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Dan D

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:10 pm Post subject: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios Archived from groups: alt>comp>periphs>mainboard>gigabyte (more info?)

Hi all I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the following: 8KNXP motherboard 2x512M HyperX memory Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) AIW PRO 9600 DVD +-RW DVD ROM Floppy When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? Thanks Dan D >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:36 am Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Dan D" <dd4st RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message news:1e017d66.0312151910.22826ac3@posting.google.com... > Hi all > > I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the > following: > > 8KNXP motherboard > 2x512M HyperX memory > Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE > Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE > SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) > AIW PRO 9600 > DVD +-RW > DVD ROM > Floppy > > When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything > worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V > to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting > too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the > FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI > verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios > settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no > avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was > try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard > disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I > can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am > perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? > > Thanks > Dan D Remove the system battery to clear the CMOS for 30 seconds and then boot up and load Optimized Defaults. And reboot..<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 15 Dec 2003 19:10:16 -0800, dd4st DeleteThis @aol.com (Dan D) wrote: >Hi all > >I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the >following: > >8KNXP motherboard >2x512M HyperX memory >Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE >Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE >SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) >AIW PRO 9600 >DVD +-RW >DVD ROM >Floppy > >When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything >worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V >to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting >too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the >FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI >verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios >settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no >avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was >try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard >disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I >can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am >perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? > >Thanks >Dan D I have the same problem with the F5 Bios and a GA-8I875 Ultra.. Comes up with (no active partition found), only using the ITE as a ATA Controller, no raid.. Its been posted here by others that the new bios is Bugged badly.. Yes I have e-mailed Gigabyte but I am still waiting..<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:53 am Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:36:54 -0700, "Tim S." <tt123 RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote: > >"Dan D" <dd4st RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message >news:1e017d66.0312151910.22826ac3@posting.google.com... >> Hi all >> >> I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the >> following: >> >> 8KNXP motherboard >> 2x512M HyperX memory >> Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE >> Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE >> SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) >> AIW PRO 9600 >> DVD +-RW >> DVD ROM >> Floppy >> >> When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything >> worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V >> to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting >> too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the >> FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI >> verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios >> settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no >> avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was >> try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard >> disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I >> can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am >> perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? >> >> Thanks >> Dan D > >Remove the system battery to clear the CMOS for 30 seconds and then boot up >and load Optimized Defaults. And reboot.. > That is not needed unless you can't get to the Bios, loading defaults clears the Cmos any way..<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:58 am Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Did you try this? Install ITE 1.4.1.6 drivers while in FB Bios Flash and reset bios to optimized defaults (bios_8knxp2_fe) Use only the onboard IDE for optical drives (not supported on ITE/SATA) Disable SATA and ICH5R controllers if not in use (do not remap SATA - leave on default) Disable LOGOS so you can se what is going on... Set Boot sequence to ITE and ITE HD0 in boot order - Important Set ITE Mode to RAID instead of ATA (does not matter they are all open channels) Loose the SCSI card while trying the above They are having boot order problems but usually only when all SATA and ITE channels are used. I have mine working fine with 11 drives but it took about 45 minute to figure out not to remap SATA and to set ITE to RAID + set boot order Also, the PAT enabled Bios may necessitate a reinstall per Gigabyte but I would not try this as a first option; they