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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:09 pm
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ASETNIOP Keyboard

Different name, same idea.
By simply transposing dfjkl; with the letters etniop, a keyboard
would be made more than forty percent more efficient, 80% more
efficient for the letters transposed. Less transverse motion and more
common letters on the home row will result in greater speed, comfort
and fewer mistakes.
By keeping the letters under the same fingers you will find that
etnio and p will be easy to learn, e and t are each more common than
dfjkl; combined in normal english text. Dfjkl and ; are harder to get
used to, you will be hitting them in their old locations.

"Use this test as an exercise, inhibit transverse motion" will
come out
"Usd fhks fdsf as aj dxdrcksd, kjhkbkf frajsvdrsd mlfklj" on the
qwerty keyboard. using text without dfjkl and ; makes it easy to detect
mistakes as they will show up as etnio or p in the practice.
Christopher Latham Showles originally put e and probably t on the
home row under the middle and index fingers of the left hand. This
caused a jamming of the key bars on his mechanical typewriter, making
for a machine unfriendly typist. This led to our modern version,
patented in 1868. Maybe its time to go back to the original original.

Stephen Kearney

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:53 pm
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oh heck, just use the DVORAK keyboard and be done with it all

Bob


Old Physics <skearney7.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
 > ASETNIOP Keyboard

 > Different name, same idea.
 > By simply transposing dfjkl; with the letters etniop, a keyboard
 > would be made more than forty percent more efficient, 80% more
 > efficient for the letters transposed. Less transverse motion and more
 > common letters on the home row will result in greater speed, comfort
 > and fewer mistakes.
 > By keeping the letters under the same fingers you will find that
 > etnio and p will be easy to learn, e and t are each more common than
 > dfjkl; combined in normal english text. Dfjkl and ; are harder to get
 > used to, you will be hitting them in their old locations.

 > "Use this test as an exercise, inhibit transverse motion" will
 > come out
 > "Usd fhks fdsf as aj dxdrcksd, kjhkbkf frajsvdrsd mlfklj" on the
 > qwerty keyboard. using text without dfjkl and ; makes it easy to detect
 > mistakes as they will show up as etnio or p in the practice.
 > Christopher Latham Showles originally put e and probably t on the
 > home row under the middle and index fingers of the left hand. This
 > caused a jamming of the key bars on his mechanical typewriter, making
 > for a machine unfriendly typist. This led to our modern version,
 > patented in 1868. Maybe its time to go back to the original original.

 > Stephen Kearney

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:52 am
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Access Systems <accessys RemoveThis @smart.net> wrote in message news:<10j172kiea3kpc5 RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>...
 > oh heck, just use the DVORAK keyboard and be done with it all
 >
 > Bob
 >
 >
 > Old Physics <skearney7 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
  > > ASETNIOP Keyboard
 >
  > > Different name, same idea.
  > > By simply transposing dfjkl; with the letters etniop, a keyboard
  > > would be made more than forty percent more efficient, 80% more
  > > efficient for the letters transposed. Less transverse motion and more
  > > common letters on the home row will result in greater speed, comfort
  > > and fewer mistakes.
  > > By keeping the letters under the same fingers you will find that
  > > etnio and p will be easy to learn, e and t are each more common than
  > > dfjkl; combined in normal english text. Dfjkl and ; are harder to get
  > > used to, you will be hitting them in their old locations.
 >
  > > "Use this test as an exercise, inhibit transverse motion" will
  > > come out
  > > "Usd fhks fdsf as aj dxdrcksd, kjhkbkf frajsvdrsd mlfklj" on the
  > > qwerty keyboard. using text without dfjkl and ; makes it easy to detect
  > > mistakes as they will show up as etnio or p in the practice.
  > > Christopher Latham Showles originally put e and probably t on the
  > > home row under the middle and index fingers of the left hand. This
  > > caused a jamming of the key bars on his mechanical typewriter, making
  > > for a machine unfriendly typist. This led to our modern version,
  > > patented in 1868. Maybe its time to go back to the original original.
 >
  > > Stephen Kearney
 >
 >
 > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
 > safety deserve Neither liberty nor safety", Benjamin Franklin
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The asetniop variation violates a basic rule of human engineering,
reversing controls. Switching the brake with the gas would be a
disaster. But since a keyboard error only results in a typo I think
it worth the risk.
Learning the Dvorak keyboard is complicated. At least with
asetniop you can learn with your eyes closed, just remember to inhibit
the impulse to move your finger for e,t,n,i,o or p. It may be
possible to mentally switch keyboards, kind of like using different
types of manual transmission. Most people can manage the upside down
numeric imput of a computer keyboard without causing difficulty with a
phone keyboard.
And there is the historical precident of putting the most common
letters on the home row, fulfilling Cristopher Shole's dream. Dvorak
has been around for decades and has its advocates and users. If
asetniop could get the same press, I think a lot of people would try
it and like it. It deserves a chance.

