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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:48 am
Post subject: Acronis True Image Home v. 10 problem (doesn't work, avoid, in favor of Norton Ghost)
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I have Acronis True Image Home v. 10 build 4942, running it on a four
year old Pentium IV running Windows XP Pro SP2. There are two
internal EIDE HDs and two USB HDs.
Up to now, I've been using Norton Ghost to restore my "C" drive with
no problems. Several times I've restored the entire C drive using
Norton Ghost when new hardware drivers were installed and crashed my
system (that is, getting a BSOD, and you have to restart in Safe
Mode).
Because Acronis has such a good reputation I decided in the last few
weeks to forgo Norton Ghost (a 2001 version that I boot from a CD) to
back up my C drive, using only Acronis v. 10 from inside of Windows.
Big mistake.
When in fact a new hardware driver (the usual suspect, the video card)
caused my PC to crash, I tried to load an image file of the C: drive
that I had just backed up using Acronis. Much to my surprise, the
image file, which was on a USB external HD, would not load. I got a
bizarre error message from inside of Acronis that was clearly intended
for an Acronis programmer (an error code that was a number). I was
running the program in "Safe" mode from inside the Administrator
account.
Luckily, I "rolled back" the drivers (all four of them, since I had
four different hardware driver updates--note to reader: don't
download and install more than one hardware driver at a time from
Windows Update--since you'll have a hard time figuring out which one
is the culprit) and restored my system to the way it was before.
Other factors: I have several antivirus/spamware/firewalls running,
and perhaps they somehow interfered with restoration, but Acronis
should have given an error message that I could read (like "please
disable all XYZ programs.."), but, since I was running in "Safe" mode
in Windows, I doubt these programs were even loaded.
In short, Acronis, at least for my system, and when trying to reload
an image file to restore a HD from an external (USB) drive, doesn't
work.
I'm going back to Norton Ghost, which is free.
Acronis does seem to work for simple backup of data files, as opposed
to image files of an entire drive.
Beware--when you need this program the most, it might not work.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:44 pm
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On Oct 22, 10:38 am, "BIC" <rol....DeleteThis@pointbtinternet.com> wrote:
> you can say that for all BU software.........EVEN GHOST cos it f'k up my
> father hard drive.
Ghost has worked fine for me. TO each their own.
>
> when you buy a firework you don't know its gona work until YOU light it.
>
> Acronis is very good when used by a competent person.
How would you know? Have you tried it to restore a boot drive image?
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:38 pm
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I used Ghost for many years without incident, but early this year I
had to rebuild my XP/Pro machine. Ghost started generating error
messages and would not let me create backups. I tried dealing with
Symantec technical suppport, which proved to be a very frustrating and
completely useless experience. This was not my first experience with
Symantec technical and earlier experiences were no better than the
last. Norton products were great products with great technical until
Symantec pruchased the company.
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 05:48:39 -0700, raylopez99 <raylopez99 DeleteThis @yahoo.com>
wrote:
>I have Acronis True Image Home v. 10 build 4942, running it on a four
>year old Pentium IV running Windows XP Pro SP2. There are two
>internal EIDE HDs and two USB HDs.
>
>Up to now, I've been using Norton Ghost to restore my "C" drive with
>no problems. Several times I've restored the entire C drive using
>Norton Ghost when new hardware drivers were installed and crashed my
>system (that is, getting a BSOD, and you have to restart in Safe
>Mode).
>
>Because Acronis has such a good reputation I decided in the last few
>weeks to forgo Norton Ghost (a 2001 version that I boot from a CD) to
>back up my C drive, using only Acronis v. 10 from inside of Windows.
>Big mistake.
>
>When in fact a new hardware driver (the usual suspect, the video card)
>caused my PC to crash, I tried to load an image file of the C: drive
>that I had just backed up using Acronis. Much to my surprise, the
>image file, which was on a USB external HD, would not load. I got a
>bizarre error message from inside of Acronis that was clearly intended
>for an Acronis programmer (an error code that was a number). I was
>running the program in "Safe" mode from inside the Administrator
>account.
>
>Luckily, I "rolled back" the drivers (all four of them, since I had
>four different hardware driver updates--note to reader: don't
>download and install more than one hardware driver at a time from
>Windows Update--since you'll have a hard time figuring out which one
>is the culprit) and restored my system to the way it was before.
>
>Other factors: I have several antivirus/spamware/firewalls running,
>and perhaps they somehow interfered with restoration, but Acronis
>should have given an error message that I could read (like "please
>disable all XYZ programs.."), but, since I was running in "Safe" mode
>in Windows, I doubt these programs were even loaded.
>
>In short, Acronis, at least for my system, and when trying to reload
>an image file to restore a HD from an external (USB) drive, doesn't
>work.
>
>I'm going back to Norton Ghost, which is free.
>
>Acronis does seem to work for simple backup of data files, as opposed
>to image files of an entire drive.
>
>Beware--when you need this program the most, it might not work.