also suggested BIOS 8knxp2.ffb Could use onboard IDE for all & disable ITE? Good Luck Woger wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:36:54 -0700, "Tim S." <tt123 RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote: > > >>"Dan D" <dd4st RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message >>news:1e017d66.0312151910.22826ac3@posting.google.com... >> >>>Hi all >>> >>>I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the >>>following: >>> >>>8KNXP motherboard >>>2x512M HyperX memory >>>Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE >>>Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE >>>SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) >>>AIW PRO 9600 >>>DVD +-RW >>>DVD ROM >>>Floppy >>> >>>When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything >>>worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V >>>to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting >>>too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the >>>FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI >>>verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios >>>settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no >>>avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was >>>try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard >>>disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I >>>can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am >>>perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? >>> >>>Thanks >>>Dan D >> >>Remove the system battery to clear the CMOS for 30 seconds and then boot up >>and load Optimized Defaults. And reboot.. >> > > > > > That is not needed unless you can't get to the Bios, loading defaults clears > the Cmos any way.. > ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

simply answer use the back up bios to revert to the older bios image. G "Dan D" <dd4st RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message news:1e017d66.0312151910.22826ac3@posting.google.com... > Hi all > > I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the > following: > > 8KNXP motherboard > 2x512M HyperX memory > Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE > Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE > SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) > AIW PRO 9600 > DVD +-RW > DVD ROM > Floppy > > When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything > worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V > to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting > too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the > FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI > verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios > settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no > avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was > try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard > disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I > can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am > perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? > > Thanks > Dan D<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 3:00 am Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:58:27 -0500, Fredrick <pociask.TakeThisOut@oakland.edu> wrote: >Did you try this? > >Install ITE 1.4.1.6 drivers while in FB Bios >Flash and reset bios to optimized defaults (bios_8knxp2_fe) >Use only the onboard IDE for optical drives (not supported on ITE/SATA) >Disable SATA and ICH5R controllers if not in use (do not remap SATA - >leave on default) >Disable LOGOS so you can se what is going on... >Set Boot sequence to ITE and ITE HD0 in boot order - Important >Set ITE Mode to RAID instead of ATA (does not matter they are all open >channels) >Loose the SCSI card while trying the above > >They are having boot order problems but usually only when all SATA and >ITE channels are used. I have mine working fine with 11 drives but it >took about 45 minute to figure out not to remap SATA and to set ITE to >RAID + set boot order > >Also, the PAT enabled Bios may necessitate a reinstall per Gigabyte but >I would not try this as a first option; they also suggested BIOS 8knxp2.ffb > >Could use onboard IDE for all & disable ITE? > >Good Luck > I have 5 Drives so I do need the ITE, With the Updated Bios is shows as SCSI-0 ITE8212 as the boot option, but all SATA devices are tuned off in the Bios. Plus reset Bios to Defaults after the Update, and then set the ones I don't use. Now all I get is NO ACTIVE PARTITION, repeated all the time Only Hard Drives are on the ITE, plus no boot drive selection option in this bios version. No Hard Drives connected to the Main IDE sockets. >Woger wrote: >> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:36:54 -0700, "Tim S." <tt123.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote: >> >> >>>"Dan D" <dd4st.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:1e017d66.0312151910.22826ac3@posting.google.com... >>> >>>>Hi all >>>> >>>>I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the >>>>following: >>>> >>>>8KNXP motherboard >>>>2x512M HyperX memory >>>>Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE >>>>Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE >>>>SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) >>>>AIW PRO 9600 >>>>DVD +-RW >>>>DVD ROM >>>>Floppy >>>> >>>>When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything >>>>worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V >>>>to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting >>>>too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the >>>>FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI >>>>verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios >>>>settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no >>>>avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was >>>>try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard >>>>disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I >>>>can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am >>>>perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>>Dan D >>> >>>Remove the system battery to clear the CMOS for 30 seconds and then boot up >>>and load Optimized Defaults. And reboot.. >>> >> >> >> >> >> That is not needed unless you can't get to the Bios, loading defaults clears >> the Cmos any way.. >> >><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 3:00 am Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Your not have a good time with this board... in FE BIOS Advanced Bios features ----Hard disk boot priority --------IT 8212 - move to top Integrated peripherals ----Gigarai enabled --------- RAID mode (I could never get it to boot when set to ATA) on Chip IDE (try disabled to see what happens) or Place optical on secondary and leave primary empty - the board is supposed to automatically remap if PM & PS IDE are empty. IS PM (partition) on ITE marked as "Active" can use drive image or partition magic to check - easy to use Could try tech support at 1 (626)854-9338 (california), they sent me an unpublished BIOS for the rev 1 that addressed a PAT problem I was having. e-mail support seems slow and unrelaible but I have had very good luck with phone support... No more ideas - good luck Woger wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:58:27 -0500, Fredrick <pociask.DeleteThis@oakland.edu> wrote: > > >>Did you try this? >> >>Install ITE 1.4.1.6 drivers while in FB Bios >>Flash and reset bios to optimized defaults (bios_8knxp2_fe) >>Use only the onboard IDE for optical drives (not supported on ITE/SATA) >>Disable SATA and ICH5R controllers if not in use (do not remap SATA - >>leave on default) >>Disable LOGOS so you can se what is going on... >>Set Boot sequence to ITE and ITE HD0 in boot order - Important >>Set ITE Mode to RAID instead of ATA (does not matter they are all open >>channels) >>Loose the SCSI card while trying the above >> >>They are having boot order problems but usually only when all SATA and >>ITE channels are used. I have mine working fine with 11 drives but it >>took about 45 minute to figure out not to remap SATA and to set ITE to >>RAID + set boot order >> >>Also, the PAT enabled Bios may necessitate a reinstall per Gigabyte but >>I would not try this as a first option; they also suggested BIOS 8knxp2.ffb >> >>Could use onboard IDE for all & disable ITE? >> >>Good Luck >> > > > > > I have 5 Drives so I do need the ITE, With the Updated Bios is shows as > SCSI-0 ITE8212 as the boot option, but all SATA devices are tuned off in the > Bios. > > Plus reset Bios to Defaults after the Update, and then set the ones I don't > use. > > Now all I get is NO ACTIVE PARTITION, repeated all the time > > Only Hard Drives are on the ITE, plus no boot drive selection option in this > bios version. > > > No Hard Drives connected to the Main IDE sockets. > > >>Woger wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:36:54 -0700, "Tim S." <tt123.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>"Dan D" <dd4st.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message >>>>news:1e017d66.0312151910.22826ac3@posting.google.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi all >>>>> >>>>>I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the >>>>>following: >>>>> >>>>>8KNXP motherboard >>>>>2x512M HyperX memory >>>>>Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE >>>>>Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE >>>>>SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) >>>>>AIW PRO 9600 >>>>>DVD +-RW >>>>>DVD ROM >>>>>Floppy >>>>> >>>>>When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything >>>>>worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V >>>>>to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting >>>>>too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the >>>>>FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI >>>>>verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios >>>>>settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no >>>>>avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was >>>>>try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard >>>>>disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I >>>>>can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am >>>>>perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>>>Dan D >>>> >>>>Remove the system battery to clear the CMOS for 30 seconds and then boot up >>>>and load Optimized Defaults. And reboot.. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>That is not needed unless you can't get to the Bios, loading defaults clears >>>the Cmos any way.. >>> >>> > ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Yeah, but I want to use the UltraATA133 on GigaRAID. By the way, I am able to boot just fine by transferring the drive to the regular IDE controller. Evidently, the difference is in how it handles the ITE. Also, I noticed that the boot order option in bios changes from FB to FE. In FE, the order says "SCSI-0 : IT8212" vs "ITE Raid Controller" in FB. I have been e-mailing Gigabyte support. First they sent me bios f9a which had the same problem. Also, I believe this was for the Rev 1 board even though the tech insisted it was for Rev 2. Next the recommended I do a recovery operation on Win XP. I didn't even try this last option because it just doesn't make sense given that the problem occurs before Win XP even begins to load. I guess I will play around with the RAID/ITE settings and see if I get something to work. Dan D "Gethsemane" <gethzemanes(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<FIWDb.22099$5F2.5202@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>... > simply answer use the back up bios to revert to the older bios image. > > G > > "Dan D" <dd4st.