Fhd asdfjkl; varkafklj vkloafds a baskc ruod lt humaj djgkjddrkjg,
rdvdrskjg cljfrlos. Swkfchkjg fhd brakd wkfh fhd gas wluoe bd a
eksasfdr. Buf skjcd a kdyblare drrlr ljou rdsuofs kj a fy;o I fhkji
kf wlrfh fhd rksi.
Odarjkjg fhd Evlrai idyblare ks clm;lkcatde. Af ldasf wkfh
asdfjkl; ylu caj odarj wkfh ylur dyds colsde, jusf rdmdmbdr fl kjhkbkf
fhd km;uosd fl mlvd ylur tkjgdr tlr d,f,j,k,l,lr ;. Kf may bd
;lsskbod fl mdjfaooy swkfch idyblares, ikje lt okid uskjg ekttdrdjf
fy;ds lt majuao frajsmkssklj. Mlsf ;dl;od caj majagd fhd u;sked elwj
jumdrkc km;uf lt a clm;ufdr idyblare wkfhluf causkjg ekttkcuofy wkfh a
phljd idyblare.
Aje fhdrd ks fhd hksflrkcao ;rdckedjf lt ;uffkjg fhd mlsf clmmlj
odffdrs lj fhd hlmd rlw, tuotkookjg Crksfl;hdr Shlod's erdam. Evlrai
has bddj arluje tlr edcaeds aje has kfs aevlcafds aje usdrs. Kt
asdfjkl; cluoe gdf fhd samd ;rdss, I fhkji a olf lt ;dl;od wluoe fry
kf aje okid kf. Kf edsdrvds a chajcd.
K fhkji fhaf kt ylu gkvd kf a fry, tlr tktfddj mkjufds, ylu wkoo
tkje kf kjfdrdsfkjg aje elabod. Gkvd kf a tdw hlurds aje ylu mkghf bd
su;rksde hlw ;rltkckdjf ylu caj bdclmd. Kf elds faid cljcdjfrafklj.

Fhajkylu
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:03 pm
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skearney7.DeleteThis@earthlink.net (Old Physics) wrote in message news:<13fd3446.0408221509.774b6a7b.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>...
 > ASETNIOP Keyboard
 >
 > Different name, same idea.
 > By simply transposing dfjkl; with the letters etniop, a keyboard
 > would be made more than forty percent more efficient, 80% more
 > efficient for the letters transposed. Less transverse motion and more
 > common letters on the home row will result in greater speed, comfort
 > and fewer mistakes.
 > By keeping the letters under the same fingers you will find that
 > etnio and p will be easy to learn, e and t are each more common than
 > dfjkl; combined in normal english text. Dfjkl and ; are harder to get
 > used to, you will be hitting them in their old locations.
 >
By skm;oy frajs;lskjg etniop wkfh fhd odffdrs dfjkl;, a idyblare
wluoe bd maed mlrd fhaj tlrfy ;drcdjf mlrd dttkckdjf, 80% mlrd
dttkckdjf tlr fhd ldffdrs frajs;lsde. Odss frajsvdrsd mlfklj aje mlrd
clmmlj odffdrs lj fhd hlmd rlw wkoo rdsuof kj grdafdr spdde, clmtlrf
aje tdwdr mksfaids.
By idd;kjg fhd odffdrs ujedr fhd samd tkjgdrs ylu wkoo tkje fhaf
dfjkl aje ; wkoo bd dasy fl odarj, d aje f ard dach mlrd clmmlj fhaj
etniop clmbkjde kj jlrmao djglksh fdxf. Etnio aje p ard haredr fl gdf
jsde fl, ylu wkoo bd hkffkng fhdm kj fhdkr loe olcafkljs.

