7NJl6 and AMD Barton XP-M 2400+/2500+ Anyone using this co..

uddarts wrote:
> "" wrote:
> > I am about to upgrade from my current Palomino 1700+ to a
> > Barton. Before
> > I pick a 2600+ not the mobile (XP-M) version, I would like to
> > hear from
> > others who are using the mobile version in a 7NJL6. I am
> > especially
> > interested in the 2400FQQC4 and the 2500FQQ4C. These
> > processors are
> > clock unlocked according to a few reviews I have read and I
> > would like
> > to use one of them if the BIOS of the 7NJL6 will run it above
> > stock
> > speeds (266MHz FSB and 1.8 or 1.867 GHz respectively).
>
> first you can answer a question for me. does the 7njl6 have any way to
> set multies or voltage? does the board have temp or voltages sensors?
>
> as far as i know chaintech bios does not handle mobiles. i have a
> 7njs-ultra and with the v9.0 i have to set the multi in the bios.
>
> i recently bought a kt600 and put a unlocked xp2500 in it. it’s like
> driving a car without a rearview mirror. there are no sensors. since
> the xp2500 has a 11 multi, i set mem to 1:1 200fsb@2200mhz. i’ve run
> prime95 for 24 hours on it. i plan on trying a pin mod to see what
> else it will do. i’m planning on trying a 11.5 multi which what a
> straight xp2600 would have. when is the question. whether a pin mod
> will produce the same results i don’t no yet. i do have a xp2400-m to
> try later. some boards require cutting bridges and the like with
> mobiles, i think. there are few ifs here. i won’t know till i try. if
> you give me a week or so i can give the 2400-m a shot.
>
>
> ud
>
The manual for the 7NJL6 shows a BIOS setting of expert for the CPU
Interface. However, when I go into the BIOS neither expert nor Turbo are
available. Only optimal and Aggressive show up. I don't know if you can
set these things as the manual and my BIOS screens (BIOS 2) do not
agree. That is why I was asking the questions which started this thread.
Hopefully someone else will respond with more info.
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i did some tinkering yesterday with a 2400-m in the c-kt600. as a drop and go you get a 1200mhz. i did several different pin mods and could not get anything that would come close to a stable system. it appears the way the bios is written, either it will never work with a mobile or there needs to be an additional modification.

i have a 7nif4 that i picked up at the same time as the 600. it has the optmal and agressive setting too. i've got a duron 1800 in it now and haven't experimented with it yet with the unlocked xp2500 or the xp2400-m to see if there is a multi option that becomes available.

i would think your board and bios would react close to that of the 600, with a mobile. i wouldn't gamble on getting the mobile to work.

i see two possible choices. a xp2500+ with the 11 multi or maybe the xp2600+ , with the 11.5. since i was able to run the 2500 at 11x200 without any mod, you should be able to do the same and run at xp3200/2200mhz. you might be but no guaranty to get a xp2600+ to 11..5x200. this all hangs on whether your using 400 ram.

i don't know if your in the states but the only location that i have puchased from before is

http://www.pcprogress.com/product.asp?m1=pw&pid=AMDXP2500333OEM

for the xp2500+.

you can play with the fsbs too as long as there is a agp & pci lock on the board. the 7nif4 does.

you can use

http://www.cpuid.org/clockgen.php

my 2 cents..

edit: i don't see why you couldn't use the pin mod with a stock xp for some extra voltage. that should work ok. as long you have good cooling.

ud
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stanmc wrote:
> I am about to upgrade from my current Palomino 1700+ to a Barton. Before
> I pick a 2600+ not the mobile (XP-M) version, I would like to hear from
> others who are using the mobile version in a 7NJL6. I am especially
> interested in the 2400FQQC4 and the 2500FQQ4C. These processors are
> clock unlocked according to a few reviews I have read and I would like
> to use one of them if the BIOS of the 7NJL6 will run it above stock
> speeds (266MHz FSB and 1.8 or 1.867 GHz respectively).
I am now able to answer my own question. The 7NJL6 does not support the
Barton XP-M chips very well. I installed the one I received today
(7/13/05) from NewEgg and it was only able to get to 1200MHz (1.2GHz). I
had thought that maybe the BIOS would offer the Expert mode for the CPU
if it had a clock unlocked chip. It won't in BIOS 2.0. I removed the
chip and put it in my ASUS A7N8X which immediately supported it and
overclocked it. I took the clock unlocked Barton 2500 (not mobile) from
the A7N8X and put it in the 7NJL6 and was able to get it to run as a
2500 @ 166/333 MHz.

I just hope the VNF4/Ultra is more adaptable/configurable.
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i don't think chaintech has a board/bios that actually reads the mobile. i have a 7njs zenith. i can set my multis and have good voltage control for the vcore and vdmm. i've had it running 11.5x220 with a 2600-m and corsair 6-2-2-2 ram.

you should be able to run the cpu:ram at 200fsb if you set the timing to spd.


you should like the vnf4. people have had good overclocks with the 3000 venice core at a nice price. it's hard to predict what the next oc'r cpu is going to be a month from now.


ud
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