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message > news:1e017d66.0312151910.22826ac3@posting.google.com... > > Hi all > > > > I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the > > following: > > > > 8KNXP motherboard > > 2x512M HyperX memory > > Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE > > Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE > > SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) > > AIW PRO 9600 > > DVD +-RW > > DVD ROM > > Floppy > > > > When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything > > worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V > > to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting > > too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the > > FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI > > verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios > > settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no > > avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was > > try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard > > disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I > > can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am > > perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? > > > > Thanks > > Dan D<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:11 am Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:01:49 -0000, "Gethsemane" <gethzemanes(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote: >simply answer use the back up bios to revert to the older bios image. > >G Yes but it does not help with the PAT fix, and yes that is what I had to do.. Seems like Gigabyte did not test the Bios update to well. >"Dan D" <dd4st DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message >news:1e017d66.0312151910.22826ac3@posting.google.com... >> Hi all >> >> I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the >> following: >> >> 8KNXP motherboard >> 2x512M HyperX memory >> Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE >> Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE >> SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) >> AIW PRO 9600 >> DVD +-RW >> DVD ROM >> Floppy >> >> When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything >> worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V >> to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting >> too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the >> FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI >> verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios >> settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no >> avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was >> try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard >> disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I >> can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am >> perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? >> >> Thanks >> Dan D ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 18 Dec 2003 18:29:40 -0800, dd4st.RemoveThis@aol.com (Dan D) wrote: >Yeah, but I want to use the UltraATA133 on GigaRAID. By the way, I am >able to boot just fine by transferring the drive to the regular IDE >controller. Evidently, the difference is in how it handles the ITE. >Also, I noticed that the boot order option in bios changes from FB to >FE. In FE, the order says "SCSI-0 : IT8212" vs "ITE Raid >Controller" in FB. I have been e-mailing Gigabyte support. First >they sent me bios f9a which had the same problem. Also, I believe >this was for the Rev 1 board even though the tech insisted it was for >Rev 2. Next the recommended I do a recovery operation on Win XP. I >didn't even try this last option because it just doesn't make sense >given that the problem occurs before Win XP even begins to load. I >guess I will play around with the RAID/ITE settings and see if I get >something to work. > >Dan D Please let me know when you do, Gigabyte has not replied to my e-mails yet. >"Gethsemane" <gethzemanes(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<FIWDb.22099$5F2.5202@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>... >> simply answer use the back up bios to revert to the older bios image. >> >> G >> >> "Dan D" <dd4st.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message >> news:1e017d66.0312151910.22826ac3@posting.google.com... >> > Hi all >> > >> > I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the >> > following: >> > >> > 8KNXP motherboard >> > 2x512M HyperX memory >> > Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE >> > Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE >> > SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) >> > AIW PRO 9600 >> > DVD +-RW >> > DVD ROM >> > Floppy >> > >> > When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything >> > worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V >> > to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting >> > too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the >> > FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI >> > verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios >> > settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no >> > avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was >> > try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard >> > disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I >> > can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am >> > perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? >> > >> > Thanks >> > Dan D<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 3:49 am Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Woger wrote: > On 18 Dec 2003 18:29:40 -0800, dd4st.DeleteThis@aol.com (Dan D) wrote: > > >>Yeah, but I want to use the UltraATA133 on GigaRAID. By the way, I am >>able to boot just fine by transferring the drive to the regular IDE >>controller. Evidently, the difference is in how it handles the ITE. >>Also, I noticed that the boot order option in bios changes from FB to >>FE. In FE, the order says "SCSI-0 : IT8212" vs "ITE Raid >>Controller" in FB. I have been e-mailing Gigabyte support. First >>they sent me bios f9a which had the same problem. Also, I believe >>this was for the Rev 1 board even though the tech insisted it was for >>Rev 2. Next the recommended I do a recovery operation on Win XP. I I have seen similar problem when moving a drive from one computer brand to another one. Basically the problem was that the different BIOSes were using different Logical CHS calculations. It seems