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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:07 pm
Post subject: Acronis 11 on XP stops proper hibernate or stand by
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I just purchased Acronis 11 and after reading the manual- realized that this
is a very powerful program and before I install it on my newest Dell running
Vista which is now my main business computer, I decided to test it on an
older (2004) Dell running XP.
It installed OK but before trying to use the program, I tried to hibernate
the PC. Nothing happened - it sat there for hours. I then did a full
shutdown and that worked OK. I thought I'd sleep on the problem. This
morning I realized after the first required reboot to complete the
installation process- I didn't remove the installation disk - so perhaps
that was causing the system to not hibernate- so I removed the installation
disk- and tried again, no luck. I uninstalled the program, then reinstalled,
then tried again to hibernate, no luck.
The really weird thing is that as the UNinstallation process started- THEN-
the system decided to hibernate, which it did, I turned the system back on-
it was still showing the uninstallation process- I completed the uninstall.
Once Acronis is uninstalled, the hibernate process works just fine.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Acronis 11 on XP stops proper hibernate or stand by [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Joe" <abc.TakeThisOut@xyz.com> wrote in message news:0lUxj.4095$RQ3.46@trndny05...
>I just purchased Acronis 11 and after reading the manual- realized that
>this is a very powerful program and before I install it on my newest Dell
>running Vista which is now my main business computer, I decided to test it
>on an older (2004) Dell running XP.
>
> It installed OK but before trying to use the program, I tried to hibernate
> the PC. Nothing happened - it sat there for hours. I then did a full
> shutdown and that worked OK. I thought I'd sleep on the problem. This
> morning I realized after the first required reboot to complete the
> installation process- I didn't remove the installation disk - so perhaps
> that was causing the system to not hibernate- so I removed the
> installation disk- and tried again, no luck. I uninstalled the program,
> then reinstalled, then tried again to hibernate, no luck.
>
> The really weird thing is that as the UNinstallation process started-
> THEN- the system decided to hibernate, which it did, I turned the system
> back on- it was still showing the uninstallation process- I completed the
> uninstall. Once Acronis is uninstalled, the hibernate process works just
> fine.
>
> Comments appreciated.
Hibernate is bad as a general habit. Don't do it... Reboots are always
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Acronis 11 on XP stops proper hibernate or stand by [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Greg Cisko" <gcisko.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Joe" <abc.RemoveThis@xyz.com> wrote in message news:0lUxj.4095$RQ3.46@trndny05...
>>I just purchased Acronis 11 and after reading the manual- realized that
>>this is a very powerful program and before I install it on my newest Dell
>>running Vista which is now my main business computer, I decided to test it
>>on an older (2004) Dell running XP.
>>
>> It installed OK but before trying to use the program, I tried to
>> hibernate the PC. Nothing happened - it sat there for hours. I then did a
>> full shutdown and that worked OK. I thought I'd sleep on the problem.
>> This morning I realized after the first required reboot to complete the
>> installation process- I didn't remove the installation disk - so perhaps
>> that was causing the system to not hibernate- so I removed the
>> installation disk- and tried again, no luck. I uninstalled the program,
>> then reinstalled, then tried again to hibernate, no luck.
>>
>> The really weird thing is that as the UNinstallation process started-
>> THEN- the system decided to hibernate, which it did, I turned the system
>> back on- it was still showing the uninstallation process- I completed the
>> uninstall. Once Acronis is uninstalled, the hibernate process works just
>> fine.
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>
> Hibernate is bad as a general habit. Don't do it... Reboots are always
> better.
You may be right- and let's just assume that you are right- nonetheless, the
fact that the program interferes with the OS like this makes it
untrustworthy.
Also, just to be sure that the problem wasn't due to a bug in the boxed
version, I downloaded the latest trial version and see the same problem.
Nobody has seen this problem?
Joe >> Stay informed about: Acronis 11 on XP stops proper hibernate or stand by |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:56 am
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Joe <abc.RemoveThis@xyz.com> wrote:
> I just purchased Acronis 11 and after reading the manual- realized
> that this is a very powerful program and before I install it on my
> newest Dell running Vista which is now my main business computer, I
> decided to test it on an older (2004) Dell running XP.
>
> It installed OK but before trying to use the program, I tried to
> hibernate the PC. Nothing happened - it sat there for hours. I then
> did a full shutdown and that worked OK. I thought I'd sleep on the
> problem. This morning I realized after the first required reboot to
> complete the installation process- I didn't remove the installation
> disk - so perhaps that was causing the system to not hibernate- so I
> removed the installation disk- and tried again, no luck. I
> uninstalled the program, then reinstalled, then tried again to
> hibernate, no luck.
