hour). And if you're out, you can still
  >> buy alkalines and put them in( they last pretty good if flash is not
  >> used). When you LiIon is empty, all you can do is put it into
  >> charger and wait...
  >> They sell 2300 mAh NiMH now. And they last more than 500 shots in
  >> decent cameras (liek my Canon S1 IS).
  >>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> "ubernatural" <john_fletcher*ns*@shaw.ca> wrote in message
   >>> news:Xns94C15F7D33451ubernatural@24.64.223.211...
   >>>> "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan.TakeThisOut@too.sleepy> wrote in
   >>>> news:ZxH8c.6982$%x4.926501@news.siol.net:
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>> Canon S1 IS. Nice 10x optical zoom 3,2Mpixel stuff. Image
   >>>>> stabilizer etc...seems like quite a camera. I don't have it, but
   >>>>> i'm looking around for a friend. And i think Minolta DiMage Z1 is
   >>>>> also capable of such movie and has very quick focusing. Also 10x
   >>>>> optical zoom
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> Careful with the Minolta DImage Z1 if you're looking for strong
   >>>> movie mode. Its sound is out of sync with the picture at 30fps -
   >>>> VGA mode. Check out the review on dcresource.com for a sample
   >>>> movie clip. Speaking of dcresource.com, they have a full review of
   >>>> the S1 IS as well (they had it before anyone else did, I don't
   >>>> know how they got their hands on one...). Of course, since they
   >>>> are now available, I think lots of reviews will be available in
   >>>> the near future.
   >>>>
   >>>> The Fuji F700 has impressive VGA 30fps movie mode as well. It's
   >>>> $200 cheaper than the S1 IS, but uses a proprietary battery and xD
   >>>> storage. Still, it's much tinier, it's faster, and $200 can buy a
   >>>> lot of spare batteries!
   >>>>
   >>>> Panasonic lumix cameras are worth a look too, if you're more
   >>>> interested in 30fps than 640x480 resolution. Excellent optics,
   >>>> great zoom, image stabilization, and expensive!!
   >>>>
   >>>> My choice is the Canon S1 IS, fwiw. I'll be getting it in a couple
   >>>> weeks.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 640x480 30FPS Movie Mode Camera?? 

Thread warning! I was refering to the Minolta Dimage something that my
ex-boss just bought.

I have heard good things about the mini-Canons. I have one of their old
camcorders and it was junk but probably a different manufacturer behind the
name.


"SleeperMan" <SleeperMan DeleteThis @too.sleepy> wrote in message
news:Nwdcc.326$37.45245@news.siol.net...
 > WHAT--Canon? Nope, mate. My Canon lasts over 5 hours of play (with LCD on,
 > sure) with one pack of NiMH 2300 mAh. YOu must confused models...
 >
 > Gymmy Bob typed:
 >
  > > Careful of battery life. I believe that is the one that has a hard
  > > time with more than a half an hour.
  > >
  > > "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan DeleteThis @too.sleepy> wrote in message
  > > news:m5Zbc.269$37.39184@news.siol.net...
   > >> ubernatural typed:
   > >>
   > >>> "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan DeleteThis @too.sleepy> wrote in
   > >>> news:ZxH8c.6982$%x4.926501@news.siol.net:
   > >>>
   > >>>
   > >>>> Canon S1 IS. Nice 10x optical zoom 3,2Mpixel stuff. Image
   > >>>> stabilizer etc...seems like quite a camera. I don't have it, but
   > >>>> i'm looking around for a friend. And i think Minolta DiMage Z1 is
   > >>>> also capable of such movie and has very quick focusing. Also 10x
   > >>>> optical zoom
   > >>>>
   > >>>>
   > >>>
   > >>> Careful with the Minolta DImage Z1 if you're looking for strong
   > >>> movie mode. Its sound is out of sync with the picture at 30fps -
   > >>> VGA mode. Check out the review on dcresource.com for a sample movie
   > >>> clip. Speaking of dcresource.com, they have a full review of the S1
   > >>> IS as well (they had it before anyone else did, I don't know how
   > >>> they got their hands on one...). Of course, since they are now
   > >>> available, I think lots of reviews will be available in the near
   > >>> future.
   > >>>
   > >>> The Fuji F700 has impressive VGA 30fps movie mode as well. It's
   > >>> $200 cheaper than the S1 IS, but uses a proprietary battery and xD
   > >>> storage. Still, it's much tinier, it's faster, and $200 can buy a
   > >>> lot of spare batteries!
   > >>>
   > >>> Panasonic lumix cameras are worth a look too, if you're more
   > >>> interested in 30fps than 640x480 resolution. Excellent optics,
   > >>> great zoom, image stabilization, and expensive!!
   > >>>
   > >>> My choice is the Canon S1 IS, fwiw. I'll be getting it in a couple
   > >>> weeks.
   > >>
   > >> I saw some really bad reviews on Minolta's Z1 - supposely it's total
   > >> useless in night scenes. I like my Canon S1 IS. Good movie, no out
   > >> of syncs.
 >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 640x480 30FPS Movie Mode Camera?? 