Try typing this sentence in asetniop, as seen below:
Fry fy;kjg fhks sdjfdjcd kj asdfjkl;, as sddj bdolw:<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:25 pm
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skearney7 RemoveThis @earthlink.net (Old Physics) wrote in message news:<13fd3446.0408221509.774b6a7b RemoveThis @posting.google.com>...
 > ASETNIOP Keyboard
 >
 > Different name, same idea.
 > By simply transposing dfjkl; with the letters etniop, a keyboard
 > would be made more than forty percent more efficient, 80% more
 > efficient for the letters transposed. Less transverse motion and more
 > common letters on the home row will result in greater speed, comfort
 > and fewer mistakes.
 > By keeping the letters under the same fingers you will find that
 > etnio and p will be easy to learn, e and t are each more common than
 > dfjkl; combined in normal english text. Dfjkl and ; are harder to get
 > used to, you will be hitting them in their old locations.
 >
 > "Use this test as an exercise, inhibit transverse motion" will
 > come out
 > "Usd fhks fdsf as aj dxdrcksd, kjhkbkf frajsvdrsd mlfklj" on the
 > qwerty keyboard. using text without dfjkl and ; makes it easy to detect
 > mistakes as they will show up as etnio or p in the practice.
 > Christopher Latham Showles originally put e and probably t on the
 > home row under the middle and index fingers of the left hand. This
 > caused a jamming of the key bars on his mechanical typewriter, making
 > for a machine unfriendly typist. This led to our modern version,
 > patented in 1868. Maybe its time to go back to the original original.
 >
 > Stephen Kearney

Here are some exercises to evaluate switching asetniop to qwerty.
Hdrd ard slmd dxdrcksds fl dvaluafd swkfchkjg asdfjkl; fl qwdrfy.

Abatement abbot abbreviation abhorrent abnegate abominate abortive
about above abrasion abreast abrupt abscess absence absorption
spectrum abstain abstraction abuse abutment acacia Abyssinian
acanthus accent accentuate acceptance accession accessory accompany
account executive

Abafdmdjf abblf abbrdvkafklj abhlrrdjf abnegafd ablmkjafd ablrfkvd
abluf ablvd abrasklj abrdasf abru;f abscdss absdjcd abslr;fklj
s;dcfrum absfakj absfracfklj abusd abufmdjf acacka abysskjkaj
acajfhus accdjf accdjfuafd accd;fajcd accdssklj accdsslry acclm;ajy
acclujf dxdcufkvd

Christmas is over and business is business
Chrksfmas ks lvdr aje buskjdss ks buskjdss

Oh why do you gaze my dear and muse on that misty sky
Lh why dl ylu gazd my edar aje musd lj fhaf mksfy siy

The rich man with his motor car, the country or the town estate
Fhd rkch maj wkfh hks mlflr car, fhd clujfry lr fhd flwj dsfafd

A teacher moves eternity. He too serves a certain purpose, who cheers
A fdachdr mlvds dfdrjkfy. Hd fll sdrvds a cdrfakj ;ur;lsd, whl chddrs

How short was your sentence, can have two meanings. Writing is not
the printer's art. The heart in poetry is brevity. What we want
versus what we get are two separate things. What goes up must come to
rest in the air, in orbit or on the earth.

