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Frank Hahn

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:14 am
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Hello:

Last week, I finally had the above board reach the point of not
completely booting. It would try and stop at various places. This was
on Linux, Windows 98 and 2000.

From discussions here, it sounds as if it was the capacitors.

I emailed Epox and received the following reply:

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We can offer repair on the caps. There is a $14 S/H charge. Reply with
your address, phone# and I will process the repair.

Note: Repair is for caps only - no other board problems if present will
be fixed (as its out of warranty).
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My question is, is it worth the $14.00 to send it back for repair? I
have already ordered a replacement motherboard. If nothing else, it
would be a spare unit that could be used in place of two other systems
that I have.

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Graham W1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:16 pm
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"Frank Hahn" <fhahnisfake.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
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<...>
 > I emailed Epox and received the following reply:
 >
 > --------------------------------------------------------------------
 > We can offer repair on the caps. There is a $14 S/H charge. Reply with
 > your address, phone# and I will process the repair.
 >
 > Note: Repair is for caps only - no other board problems if present will
 > be fixed (as its out of warranty).
 > --------------------------------------------------------------------
 >
 > My question is, is it worth the $14.00 to send it back for repair?

It's a personal judgement, Frank. But the service cost amounts to
what 20% - 25% of the cost of a new board? You imply that there are
two other 'spares' available so I think under the same circumstances
I would either save the $14 or put it towards another new board and
thus keep the inventory updated a bit.

I don't think I would give $14 for a 2+ years old m/board if offered
unless I had memory and CPU which couldn't otherwise be utilised.
But it would be at the back of my mind to sell the box as a working
system to recover some cash to use for the update fund.


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:15 pm
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Why not,its only 14$ but are you sure about the capacitors?
"Frank Hahn" <fhahnisfake.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
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 > Hello:
 >
 > Last week, I finally had the above board reach the point of not
 > completely booting. It would try and stop at various places. This was
 > on Linux, Windows 98 and 2000.
 >
 > From discussions here, it sounds as if it was the capacitors.
 >
 > I emailed Epox and received the following reply:
 >
 > --------------------------------------------------------------------
 > We can offer repair on the caps. There is a $14 S/H charge. Reply with
 > your address, phone# and I will process the repair.
 >
 > Note: Repair is for caps only - no other board problems if present will
 > be fixed (as its out of warranty).
 > --------------------------------------------------------------------
 >
 > My question is, is it worth the $14.00 to send it back for repair? I
 > have already ordered a replacement motherboard. If nothing else, it
 > would be a spare unit that could be used in place of two other systems
 > that I have.
 >
 > Thanks.
 >
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Frank Hahn

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:12 am
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"Graham W" <graham.TakeThisOut@his.com.puterINVALID> wrote in news:RK7sb.7010$lm1.49234
@wards.force9.net:

 > It's a personal judgement, Frank. But the service cost amounts to
 > what 20% - 25% of the cost of a new board? You imply that there are
 > two other 'spares' available so I think under the same circumstances
 > I would either save the $14 or put it towards another new board and
 > thus keep the inventory updated a bit.
 >
 > I don't think I would give $14 for a 2+ years old m/board if offered
 > unless I had memory and CPU which couldn't otherwise be utilised.
 > But it would be at the back of my mind to sell the box as a working
 > system to recover some cash to use for the update fund.
 >
If I repaired the board, it would just be a backup. I ordered another
Epox board to replace this one thinking that it would probably not get
fixed. I plan on just reusing everything that was in the machine that
failed. If this board does not work properly, I will look at the power
supply.

The failed board, has been fairly good (even though MS Windows 98 has
been poor). If I were to fix it, I would probably buy components for the
new board and put the old stuff back in a case with the 8K7A+ and use
that for my firewall (which is currently a 486 running Linux).