HI,

I know this is dated, but I too bought (in late-November 2004) a Canon
S1 IS D/C for the "movie mode" (640x480 30 FPS).

I see the Hitachi 4B+GB microdrive sells for $139.99 with rebates
expiring 12/11/04.

I haven't used this camera at all--but my manual at p. 53 says the limit
is 1GB or about 1 hr recording time. The impression (not having tested
it) is that a large CF card will not be recognized by the system. Is
that correct? Hitachi's website states the Hitachi 3K4 4GB microdrive
is "compatible" with the Canon S1 IS.

Has any one actually used a 4GB microdrive in the Canon S1 IS?

Any info appreciated.

CL

SleeperMan wrote:
 > Gymmy Bob typed:
 >
 >
  >>640 x 480 in movie mode is real nice and a highly wanted feature over
  >>most of the QVGA capabilities on my Optio 550.
  >>
  >>VGA was originally defined as 640x480x 16 colours. Who knows from
  >>there?
  >>
 >
 > I just got Above mentioned Canon (S1 IS). It's movie is quite great, but
 > sadly it's size is anormous. Currently i have 256 M CF card and i can record
 > 2min 5 sec of movie in 640*480 superfine quality and 2 min 52 sec in 640*480
 > normal quality. Even with 1 G microdrive this would be only about 9
 > minutes...
 > It's great movie, but only for a really short clips. Of course that's all at
 > 30 FPS rate. If i lower to 15 FPS, it's all doubled. And there's also option
 > 320 * 240 at 30 or 15 fps, so lowest quality gets 12 min 15 sec of movie at
 > 256M Note that even this is same or even better than a lot of other cameras
 > have.
 > Currently, only down side of this camera i can say is it has a trouble with
 > focusing in low ambient lighting. And here we're talking in a living room
 > with 3x40W standard lamps. My old Olypmus C300 has no problems focusing in
 > same light conditions...that's strange...indeed.
 >
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clearlee wrote:
 > HI,
 >
 > I know this is dated, but I too bought (in late-November 2004) a Canon
 > S1 IS D/C for the "movie mode" (640x480 30 FPS).
 >
 > I see the Hitachi 4B+GB microdrive sells for $139.99 with rebates
 > expiring 12/11/04.
 >
 > I haven't used this camera at all--but my manual at p. 53 says the
 > limit is 1GB or about 1 hr recording time. The impression (not
 > having tested it) is that a large CF card will not be recognized by
 > the system. Is that correct? Hitachi's website states the Hitachi
 > 3K4 4GB microdrive is "compatible" with the Canon S1 IS.
 >
 > Has any one actually used a 4GB microdrive in the Canon S1 IS?
 >
 > Any info appreciated.
 >
 > CL
 >

That's missunderstanding...
The manual says that you can't make a file, larger than 1G, and NOT that you
can't HAVE CF card (or drive) larger than 1G. You can have (tested by many
reviewers) 8G drive and make 8 movie clips, each 1G long. BUT you can't make
ONE movie clip which filesize is longer than 1G. That's camera's file system
limit. How long you shoot depends on quality settings and by the camera,
which can't shoot longer than 1 hour. Then you can stop and start again.

BTW i've read in some other thread's link that Hitachi drives are not all
compatible with this camera, so you better check it out.

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I've been looking around for awhile and although i am also looking for a full dv camera I'm an extreme bargain hunter. I have come across an Aiptek IS-DV camera that does 3mp stills, plays mp3 , records voice, is a webcam and records vhs quality MPEG-4 videos 29.5 fps at 640x480. Check this camera out on Aiptek.com web site I got it there at a special price of 149.00 with an additinal battery and accesories. Let me know your opimion on this camera.
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