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Paul Lower

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:06 am
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Hi
I have just updated my motherboard to the above with a view to getting a
800MHz CPU.
I am new to Intel upgrades, being used to building AMD systems.
Is it possible to temporarily run a 800MHz chip with PC2100 memory. I want
to upgrade gradually.
The MSI site seems to indicate that this is possible or do I need PC3200
straight away?
Paul

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:48 pm
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:06:33 +0100, "Paul Lower"
<paul.RemoveThis@lowerp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

 >Hi
 >I have just updated my motherboard to the above with a view to getting a
 >800MHz CPU.
 >I am new to Intel upgrades, being used to building AMD systems.
 >Is it possible to temporarily run a 800MHz chip with PC2100 memory. I want
 >to upgrade gradually.
 >The MSI site seems to indicate that this is possible or do I need PC3200
 >straight away?

It is a question of how default settings are for the bios. With a new
board, the board will at first boot use these defaults. It should
'smell' that the cpu is for fsb800, which means that motherboard and
ram runs 200 MHz (4x200=800, quad-pumped cpu).

I do not know it that well. I have just build one system with 865
neo-L. And I do not have it in house any more.

Then if you make the first boot with pc3200 ram, it should be possible
to set in bios a special userdefined setting.

But that could mean, that motherboard fsb has to be set to 133, so it
will make your multiplier locked cpu run substantially slower.

133/200, at only 66 % of nominal speed.

Ram is cheaper today than it used to be.

best regards

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:46 pm
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Hi JK
Thanks for replying. You have confirmed what I thought might happen. I shall
consider buying the CPU and new memory at the same time.
I have read that the 865PE chipset is fussy about the type of memory used.
The board is currently running a 2000MHz P4 at 400 FSB with two sticks of
PC2100 generic memory. I had three sticks to play with at the time I built
the system and one of them was rejected.
I can get generic or Corsair memory at a significantly higher cost.
What type of memory did you use on the system you built?
Paul
"JK" <johnknuhtsen.TakeThisOut@REMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
news:bfckjvc0i4jlo0spm7k4ksdqgq23h4d36m@4ax.com...
 > On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:06:33 +0100, "Paul Lower"
 > <paul.TakeThisOut@lowerp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
 >
  > >Hi
  > >I have just updated my motherboard to the above with a view to getting a
  > >800MHz CPU.
  > >I am new to Intel upgrades, being used to building AMD systems.
  > >Is it possible to temporarily run a 800MHz chip with PC2100 memory. I
want
  > >to upgrade gradually.
  > >The MSI site seems to indicate that this is possible or do I need PC3200
  > >straight away?
 >
 > It is a question of how default settings are for the bios. With a new
 > board, the board will at first boot use these defaults. It should
 > 'smell' that the cpu is for fsb800, which means that motherboard and
 > ram runs 200 MHz (4x200=800, quad-pumped cpu).
 >
 > I do not know it that well. I have just build one system with 865
 > neo-L. And I do not have it in house any more.
 >
 > Then if you make the first boot with pc3200 ram, it should be possible
 > to set in bios a special userdefined setting.
 >
 > But that could mean, that motherboard fsb has to be set to 133, so it
 > will make your multiplier locked cpu run substantially slower.
 >
 > 133/200, at only 66 % of nominal speed.
 >
 > Ram is cheaper today than it used to be.
 >
 > best regards
 >
 > John<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 5:16 am
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I have an 865PE Neo-LS, running Kingston HyperX 3200 - dual channel. I am
running Turbo mode, SPD memory settings, and my system is rock solid.

"Paul Lower" <paul RemoveThis @lowerp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bhdmgm$rta$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
 > Hi JK
 > Thanks for replying. You have confirmed what I thought might happen. I
shall
 > consider buying the CPU and new memory at the same time.
 > I have read that the 865PE chipset is fussy about the type of memory used.
 > The board is currently running a 2000MHz P4 at 400 FSB with two sticks of
 > PC2100 generic memory. I had three sticks to play with at the time I built
 > the system and one of them was rejected.
 > I can get generic or Corsair memory at a significantly higher cost.
 > What type of memory did you use on the system you built?
 > Paul
 > "JK" <johnknuhtsen RemoveThis @REMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
 > news:bfckjvc0i4jlo0spm7k4ksdqgq23h4d36m@4ax.com...
  > > On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:06:33 +0100, "Paul Lower"
  > > <paul RemoveThis @lowerp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
  > >
   > > >Hi
   > > >I have just updated my motherboard to the above with a view to getting
a
   > > >800MHz CPU.
   > > >I am new to Intel upgrades, being used to building AMD systems.
   > > >Is it possible to temporarily run a 800MHz chip with PC2100 memory. I
 > want
   > > >to upgrade gradually.
   > > >The MSI site seems to indicate that this is possible or do I need
PC3200
   > > >straight away?
  > >
  > > It is a question of how default settings are for the bios. With a new
  > > board, the board will at first boot use these defaults. It should
  > > 'smell' that the cpu is for fsb800, which means that motherboard and
  > > ram runs 200 MHz (4x200=800, quad-pumped cpu).
  > >
  > > I do not know it that well. I have just build one system with 865
  > > neo-L. And I do not have it in house any more.
  > >
  > > Then if you make the first boot with pc3200 ram, it should be possible
  > > to set in bios a special userdefined setting.
  > >
  > > But that could mean, that motherboard fsb has to be set to 133, so it
  > > will make your multiplier locked cpu run substantially slower.
  > >
  > > 133/200, at only 66 % of nominal speed.
  > >
  > > Ram is cheaper today than it used to be.
  > >
  > > best regards
  > >
  > > John
 >
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