6600gt install problem

Can you boot into safe mode?


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After giving this some thought, it's possible that the PSU may be
underpowered for this card. However, in saying that, it is only a 6600GT
and I just did a quick check around the net and found that XFX recommend as
a minimum for this card a 300W PSU.

So in theory at least, you should be OK. You do have a few items powered of
that PSU so my recommendations in the long term are that you should upgrade
to a larger more powerful unit. I personally like Enermax supplies. I have
seen a number of Antec supplies give trouble or go bellyup in some way.

The problem you describe could be a number of things including the above but
the first thing I would try to isolate is that you have removed any trace of
the existing driver. 44.03 Detonators won't be compatible with a 6600GT so
that may explain some of your issues. Try rebooting to a last known good
config. and try to remove any trace of the exisitng driver. You may need to
reinstall the GF2 just to get the system up and running in the short term.
Make sure you have a new more up to date set of drivers on hand ready for
installation if you can get it booted OK with the new 6600GT installed.
Failing all that, maybe a reformat of your HDD and a fresh clean install of
Win XP and newer up to date drivers is the answer. It's a proven solution
finder if software and/or drivers are giving you problems. It is however,
time consuming.

Any thought of getting a speed increase out of a higher powered PSU is utter
nonsense. The only thing a higher powered PSU will give you is more
stability and that will only be if your original PSU wasn't supplying enough
clean juice to your system to begin with. Higher powered PSU's are required
for more demanding hardware like the higher end Nvidia's 6800 and ATI X800
series video cards and the faster processors from Intel and AMD. They can
also be of benefit if you want to overclock components as this requires more
power to do successfully. So don't think by buying a new 450W PSU, your
going to magically get an extra 10-20FPSs in your favourite games. It just
won't happen.

I hope this is of some benefit to you.


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 > "Bmchan" <bmchan RemoveThis @spammmmcharter.net> wrote in message
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  >>I tried to upgrade from Geforce2 MX 100/200 to this XFX GeForce 6600
  >> P4 2.26GHz
  >> 1024MB DDR-SDRAM
  >> MoBo: Intel D845EBT
  >> AGP Version 2 4X
  >> Power supply: 300W (3.3V & 5.0V = 200W Max). I am running 2 HD's, a
  >> floppy, CD and DVD drive off this PS. I disconnected an auxiliary fan
  >> and connected the power to the card.
 >
 > My thought is that your problems are 100% related to a woefully inadequate
 > power supply. Get a decent brand name (like Antec) 350W-450W unit. On a
 > second note, you'll notice a massive speed difference when you do get a
 > decent power supply, but your 6600GT is going to be held back a lot by
 > that 2.26Ghz P4.
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All Nvidia Videocards run off the same driver.
Since your upgrading from MX (Nvidia) to 6600GT (also Nvidia), all you had
to do was update the driver.
If you went from ATI to Nvidia, the perhaps you should remove the old
drivers, but this is not the case for you.
You made a simple job ... difficult!

Cheers
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:35:45 -0700, "Ed Light" <nobody RemoveThis @nobody.there>
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 >Can you boot into safe mode?

Thanks everyone.

I did a system restore and that brought me back to the Geforce driver.
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In article <d4ffg5$6sm$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au>, Bradley says...
 > After giving this some thought, it's possible that the PSU may be
 > underpowered for this card. However, in saying that, it is only a 6600GT
 > and I just did a quick check around the net and found that XFX recommend as
 > a minimum for this card a 300W PSU.
 >
THat's 300W decent branded, not 300W mickey mouse. World of difference.


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"Sharp" <Sharp.DeleteThis@SharpAddress.com> wrote in message
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 > All Nvidia Videocards run off the same driver.
 > Since your upgrading from MX (Nvidia) to 6600GT (also Nvidia), all you had
 > to do was update the driver.
 > If you went from ATI to Nvidia, the perhaps you should remove the old
 > drivers, but this is not the case for you.
 > You made a simple job ... difficult!
 >
 > Cheers
 > Sharp

No, they don't. You might download one driver installation utility for all
GF cards under XP, but within the installation files are different driver
files specific to every card (at the very least there's different ones for
each generation of card.) There's a HUGE difference between his old GF2 MX
and the 6600GT. To think they'd use the same driver is ludicrous.

Even if you're updating the drivers for the same card it's always best to
uninstall the old version first. Especially if you've been trying out beta
drivers.

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Well, here is the resolution. It's working fine. By that I mean, I
CAN PLAY DOOM 3. Quake IV - I am ready.

No PSU change. I used the new Driver Cleaner (Pro). The steps were:

Disconnect the modem

Have the Driver Cleaner program installed and ready to go (screwed
that up once). ALso have ea system restore set to bail me.

Uninstalled the old driver and booted to Safe Mode

Ran the Driver Cleaner form Safe Mode

Shut down and installed the new card.

Disconnected an auxiliary fan and the DVD drive

Booted to Safe Mode and installed the new driver. The installation
hung for an hour but finally finished.


Tha was it. Now I just have to tweak the settings and enjoy. It
allows me to play Q3 with all the eye candy turned on.

The only problem is I cannot install DirectX nine because Wintel does
not recognize its authenticity signature blah.....

thanks for the comments. In the end they all brought me to successful
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  > > All Nvidia Videocards run off the same driver.
  > > Since your upgrading from MX (Nvidia) to 6600GT (also Nvidia), all you
had
  > > to do was update the driver.
  > > If you went from ATI to Nvidia, the perhaps you should remove the old
  > > drivers, but this is not the case for you.
  > > You made a simple job ... difficult!
  > >
  > > Cheers
  > > Sharp
 >
 > No, they don't. You might download one driver installation utility for
all
 > GF cards under XP, but within the installation files are different driver
 > files specific to every card (at the very least there's different ones for
 > each generation of card.) There's a HUGE difference between his old GF2
MX
 > and the 6600GT. To think they'd use the same driver is ludicrous.