the boot record uses data based on this calculation to locate the NTLDR file. So, I'd be guessing that the newer BIOS uses different logical CHS calculations and that you would need to repair the BOOT record to satisfy the new BIOS. A few searches of MS support pages will turn up a procedure(s) to repair the boot record. J >>didn't even try this last option because it just doesn't make sense >>given that the problem occurs before Win XP even begins to load. I >>guess I will play around with the RAID/ITE settings and see if I get >>something to work. >> >>Dan D > > > > > > Please let me know when you do, Gigabyte has not replied to my e-mails yet. > > > >>"Gethsemane" <gethzemanes(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<FIWDb.22099$5F2.5202@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>... >> >>>simply answer use the back up bios to revert to the older bios image. >>> >>>G >>> >>>"Dan D" <dd4st.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:1e017d66.0312151910.22826ac3@posting.google.com... >>> >>>>Hi all >>>> >>>>I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the >>>>following: >>>> >>>>8KNXP motherboard >>>>2x512M HyperX memory >>>>Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE >>>>Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE >>>>SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) >>>>AIW PRO 9600 >>>>DVD +-RW >>>>DVD ROM >>>>Floppy >>>> >>>>When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything >>>>worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V >>>>to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting >>>>too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the >>>>FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI >>>>verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios >>>>settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no >>>>avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was >>>>try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard >>>>disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I >>>>can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am >>>>perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>>Dan D > ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:49:52 GMT, Jerome <jerome.RemoveThis@home.rte> wrote: > > >Woger wrote: >> On 18 Dec 2003 18:29:40 -0800, dd4st.RemoveThis@aol.com (Dan D) wrote: >> >> >>>Yeah, but I want to use the UltraATA133 on GigaRAID. By the way, I am >>>able to boot just fine by transferring the drive to the regular IDE >>>controller. Evidently, the difference is in how it handles the ITE. >>>Also, I noticed that the boot order option in bios changes from FB to >>>FE. In FE, the order says "SCSI-0 : IT8212" vs "ITE Raid >>>Controller" in FB. I have been e-mailing Gigabyte support. First >>>they sent me bios f9a which had the same problem. Also, I believe >>>this was for the Rev 1 board even though the tech insisted it was for >>>Rev 2. Next the recommended I do a recovery operation on Win XP. I > >I have seen similar problem when moving a drive from one computer brand >to another one. Basically the problem was that the different BIOSes >were using different Logical CHS calculations. It seems the boot record >uses data based on this calculation to locate the NTLDR file. So, I'd >be guessing that the newer BIOS uses different logical CHS calculations >and that you would need to repair the BOOT record to satisfy the new >BIOS. A few searches of MS support pages will turn up a procedure(s) to >repair the boot record. > >J I have the same problem with the new F5 Bios for my GA-8I875 Ultra, basically the same board I am using a dual boot Win98se/XP With the New Bios its reports no active boot partition found, and I am running FAT32.. Dan have you had a reply and fix back from Gigabyte yet, I have not heard from them for about 3 weeks now.. >>>didn't even try this last option because it just doesn't make sense >>>given that the problem occurs before Win XP even begins to load. I >>>guess I will play around with the RAID/ITE settings and see if I get >>>something to work. >>> >>>Dan D >> >> >> >> >> >> Please let me know when you do, Gigabyte has not replied to my e-mails yet. >> >> >> >>>"Gethsemane" <gethzemanes(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<FIWDb.22099$5F2.5202@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>... >>> >>>>simply answer use the back up bios to revert to the older bios image. >>>> >>>>G >>>> >>>>"Dan D" <dd4st.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message >>>>news:1e017d66.0312151910.22826ac3@posting.google.com... >>>> >>>>>Hi all >>>>> >>>>>I have a problem I have not seen addressed yet. My setup is the >>>>>following: >>>>> >>>>>8KNXP motherboard >>>>>2x512M HyperX memory >>>>>Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 120G boot drive on Gigaraid as IDE >>>>>Maxtor 7200rpm UltraATA133 160G spare drive on Gigaraid as IDE >>>>>SCSI-1 Card (for older ZIP) >>>>>AIW PRO 9600 >>>>>DVD +-RW >>>>>DVD ROM >>>>>Floppy >>>>> >>>>>When I first built the system with the default FB bios, everything >>>>>worked fine from day 1. I even set the DIMM voltage higher by +0.1V >>>>>to match the Kingston spec, but it seemed to work at default setting >>>>>too. Now here is the strange part. When I try updating to either the >>>>>FD or FE bios, I get an "NTLDR is missing" message after DMI >>>>>verification with instructions to restart. I went in and checked Bios >>>>>settings, that I wasn't set on a RAID setting and tried again to no >>>>>avail. I did email Gigabyte but the only thing they told me to do was >>>>>try loading Optimized Defaults. They then asked me what kind of hard >>>>>disk I had, which I emailed back. They have yet to reply to this. I >>>>>can flash back to the FB bios and everything is fine again. I am >>>>>perplexed. Any body out there have a similar problem they solved? >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>>>Dan D >> >><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 8KNXP Rev 2 - Get NTLDR Missing on update to FD or FE Bios

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