Hlw shlrf was ylur sdjfdjcd, caj havd fwl mdajkjgs. Wrkfkjg ks jlf
fhd ;rkjfdr's arf. Fhd hdarf ij ;ldfry ks brdvkfy. Whaf wd wajf
vdrsus whaf wd gdf ard fwl sd;arafd fhkjgs. Whaf glds u; musf clmd fl
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:02 pm
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  > > ASETNIOP Keyboard
  > >
  > > Different name, same idea.
  > > By simply transposing dfjkl; with the letters etniop, a keyboard
  > > would be made more than forty percent more efficient, 80% more
  > > efficient for the letters transposed. Less transverse motion and more
  > > common letters on the home row will result in greater speed, comfort
  > > and fewer mistakes.
  > > By keeping the letters under the same fingers you will find that
  > > etnio and p will be easy to learn, e and t are each more common than
  > > dfjkl; combined in normal english text. Dfjkl and ; are harder to get
  > > used to, you will be hitting them in their old locations.
  > >
 > By skm;oy frajs;lskjg etniop wkfh fhd odffdrs dfjkl;, a idyblare
 > wluoe bd maed mlrd fhaj tlrfy ;drcdjf mlrd dttkckdjf, 80% mlrd
 > dttkckdjf tlr fhd ldffdrs frajs;lsde. Odss frajsvdrsd mlfklj aje mlrd
 > clmmlj odffdrs lj fhd hlmd rlw wkoo rdsuof kj grdafdr spdde, clmtlrf
 > aje tdwdr mksfaids.
 > By idd;kjg fhd odffdrs ujedr fhd samd tkjgdrs ylu wkoo tkje fhaf
 > dfjkl aje ; wkoo bd dasy fl odarj, d aje f ard dach mlrd clmmlj fhaj
 > etniop clmbkjde kj jlrmao djglksh fdxf. Etnio aje p ard haredr fl gdf
 > jsde fl, ylu wkoo bd hkffkng fhdm kj fhdkr loe olcafkljs.
 >
 > Try typing this sentence in asetniop, as seen below:
 > Fry fy;kjg fhks sdjfdjcd kj asdfjkl;, as sddj bdolw:


Imagine home row as asetghniop. Use this text as a typing
exercise. When you see e, t, n, i, o, or p, inhibit transverse
motion. Press what you are touching. The output appears thus:
Kmagkjd hlmd rlw as asdfghjkl;. Usd fhks fdxf as a fy;kjg
dxdrcksd. Whdj you sdd d, f, j, k, l, lr ;, kjhkbkf frajsvdrsd
mlfklj. :rdss whaf ylu ard fluchkjg. Fhd luf;uf a;;dars fhusP

This rearrangement represents the etniop compromise. No other
input variation has a higher g/p (gain/pain) ratio. Switching to
etniop in the home row may seem to transgress basic human engineering
precepts, but this test run may convince you that etniop is easy to
master, at a ten wpm rate, in about thirty minutes.
Tryout your own average text.

Fhks rdarrajgdmdjf rd;rdsdjfs fhd dfjkl; clm;rlmkse. Jl lfhdr
kj;uf varkafklj has a hkghdr g/; (gakj/;akj) rafkl. Swkfchkjg fl
dfjkl; kj fhd hlmd rlw may sddm fl frajsgrdss baskc humaj djgkjddrkjg
;rdcd;fs, buf fhks fdsf ruj may cljvkjcd ylu fhaf dfjkl; ks dasy fl
masfdr, af a fdj w;m rafd, kj abluf fhkrfy mkjufds.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:28 am
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Access Systems <accessys DeleteThis @smart.net> wrote in message news:<10j172kiea3kpc5 DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>...
 > oh heck, just use the DVORAK keyboard and be done with it all
 >
 > Bob

This is an attempt to show that using asetniop might not cause a
nervous system missconnection with the ability to return to using
qwerty.
This is a unique attribute of asetniop. Try to remember not to move
when pressing the characters that represent etniop on the home row.
Concentrate, restrain the urge to move anything, pause then press. It
seems near to instinctive, quite a surprise.
Try it. You might discover that it is easy, maybe even neat.

