AZERTY TO QERTY KEYBOARD CONVERSION

De wrote:
 > If I buy a Microsoft Internet Pro keyboard that is in AZERTY format -
 > can I simple swap around the letters to make it quety and will DOS
 > and windows always recognise this keyboard as QWERTY or AZERTY?

Depends what you mean by "swap around the letters".

If you physically move the keys, then yeah, as far as I know that should
work, IF your keyboard layouts are set to QWERTY.

The way it all works is that the keyboard produces scancodes, based usually
on the location of the keys. Your operating system then takes the scancodes
and maps those to letters, numbers, and other keypresses, based on the
"keyboard layout".

 > I live in the UK and all my windows settings are set to UK in windows
 > 2000 Pro.

Then I think you'll be fine if you just physically swap the keys. Either
way I think you'll be able to use a combination of keyboard layouts and key
swapping to achieve what appears to be a QWERTY keyboard.

If you have any problems, come back here and ask us - we should be able to
help.

Ben
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WindsorFox[SS] wrote:
 > De wrote:
 >
  >> If I buy a Microsoft Internet Pro keyboard that is in AZERTY format
  >> - can I simple swap around the letters to make it quety and will DOS
  >> and windows always recognise this keyboard as QWERTY or AZERTY?
  >>
  >> I live in the UK and all my windows settings are set to UK in
  >> windows 2000 Pro.
  >>
  >>
 >
 >
 > WTF??? I have a M$ multi-media pro kaeyboard and it is the same
 > as every other keyboard I've ever used.

Does that also mean that just because I've never been to France it doesn't
exist?

 > This must be a British thing you are talking about?

French, I think.

 > I don't think you can change the keys on a keyboard.

You thought wrong - they assembled it, it can be disassembled.

 > I've never in my life seen or heard of a keyboard that has A and Z in
place
 > of Q and W.

Try: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22azerty+keyboard+layout%22" target="_blank">http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22azerty+keyboard+layout%22</a>

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Ben Pope wrote:


  >> WTF??? I have a M$ multi-media pro kaeyboard and it is the same
  >>as every other keyboard I've ever used.
 >
 >
 > Does that also mean that just because I've never been to France it doesn't
 > exist?

What an ignorant comparison, one has nothing to do with the other.

 >
 >
  >>This must be a British thing you are talking about?
 >
 >
 > French, I think.

France is not part of the UK which is why I said that.
 >
 >
  >> I don't think you can change the keys on a keyboard.
 >
 >
 > You thought wrong - they assembled it, it can be disassembled.


At least I attempt to think at times. If you pop a K off the keyboard
it doesn't make sense that puting a B in it's place would change what
shows on the screen, but then I've never tried different languages
in Windows. But your amazingly patient and helpful reply is so
appreciated.
 >
 >
  >>I've never in my life seen or heard of a keyboard that has A and Z in
 >
 > place
 >
  >>of Q and W.
 >
 >
<font color=purple> > Try: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22azerty+keyboard+layout%22</font" target="_blank">http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22azerty+keyboard+layout%22</font</a>>
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WindsorFox[SS] wrote:
 > Ben Pope wrote:
 >
  >> WindsorFox[SS] wrote:
  >>
   >>> WTF??? I have a M$ multi-media pro kaeyboard and it is the same
   >>> as every other keyboard I've ever used.
  >>
  >> Does that also mean that just because I've never been to France it
  >> doesn't exist?
 >
 > What an ignorant comparison, one has nothing to do with the other.

You're the ignorant one for not knowing anything about the Azerty keyboard
layout and not even bothering to type it onto google.

   >>> This must be a British thing you are talking about?
  >>
  >> French, I think.
 >
 > France is not part of the UK which is why I said that.


You suggested a French layout was "a British thing" because "France is not
part of the UK". That makes no sense.

   >>> I don't think you can change the keys on a keyboard.
  >>
  >> You thought wrong - they assembled it, it can be disassembled.
 >
 > At least I attempt to think at times. If you pop a K off the keyboard
 > it doesn't make sense that puting a B in it's place would change what
 > shows on the screen, but then I've never tried different languages
 > in Windows. But your amazingly patient and helpful reply is so
 > appreciated.