Thats incorrect.
It is the same driver that supports a whole range of video cards.
For example, Nvidia 71.89 driver supports Geforce MX -> 6800.
Having different drivers for every possible video card is what is really
ludicrous.

 > Even if you're updating the drivers for the same card it's always best to
 > uninstall the old version first. Especially if you've been trying out
beta
 > drivers.

By definition, removing old drivers and installing new ones is not called
updating.
Updating old drivers is more simple, and usually does not cause any
problems.
Again, if your moving from ATI to Nvidia then I would suggest removing the
old drivers.

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"Sharp" <Sharp.DeleteThis@SharpAddress.com> wrote
 > By definition, removing old drivers and installing new ones is not called
 > updating.
 > Updating old drivers is more simple, and usually does not cause any
 > problems.

nvidia says to uninstall the old ones.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_installation_hints.html" target="_blank">http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_installation_hints.html</a>

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it's all so ludicrous ??
Yikes !!
Hard times ...

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 > Thats incorrect.
 > It is the same driver that supports a whole range of video cards.
 > For example, Nvidia 71.89 driver supports Geforce MX -> 6800.
 > Having different drivers for every possible video card is what is really
 > ludicrous.

Thats incorrect.. the older nvidia drivers for gf 2 cards and for some gf4
cards went under the banner of 'detonator', these drivers do not have
information to support the newer gf fx and gf6 series cards, to think they
could have written information required by a gf 6600gt into a detonator
driver designed for the gf 2 boards 4 years ago is ludicrous, when they
probably hadnt even thought of a 6600gt. You could theoretically and
probably practically get a display using an old detonator driver set, but
they would be woefully in-accurate and featureless. The newer nvidia drivers
are called 'forceware' so these are the ones you want to be looking at,
70.00 series and above, but drivers for your old card.... bin them,

 > By definition, removing old drivers and installing new ones is not called
 > updating.

correct me if im wrong, but if i remove say 66.00 drivers and install 77.00
set, i have just updated my drivers right ? if i uninstall win98 and put
winxp on.. i would have just updated my pc, or updated my os, if i removed
nero 5 and put on nero 6, i wouldve just updated my cd burning software
wouldnt i ? updating, upgrading whatever, i just find it sad that people
like to try and 'quote' other people of a technical mind.. to try and show
to the rest of the world that 'i know more than you',

'by definition, removing old drivers and installing new ones is not called
updating' whoa get you.. who gives a shit ?? why bother to post that rubbish
?

my post is purposefully tongue in cheek but accurate, and if your gonna try
and talk down someone elses technical knowledge by belittling them rather
than suggesting, advising, to try and get one-up manship then you dont
belong in these forums, and your advice is certainly of no use to those
seeking it

russ





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 >
   >> > All Nvidia Videocards run off the same driver.
   >> > Since your upgrading from MX (Nvidia) to 6600GT (also Nvidia), all you
 > had
   >> > to do was update the driver.
   >> > If you went from ATI to Nvidia, the perhaps you should remove the old
   >> > drivers, but this is not the case for you.
   >> > You made a simple job ... difficult!
   >> >
   >> > Cheers
   >> > Sharp
  >>
  >> No, they don't. You might download one driver installation utility for
 > all
  >> GF cards under XP, but within the installation files are different driver
  >> files specific to every card (at the very least there's different ones
  >> for
  >> each generation of card.) There's a HUGE difference between his old GF2
 > MX
  >> and the 6600GT. To think they'd use the same driver is ludicrous.
 >
 > Thats incorrect.
 > It is the same driver that supports a whole range of video cards.
 > For example, Nvidia 71.89 driver supports Geforce MX -> 6800.
 > Having different drivers for every possible video card is what is really
 > ludicrous.
 >
  >> Even if you're updating the drivers for the same card it's always best to
  >> uninstall the old version first. Especially if you've been trying out
 > beta
  >> drivers.
 >
 > By definition, removing old drivers and installing new ones is not called
 > updating.
 > Updating old drivers is more simple, and usually does not cause any
 > problems.
 > Again, if your moving from ATI to Nvidia then I would suggest removing the
 > old drivers.
 >
 > Cheers
 > Sharp
 >
 >
 >
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You're going to need DX9.0C

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 > Well, here is the resolution. It's working fine. By that I mean, I
 > CAN PLAY DOOM 3. Quake IV - I am ready.
 >
 > No PSU change. I used the new Driver Cleaner (Pro). The steps were:
 >
 > Disconnect the modem
 >
 > Have the Driver Cleaner program installed and ready to go (screwed
 > that up once). ALso have ea system restore set to bail me.
 >
 > Uninstalled the old driver and booted to Safe Mode
 >
 > Ran the Driver Cleaner form Safe Mode
 >
 > Shut down and installed the new card.
 >
 > Disconnected an auxiliary fan and the DVD drive
 >
 > Booted to Safe Mode and installed the new driver. The installation
 > hung for an hour but finally finished.
 >
 >
 > Tha was it. Now I just have to tweak the settings and enjoy. It
 > allows me to play Q3 with all the eye candy turned on.
 >
 > The only problem is I cannot install DirectX nine because Wintel does
 > not recognize its authenticity signature blah.....
 >
 > thanks for the comments. In the end they all brought me to successful
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