> The really weird thing is that as the UNinstallation process started-
> THEN- the system decided to hibernate, which it did, I turned the
> system back on- it was still showing the uninstallation process- I
> completed the uninstall. Once Acronis is uninstalled, the hibernate
> process works just fine.
> Comments appreciated.
Just some quirk of that particular Dell.
I dont get that effect on the systems I have installed TI 11 on. >> Stay informed about: Acronis 11 on XP stops proper hibernate or stand by |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:56 am
Post subject: Re: Acronis 11 on XP stops proper hibernate or stand by [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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When you install Acronis, it has a lot of bells and whistles to offer. Many
of these require running services on your system. At least four of them. If
you don't use the bells and whistles, you can block their startup with no
problems. It is likely that one of these is keeping your system from
hibernating. You can disable them one at a time, and test for yourself.
I realize there are differences of opinion on hibernation, but it sure
doesn't belong inside an install or uninstall procedure.
Your assumption that interfering with hibernation makes the program or OS
somehow unreliable is unfounded. Most systems use specific tweaks to
implement hibernation, and it is often tacked onto the OS. In any event,
failing to hibernate does not make a system unstable or unreliable.
Relax a bit and work with it and see if Acronis can't help you out. By the
way they have very active and very helpful forums on their website.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Joe <abc RemoveThis @xyz.com> wrote:
>> I just purchased Acronis 11 and after reading the manual- realized
>> that this is a very powerful program and before I install it on my
>> newest Dell running Vista which is now my main business computer, I
>> decided to test it on an older (2004) Dell running XP.
>>
>> It installed OK but before trying to use the program, I tried to
>> hibernate the PC. Nothing happened - it sat there for hours. I then
>> did a full shutdown and that worked OK. I thought I'd sleep on the
>> problem. This morning I realized after the first required reboot to
>> complete the installation process- I didn't remove the installation
>> disk - so perhaps that was causing the system to not hibernate- so I
>> removed the installation disk- and tried again, no luck. I
>> uninstalled the program, then reinstalled, then tried again to
>> hibernate, no luck.
>> The really weird thing is that as the UNinstallation process started-
>> THEN- the system decided to hibernate, which it did, I turned the
>> system back on- it was still showing the uninstallation process- I
>> completed the uninstall. Once Acronis is uninstalled, the hibernate
>> process works just fine.
>> Comments appreciated.
>
> Just some quirk of that particular Dell.
>
> I dont get that effect on the systems I have installed TI 11 on.
> >> Stay informed about: Acronis 11 on XP stops proper hibernate or stand by |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:56 am
Post subject: Re: Acronis 11 on XP stops proper hibernate or stand by [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Just a bit further. The various versions of Acronis are good matches to
their contemporary systems, but poor matches to systems outside that range.
Using V11 on an older system practically guarantees some rough edges. It is
set up for the newer hardware. The same with trying to use V8 on a new Vista
system.
Again, good luck!
"Wandering" <amore.dei DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> When you install Acronis, it has a lot of bells and whistles to offer.
> Many
> of these require running services on your system. At least four of them.
> If
> you don't use the bells and whistles, you can block their startup with no
> problems. It is likely that one of these is keeping your system from
> hibernating. You can disable them one at a time, and test for yourself.
>
> I realize there are differences of opinion on hibernation, but it sure
> doesn't belong inside an install or uninstall procedure.
>
> Your assumption that interfering with hibernation makes the program or OS
> somehow unreliable is unfounded. Most systems use specific tweaks to
> implement hibernation, and it is often tacked onto the OS. In any event,
> failing to hibernate does not make a system unstable or unreliable.
>
> Relax a bit and work with it and see if Acronis can't help you out. By
> the
> way they have very active and very helpful forums on their website.
>
>
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:62r2rfF24dg8hU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Joe <abc DeleteThis @xyz.com> wrote:
>>> I just purchased Acronis 11 and after reading the manual- realized
>>> that this is a very powerful program and before I install it on my
>>> newest Dell running Vista which is now my main business computer, I
>>> decided to test it on an older (2004) Dell running XP.
>>>
>>> It installed OK but before trying to use the program, I tried to
>>> hibernate the PC. Nothing happened - it sat there for hours. I then
>>> did a full shutdown and that worked OK. I thought I'd sleep on the
>>> problem. This morning I realized after the first required reboot to
>>> complete the installation process- I didn't remove the installation
>>> disk - so perhaps that was causing the system to not hibernate- so I
>>> removed the installation disk- and tried again, no luck. I
>>> uninstalled the program, then reinstalled, then tried again to
>>> hibernate, no luck.
>>> The really weird thing is that as the UNinstallation process started-
>>> THEN- the system decided to hibernate, which it did, I turned the
>>> system back on- it was still showing the uninstallation process- I
>>> completed the uninstall. Once Acronis is uninstalled, the hibernate
>>> process works just fine.