If the keyboard layout is set to "British" in the OS, then swapping the
Azerty Layout for the Qwerty layout should work. If you have the Azerty
layout on the keyboard, with the Azerty layout in the OS that would work
correctly, right? If you have a Qwerty keyboard layout with the Qwerty
layout set in the OS, that would correctly, right? So where's the issue?
Start thinking, stop trying to make me look stupid because I corrected you.
You're wrong, accept it.

Ben
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Ben Pope wrote:

 > You're the ignorant one for not knowing anything about the Azerty keyboard
 > layout and not even bothering to type it onto google.
 >

I guess all of us can't know EVERY thing there is to know about all
in the world. Once a troll, always a troll...


 >
 >
 > You suggested a French layout was "a British thing" because "France is not
 > part of the UK". That makes no sense.
 >

I suggested it was British because the OP distinctly pointed out he
was in the UK.


 >
 > If the keyboard layout is set to "British" in the OS, then swapping the
 > Azerty Layout for the Qwerty layout should work. If you have the Azerty
 > layout on the keyboard, with the Azerty layout in the OS that would work
 > correctly, right? If you have a Qwerty keyboard layout with the Qwerty
 > layout set in the OS, that would correctly, right? So where's the issue?
 > Start thinking, stop trying to make me look stupid because I corrected you.
 > You're wrong, accept it.
 >
 > Ben

I wasn't. You do perfectly well at looking like a troll all by
yourself though. Your original reply would have contained just as
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"WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfoxNO.DeleteThis@SPAMcox.net> wrote in
news:AfHRa.7881$zd4.900@lakeread02:

 > Ben Pope wrote:
 >
  >> You're the ignorant one for not knowing anything about the Azerty
  >> keyboard layout and not even bothering to type it onto google.
  >>
 >
 > I guess all of us can't know EVERY thing there is to know about all
 > in the world. Once a troll, always a troll...

I've been following this thread and must say that your defense -- for not
being ignorant, as Mr. Pope stated -- is weak. Your first post indicates
quite clearly your lack of knowledge concerning the subject matter, and
yet you had the gall to speak to the OP in a condescending tone, as if
*they* were the ignorant one. Mr. Pope was right on target with his
comments. If you're too lazy to educate yourself on a topic, before
attempting to speak as though you know something about it, you wind up
looking like a dope. When somebody calls you on your foolishness, as Mr.
Pope did, and you come back with attitude, but nothing of substance to
back up your position, you wind up looking even worse. You would do well
to learn from this experience.

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WindsorFox[SS] wrote:
 > Ben Pope wrote:
 >
  >> You're the ignorant one for not knowing anything about the Azerty
  >> keyboard layout and not even bothering to type it onto google.
  >>
 >
 > I guess all of us can't know EVERY thing there is to know about all
 > in the world. Once a troll, always a troll...

I don't expect you to know everything... merely to do some research before
answering a question. Or to not bother replying if you don;t know the
answer. You made a bad start with "WTF???"

  >> You suggested a French layout was "a British thing" because "France
  >> is not part of the UK". That makes no sense.
 >
 > I suggested it was British because the OP distinctly pointed out he
 > was in the UK.

And I'm from the UK... We use QWERTY, usually.

  >> If the keyboard layout is set to "British" in the OS, then swapping
  >> the Azerty Layout for the Qwerty layout should work. If you have
  >> the Azerty layout on the keyboard, with the Azerty layout in the OS
  >> that would work correctly, right? If you have a Qwerty keyboard
  >> layout with the Qwerty layout set in the OS, that would correctly,
  >> right? So where's the issue? Start thinking, stop trying to make me
  >> look stupid because I corrected you. You're wrong, accept it.
  >>
 > I wasn't. You do perfectly well at looking like a troll all by
 > yourself though. Your original reply would have contained just as
 > much information withough being snide.

This is your first post to this newsgroup, no?

I've made over 30, I believe... most of which are helping people, not
pointing out that I don't have a clue about their question. You decide
whether or not I'm a troll.

Again I ask you not to try to make me look stupid - it's backfiring on you.

Ben
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