Fhks ks aj affdm;f fl shlw fhaf uskjg asdfjkl; mkghf jlf causd a
jdrvlus sysfdm mksscljjdcfklj wkfh fhd abklkfy fl rdfurj fl uskjg
qwdrfy. Fhks ks a ujkqud affrkbufd lf asdfjkl;. Fry fl rdmdmbdr jlf
fl mlvd whdj ;rdsskjg fhd characfdrs fhaf rd;rdsdjf dfjkl; lj fhd hlmd
rlw. Cljcdjfrafd, rdsfrakj fhd urgd fl mlvd ajyfhkjg, ;ausd thdj
;rdss. Kf sddms jdar fl kjsfkjcfkvd, qukfd a sur;rksd.
Fry kf. Ylu mkghf dksclvdr fhaf kf ks dasy, maybd dvdj jdaf.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 9:35 pm
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Old Physics <skearney7.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
 > Access Systems <accessys.DeleteThis@smart.net> wrote in message news:<10j172kiea3kpc5.DeleteThis@corp.supernews.com>...
  >> oh heck, just use the DVORAK keyboard and be done with it all
  >>
 > This is an attempt to show that using asetniop might not cause a
 > nervous system missconnection with the ability to return to using
 > qwerty.

been using Dvorak for over 20 years never had any desire to regress

 > This is a unique attribute of asetniop. Try to remember not to move
 > when pressing the characters that represent etniop on the home row.
 > Concentrate, restrain the urge to move anything, pause then press. It
 > seems near to instinctive, quite a surprise.
 > Try it. You might discover that it is easy, maybe even neat.

more trouble than' it's worth, try Dvorak it is intuitive

Bob

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:54 pm
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ENOUGH with the ASETNIOP spam,....

make a friggin website, a simple translation driver, a keyboard overlay for
every common keyboard, and charge money for it all so you can make a
fortune...

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P.S. --> now that I have that out of my system, I'll be setting all other
posts containing ASETNIOP to auto-ignore... thank you for the informative
article and wonderful exercises.. have a nice day...
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:13 am
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Access Systems <accessys DeleteThis @smart.net> wrote in message news:<10jk2nlr48pc4b5 DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>...
 > Old Physics <skearney7 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
  > > Access Systems <accessys DeleteThis @smart.net> wrote in message news:<10j172kiea3kpc5 DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>...
   > >> oh heck, just use the DVORAK keyboard and be done with it all
   > >>
  > > This is an attempt to show that using asetniop might not cause a
  > > nervous system missconnection with the ability to return to using
  > > qwerty.
 >
 > been using Dvorak for over 20 years never had any desire to regress
 >
  > > This is a unique attribute of asetniop. Try to remember not to move
  > > when pressing the characters that represent etniop on the home row.
  > > Concentrate, restrain the urge to move anything, pause then press. It
  > > seems near to instinctive, quite a surprise.
  > > Try it. You might discover that it is easy, maybe even neat.
 >
 > more trouble than' it's worth, try Dvorak it is intuitive
 >
 > Bob

Wow! the real thing. I have read that some users abandon Dvorak
because it interferes with using Qwerty, when they don't have their
own keyboard handy, or they are unable to realize its advantages.
How long did it take you to master the Dvorak keyboard? Can you
still touch type with a Qwerty keyboard? How much typing do you do
and how fast? Is there a users group? Do you have any statistics on
how many people use it, or more specifically do you personally know
other users?

More trouble than it's worth is probably the excuse of the vast
majority of Dvorak non users. It is Qwerty users I want to convert,
you have found the one true practical "faith".