>>> Comments appreciated.
>>
>> Just some quirk of that particular Dell.
>>
>> I dont get that effect on the systems I have installed TI 11 on.
>>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:57 am
Post subject: Re: Acronis 11 on XP stops proper hibernate or stand by [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Greg Cisko <gcisko.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Joe" <abc.RemoveThis@xyz.com> wrote in message
> news:0lUxj.4095$RQ3.46@trndny05...
>> I just purchased Acronis 11 and after reading the manual- realized
>> that this is a very powerful program and before I install it on my
>> newest Dell running Vista which is now my main business computer, I
>> decided to test it on an older (2004) Dell running XP.
>>
>> It installed OK but before trying to use the program, I tried to
>> hibernate the PC. Nothing happened - it sat there for hours. I then
>> did a full shutdown and that worked OK. I thought I'd sleep on the
>> problem. This morning I realized after the first required reboot to
>> complete the installation process- I didn't remove the installation
>> disk - so perhaps that was causing the system to not hibernate- so I
>> removed the installation disk- and tried again, no luck. I
>> uninstalled the program, then reinstalled, then tried again to
>> hibernate, no luck. The really weird thing is that as the UNinstallation process started-
>> THEN- the system decided to hibernate, which it did, I turned the
>> system back on- it was still showing the uninstallation process- I
>> completed the uninstall. Once Acronis is uninstalled, the hibernate
>> process works just fine.
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>
> Hibernate is bad as a general habit.
Wrong.
> Don't do it... Reboots are always better.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:57 am
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:58 am
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Joe <abc DeleteThis @xyz.com> wrote:
> "Greg Cisko" <gcisko DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Joe" <abc DeleteThis @xyz.com> wrote in message
>> news:0lUxj.4095$RQ3.46@trndny05...
>>> I just purchased Acronis 11 and after reading the manual- realized
>>> that this is a very powerful program and before I install it on my
>>> newest Dell running Vista which is now my main business computer, I
>>> decided to test it on an older (2004) Dell running XP.
>>>
>>> It installed OK but before trying to use the program, I tried to
>>> hibernate the PC. Nothing happened - it sat there for hours. I then
>>> did a full shutdown and that worked OK. I thought I'd sleep on the
>>> problem. This morning I realized after the first required reboot to
>>> complete the installation process- I didn't remove the installation
>>> disk - so perhaps that was causing the system to not hibernate- so
>>> I removed the installation disk- and tried again, no luck. I
>>> uninstalled the program, then reinstalled, then tried again to
>>> hibernate, no luck. The really weird thing is that as the UNinstallation process
>>> started- THEN- the system decided to hibernate, which it did, I
>>> turned the system back on- it was still showing the uninstallation
>>> process- I completed the uninstall. Once Acronis is uninstalled,
>>> the hibernate process works just fine.
>>>
>>> Comments appreciated.
>>
>> Hibernate is bad as a general habit. Don't do it... Reboots are
>> always better.
>
>
> You may be right- and let's just assume that you are right-
> nonetheless, the fact that the program interferes with the OS like
> this makes it untrustworthy.
>
> Also, just to be sure that the problem wasn't due to a bug in the
> boxed version, I downloaded the latest trial version and see the same
> problem.
> Nobody has seen this problem?
Nope, must be some quirk of that particular Dell.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:51 pm
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Wandering <amore.dei RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Just a bit further. The various versions of Acronis are good matches to their contemporary systems, but poor matches
> to systems outside that range. Using V11 on an older system practically guarantees some rough edges.
Pig ignorant drivel.
> It is set up for the newer hardware.
Wrong, as always.
> The same with trying to use V8 on a new Vista system.
Wrong, as always.
> Again, good luck!
You dont need luck if you know what you are doing.
> Wandering <amore.dei RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote
>> When you install Acronis, it has a lot of bells and whistles to
>> offer. Many
>> of these require running services on your system. At least four of
>> them. If
>> you don't use the bells and whistles, you can block their startup
>> with no problems. It is likely that one of these is keeping your
>> system from hibernating. You can disable them one at a time, and
>> test for yourself. I realize there are differences of opinion on hibernation, but it
>> sure doesn't belong inside an install or uninstall procedure.
>>
>> Your assumption that interfering with hibernation makes the program
>> or OS somehow unreliable is unfounded. Most systems use specific
>> tweaks to implement hibernation, and it is often tacked onto the OS.