The machine that I have running now is one that I have had for several
years. It has an AMD K6 400mHz running in it (the board is an Asus TX97-
XE)

My other concern is that it is not the capacitors that have failed. If
it is something else, then I will be getting new capacitors on a
motherboard that has other problems. If it is the power supply, then I
won't know that untill I get the new motherboard. The power supply in
the machine that is running, is probably only a 200-250 Watt unit. I am
afraid it will not be able to power up the Epox 8K7A+ with the AMD 1.4
GHz processor. I may try this weekend with nothing else but a very bare
install. Just enough to get the system to boot and see if it still dies.

Thanks for the responses.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:55 pm
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If it is the "common" capacitor problem it is quite obvious. The capacitors
can visibly bulge or leak brown goo. My 8K7A+ has been singularly reliable
using several version of Windows, currently XP Pro. I have installed an
XP2100+ CPU and speed wise it almost equals a newer box with DDR333 RAM and
a XP2800 CUP for most work. I am keeping my eyes open for another s/h 8K7A+
as I would be happy to build another workhorse system if I can locate a
board. I have most of the other parts.

John

"Nitza666" <nitza666.DeleteThis@pathfinder.gr> wrote in message
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| Why not,its only 14$ but are you sure about the capacitors?
| "Frank Hahn" <fhahnisfake.DeleteThis@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
| news:Xns942FE28582085fcjcnet@216.168.3.44...
| > Hello:
| >
| > Last week, I finally had the above board reach the point of not
| > completely booting. It would try and stop at various places. This was
| > on Linux, Windows 98 and 2000.
| >
| > From discussions here, it sounds as if it was the capacitors.
| >
| > I emailed Epox and received the following reply:
| >
| > --------------------------------------------------------------------
| > We can offer repair on the caps. There is a $14 S/H charge. Reply with
| > your address, phone# and I will process the repair.
| >
| > Note: Repair is for caps only - no other board problems if present will
| > be fixed (as its out of warranty).
| > --------------------------------------------------------------------
| >
| > My question is, is it worth the $14.00 to send it back for repair? I
| > have already ordered a replacement motherboard. If nothing else, it
| > would be a spare unit that could be used in place of two other systems
| > that I have.
| >
| > Thanks.
| >
| > --
| > Frank Hahn
|
|
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Frank Hahn

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:55 pm
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"John" <johndal DeleteThis @nospam.datafast.net.au> wrote in
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 > If it is the "common" capacitor problem it is quite obvious. The
 > capacitors can visibly bulge or leak brown goo. My 8K7A+ has been
 > singularly reliable using several version of Windows, currently XP
 > Pro. I have installed an XP2100+ CPU and speed wise it almost equals a
 > newer box with DDR333 RAM and a XP2800 CUP for most work. I am keeping
 > my eyes open for another s/h 8K7A+ as I would be happy to build
 > another workhorse system if I can locate a board. I have most of the
 > other parts.
 >
I have about 15 of them (both large and small) with a dried brownish rust
colored material on the top of them. There is not very much there.
There are others where the top is expanded out. There are a few where
they are flat on top (I assume this is how they typically are suppose to
look).

I am surprised that you have that fast of a processor installed in this
board. I didn't think they handle ones that fast.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:55 pm
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You can run a XP2400+ in them.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:26 am
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At the time I upgraded, Athlons were in short supply, The fastest I could
get at a fair price was the 2100, (my board is a rev 1.0). I think rev 1.0
is cleared by Epox to 2200 and rev 1.1 a little faster.

Yes, you have the common capacitor problem, which was a bad batch bought by
a number of board manufacturers, not only Pox. My board was one of the first
and I think was possibly before the trouble. It is not a very difficult job
to replace the capacitors. Getting suitable types can be a little tricky,
the rest is just care.
John

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| You can run a XP2400+ in them.
|
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 5:40 pm
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Previously Frank Hahn <fhahnisfake.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
 > Hello:

 > Last week, I finally had the above board reach the point of not
 > completely booting. It would try and stop at various places. This was
 > on Linux, Windows 98 and 2000.

 > From discussions here, it sounds as if it was the capacitors.

Look at them. "Exploded" caps look like they where leaking or have
overpreassure. If it is the caps, $14 is likely worth it.

Arno
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