Extreme thanks for your post.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:05 pm
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Old Physics <skearney7.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
 > Access Systems <accessys.RemoveThis@smart.net> wrote in message news:<10jk2nlr48pc4b5.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>...
  >> Old Physics <skearney7.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
   >> > Access Systems <accessys.RemoveThis@smart.net> wrote in message news:<10j172kiea3kpc5.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>...
   >> >> oh heck, just use the DVORAK keyboard and be done with it all

  >> been using Dvorak for over 20 years never had any desire to regress
  >>
  >> more trouble than' it's worth, try Dvorak it is intuitive

 > Wow! the real thing. I have read that some users abandon Dvorak
 > because it interferes with using Qwerty, when they don't have their
 > own keyboard handy, or they are unable to realize its advantages.

have yet to meet any of them

 > How long did it take you to master the Dvorak keyboard? Can you

less than 2 weeks to be comfortable (I had touch typed Qwerty for over 20
years at that point) about 2 months to be back to my old Qwerty speed and
in less than 6 months I was at least 10wpm faster.

 > still touch type with a Qwerty keyboard?

none if at all possible, don't even try to touch type Qwerty

 > How much typing do you do

couple hours a day at least

 > and how fast?

real world use, not testing, about 65wpm

 > Is there a users group?

yes would have to get the addy,

 > Do you have any statistics on
 > how many people use it, or

it is the second most popular keyboard in the world, but it is still less
than 1% I'm sure

 > more specifically do you personally know
 > other users?

I know a couple of other folks who use it

 > More trouble than it's worth is probably the excuse of the vast
 > majority of Dvorak non users. It is Qwerty users I want to convert,

probably is the reason, but if someone is gonna convert might as well go
all the way.

 > you have found the one true practical "faith".

AMEN!

 > Extreme thanks for your post.

no problem, always willing to spread the "gospel"

Bob

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:09 am
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"Bx.C" <e_me_there_or_here.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<kst_c.68834$N11.23468@bignews5.bellsouth.net>...
 > ENOUGH with the ASETNIOP spam,....
 >
 > make a friggin website, a simple translation driver, a keyboard overlay for
 > every common keyboard, and charge money for it all so you can make a
 > fortune...

How did you get your p.s. to dissappear from the post form?
Thats: "maid a trkggkj wdbskfd,..."
I fretted over answering your post since to you it would
constitute more spam and you've got your 'puter set to ignore.
Translation driver and overlay. How about a replace macro and
just remember ed tf nj ik ol or de ft jn ki lo. De feet jin kilo.
Who's gonna pay for an overlay when the transpositions are so easy to
remember? That sound you hear is asetniflop.
My only hope is that, being free, and simple to try, it will
become the new ootsfrey oopslay secrete language. There are the
Dvorak and the fitaly keyboards, but only transposing the minimum
number of letters allows continued proficiency on a qwerty keyboard.

DJLUGH wkfh fhd ASDFJKL: s;am,....

maid a frkggkj wdbskfd, a skm;od frajsoafklj erkvdr, a idy blare
lvdroay tlr dvdry clmmlj idyblare, aje chargd mljdy tlr kf aoo sl ylu
caj maid a tlrfujd...
Fhafsp "make a frkggkj wdbsite,..."
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cljsfkfufd mlrd s;am aje ylu'vd glf ylur 'pufdr sdf fl kgjlrd.
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nusf rdmdmbdr eisd tisf nisj iisk oisl and pis;. Whl's
gljja ;ay tlr aj lvdroay whdj fhd frajs;lskfkljs ard sl dasy fl
rdmdmbdr?. Fhaf sluje ylu hdar is asdfjktol;.
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jumbdr lt odffdrs aoolws cljfkjude ;rltkckdjcy lj a qwdrfy idyblard.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:42 pm
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"Old Physics" <skearney7 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:13fd3446.0409052109.2928a092@posting.google.com...
 > "Bx.C" <e_me_there_or_here DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<kst_c.68834$N11.23468@bignews5.bellsouth.net>...
  > > ENOUGH with the ASETNIOP spam,....
  > >
  > > make a friggin website, a simple translation driver, a keyboard overlay
for
  > > every common keyboard, and charge money for it all so you can make a
  > > fortune...
 >
 > How did you get your p.s. to dissappear from the post form?
 > Thats: "maid a trkggkj wdbskfd,..."
 > I fretted over answering your post since to you it would
 > constitute more spam and you've got your 'puter set to ignore.
 > Translation driver and overlay. How about a replace macro and
 > just remember ed tf nj ik ol or de ft jn ki lo. De feet jin kilo.
 > Who's gonna pay for an overlay when the transpositions are so easy to
 > remember? That sound you hear is asetniflop.
 > My only hope is that, being free, and simple to try, it will
 > become the new ootsfrey oopslay secrete language. There are the
 > Dvorak and the fitaly keyboards, but only transposing the minimum
 > number of letters allows continued proficiency on a qwerty keyboard.
 >