>> In any event, failing to hibernate does not make a system unstable
>> or unreliable. Relax a bit and work with it and see if Acronis can't help you out. By the
>> way they have very active and very helpful forums on their website.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:62r2rfF24dg8hU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Joe <abc RemoveThis @xyz.com> wrote:
>>>> I just purchased Acronis 11 and after reading the manual- realized
>>>> that this is a very powerful program and before I install it on my
>>>> newest Dell running Vista which is now my main business computer, I
>>>> decided to test it on an older (2004) Dell running XP.
>>>>
>>>> It installed OK but before trying to use the program, I tried to
>>>> hibernate the PC. Nothing happened - it sat there for hours. I then
>>>> did a full shutdown and that worked OK. I thought I'd sleep on the
>>>> problem. This morning I realized after the first required reboot to
>>>> complete the installation process- I didn't remove the installation
>>>> disk - so perhaps that was causing the system to not hibernate- so
>>>> I removed the installation disk- and tried again, no luck. I
>>>> uninstalled the program, then reinstalled, then tried again to
>>>> hibernate, no luck.
>>>> The really weird thing is that as the UNinstallation process
>>>> started- THEN- the system decided to hibernate, which it did, I
>>>> turned the system back on- it was still showing the uninstallation
>>>> process- I completed the uninstall. Once Acronis is uninstalled,
>>>> the hibernate process works just fine.
>>>> Comments appreciated.
>>>
>>> Just some quirk of that particular Dell.
>>>
>>> I dont get that effect on the systems I have installed TI 11 on. >> Stay informed about: Acronis 11 on XP stops proper hibernate or stand by |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:33 pm
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Greg Cisko <gcisko.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote
>> Greg Cisko <gcisko.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Don't do it... Reboots are always better.
>> Wrong again.
> Must be a windows/PC expert or something...
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:09 pm
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In message <62r2uuF248n6vU1 RemoveThis @mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> writes
>Joe <abc RemoveThis @xyz.com> wrote:
>> "Greg Cisko" <gcisko RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:sdydnZRUnu_DhVXanZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> "Joe" <abc RemoveThis @xyz.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0lUxj.4095$RQ3.46@trndny05...
>>>> I just purchased Acronis 11 and after reading the manual- realized
>>>> that this is a very powerful program and before I install it on my
>>>> newest Dell running Vista which is now my main business computer, I
>>>> decided to test it on an older (2004) Dell running XP.
>>>>
>>>> It installed OK but before trying to use the program, I tried to
>>>> hibernate the PC. Nothing happened - it sat there for hours. I then
>>>> did a full shutdown and that worked OK. I thought I'd sleep on the
>>>> problem. This morning I realized after the first required reboot to
>>>> complete the installation process- I didn't remove the installation
>>>> disk - so perhaps that was causing the system to not hibernate- so
>>>> I removed the installation disk- and tried again, no luck. I
>>>> uninstalled the program, then reinstalled, then tried again to
>>>> hibernate, no luck. The really weird thing is that as the
>>>>UNinstallation process
>>>> started- THEN- the system decided to hibernate, which it did, I
>>>> turned the system back on- it was still showing the uninstallation
>>>> process- I completed the uninstall. Once Acronis is uninstalled,
>>>> the hibernate process works just fine.
>>>>
>>>> Comments appreciated.
>>>
>>> Hibernate is bad as a general habit. Don't do it... Reboots are
>>> always better.
>>
>>
>> You may be right- and let's just assume that you are right-
>> nonetheless, the fact that the program interferes with the OS like
>> this makes it untrustworthy.
>>
>> Also, just to be sure that the problem wasn't due to a bug in the
>> boxed version, I downloaded the latest trial version and see the same
>> problem.
>> Nobody has seen this problem?
>
>Nope, must be some quirk of that particular Dell.
>
>I havent seen that on any system I have installed TI 11 on, and I do
>normally hibernate.
>
>
Me too.
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Rod Speed wrote:
>> Hibernate is bad as a general habit.
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> Wrong.
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>> Don't do it... Reboots are always better.
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> Wrong again.
>
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Depends on your hardware. Hibernate has issues on some hardware. You can
hibernate ok but it won't come out of hibernation. I've had that happen
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Backspace <me RemoveThis @here.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Hibernate is bad as a general habit.
>> Wrong.
>>> Don't do it... Reboots are always better.
>> Wrong again.
> Depends on your hardware.
Nope, his ALWAYS is just plain wrong. And the first claim in spades.
> Hibernate has issues on some hardware.
Yes, but that normally prevents hibernation, so the choice doesnt arise.
> You can hibernate ok but it won't come out of hibernation. I've had that happen and is why I don't bother with it
> anymore.
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>> You can hibernate ok but it won't come out of hibernation. I've had that
>> happen and is why I don't bother with it anymore.
>
> Different matter entirely to his completely stupid proclamation.
*PLONK*
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