Okay, so I lied about the auto-ignore. Honestly, though, you do have enough
here to start a website, and who knows what else.

My signature and my P.S. disappeared because most newsreaders will chop a
post at a line containing a double hyphen. I believe it's one of those
undoc'd standards. Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't follow it because it's
undoc'd, so it doesn't chop for me through Outlook Express.

Who knows, maybe someday we WILL be using ASETNIOP keyboards. I wish you
the best of luck. My apologies for being so ugly earlier.

--
Brent

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:45 pm
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 >
 > Okay, so I lied about the auto-ignore. Honestly, though, you do have enough
 > here to start a website, and who knows what else.

My aim was to present something so simple and obvious that it
would spread by word of mouth or text of email and not require a hit
of website. I originally believed that lifting six keys of the home
row was the easiest to learn. There is a tendency toward that
consistancy of change. Now I think that holding the line to four key
pairs, dfjk to etni, might be more acceptable. It increases the
frequency of home row letters, in normal text, from 32% to 53%, a 60%
gain. That same high frequency makes it fairly easy to master and it
dosn't seem to interfere with proficiency on the standard qwerty
keyboard.
I hope that you will be tempted to try it.

My akm was fo prdsdjf somdfhkjg so skmpld aje obvkous fhaf kf
woule sprdad by wore ot moufh or fdxf of dmakl ane jof rdqukrd a hkf
ot wdbskfd. K orkgkjally bdlkdvde fhaf lktfkjg skx idys ot fhd homd
row was fhd daskdsf fo ldarj. Fhdrd ks a fdjedjcy foware fhaf
cojsksfajcy lt chajgd. Now K fhkji fhaf holekjg fhd lkjd fo tour idy
pakrs, dfjk to etni, mkghf bd mlrd accdpfabld. Kf kjcrdasds fhd
trdqudjcy ot homd row ldffdrs, kj jormal fdxf, trom 32% fo 53%, a 60%
gakj. Fhaf samd hkgh trdqudjcy maids kf takrly dasy fo masfdr aje kf
eosj'f sddm fo kjfdrtdrd wkfh protkckdjcy oj fhd sfajeare qwdrfy
idyboare.
K hopd fhaf you wkll bd fdmpfde fl fry kf.
 >
 > My signature and my P.S. disappeared because most newsreaders will chop a
 > post at a line containing a double hyphen. I believe it's one of those
 > undoc'd standards. Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't follow it because it's
 > undoc'd, so it doesn't chop for me through Outlook Express.
 >
 > Who knows, maybe someday we WILL be using ASETNIOP keyboards. I wish you
 > the best of luck. My apologies for being so ugly earlier.

No apology necessary, but it is appreciated. The Dvorak dosn't
seem to have made it to 1% share in the sixty years that it has been
around. It takes a pretty big leap of faith. With asetnil you can
get your pinkies wet without taking the plunge. I hope that a just
for fun foray will open the possibility of a practical preference.
And it looks like there won't be anymore asetniop spam.

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sddm fo havd maed kf fo 1% shard kj fhd skxfy ydars fhaf kf has bddj
arouje. Kf faids a prdffy bkg ldap lf takfh. Wkfh asdfjkl you caj
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tor tuj toray wkll opdj fhd posskbklkfy ot a pracfkcal prdtdrdjcd.
Aje kf loois lkid fhdrd woj'f bd ajymord asdfjkop spam.

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