>
>RL >> Stay informed about: Acronis True Image Home v. 10 problem (doesn't work, avoid.. |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Acronis True Image Home v. 10 problem (doesn't work, avoid, in favor of Norton Ghost) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"raylopez99" <raylopez99 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1193057319.859754.144290@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>I have Acronis True Image Home v. 10 build 4942, running it on a four
> year old Pentium IV running Windows XP Pro SP2. There are two
> internal EIDE HDs and two USB HDs.
>
> Up to now, I've been using Norton Ghost to restore my "C" drive with
> no problems. Several times I've restored the entire C drive using
> Norton Ghost when new hardware drivers were installed and crashed my
> system (that is, getting a BSOD, and you have to restart in Safe
> Mode).
>
> Because Acronis has such a good reputation I decided in the last few
> weeks to forgo Norton Ghost (a 2001 version that I boot from a CD) to
> back up my C drive, using only Acronis v. 10 from inside of Windows.
> Big mistake.
>
> When in fact a new hardware driver (the usual suspect, the video card)
> caused my PC to crash, I tried to load an image file of the C: drive
> that I had just backed up using Acronis. Much to my surprise, the
> image file, which was on a USB external HD, would not load. I got a
> bizarre error message from inside of Acronis that was clearly intended
> for an Acronis programmer (an error code that was a number). I was
> running the program in "Safe" mode from inside the Administrator
> account.
>
> Luckily, I "rolled back" the drivers (all four of them, since I had
> four different hardware driver updates--note to reader: don't
> download and install more than one hardware driver at a time from
> Windows Update--since you'll have a hard time figuring out which one
> is the culprit) and restored my system to the way it was before.
>
> Other factors: I have several antivirus/spamware/firewalls running,
> and perhaps they somehow interfered with restoration, but Acronis
> should have given an error message that I could read (like "please
> disable all XYZ programs.."), but, since I was running in "Safe" mode
> in Windows, I doubt these programs were even loaded.
>
> In short, Acronis, at least for my system, and when trying to reload
> an image file to restore a HD from an external (USB) drive, doesn't
> work.
>
> I'm going back to Norton Ghost, which is free.
>
> Acronis does seem to work for simple backup of data files, as opposed
> to image files of an entire drive.
>
> Beware--when you need this program the most, it might not work.
>
> RL
>
you can say that for all BU software.........EVEN GHOST cos it f'k up my
father hard drive.
when you buy a firework you don't know its gona work until YOU light it.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:34 am
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On Oct 22, 11:31 pm, spodosaurus <spodosaurus.DeleteThis@_yahoo_.com> wrote:
> raylopez99 wrote:
> > I'm going back to Norton Ghost, which is free.
>
> Since when?
>
> --
> spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply
> Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please
> volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life:http://www.abmdr.org.au/http://www.marrow.org/
I'm using the free Norton Ghost 2002 CD that I got at eBay for $1 +
shipping. For all I know it could be pirated, but it works fine. YOu
have to book from your floppy (using Windows 9  or from the CD
(ditto), but it does clone HDs (twice I've used this) and it does an
image backup of your root drive. But you need to copy the root (C 
drive to a FAT32 drive partition not on the physical drive, which I do
(my seperate D: drive,which has a FAT32 partition on it just for this
purpose). Norton Ghost, unlike Acronis, has saved me countless times
(at least a half dozen) when doing a restore of the image (root)
drive.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:11 am
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"raylopez99" <raylopez99.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 22, 10:38 am, "BIC" <rol....TakeThisOut@pointbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> you can say that for all BU software.........EVEN GHOST cos it f'k up my
>> father hard drive.
>
> Ghost has worked fine for me. TO each their own.
>
>>
>> when you buy a firework you don't know its gona work until YOU light it.
>>
>> Acronis is very good when used by a competent person.
>
> How would you know? Have you tried it to restore a boot drive image?
>
> RL
>
>
>
yes....
dj
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:42 am
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I was a long time Ghost user myself from way back when you ran it from a
single floppy. (version 5 or 6)
I've discovered that Ghost was fine up and until Symantec bout it and came
out with Ghost 2003. From there on it was all downhill. Much more complex to
use, etc.
That's when I heard about Acronis Trueimage and downloaded their 15 day
trial version, I think that was back at ver 8 of Trueimage.
I've never gone back to Ghost since.
I haven't had a single problem with Versions 8,9, or 10 in both backing up
and restoring anything.
I'm sorry that it's just not working properly for you.
"raylopez99" <raylopez99.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1193057319.859754.144290@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>I have Acronis True Image Home v. 10 build 4942, running it on a four
> year old Pentium IV running Windows XP Pro SP2. There are two
> internal EIDE HDs and two USB HDs.
>
> Up to now, I've been using Norton Ghost to restore my "C" drive with
> no problems. Several times I've restored the entire C drive using
> Norton Ghost when new hardware drivers were installed and crashed my
> system (that is, getting a BSOD, and you have to restart in Safe
> Mode).
>
> Because Acronis has such a good reputation I decided in the last few
> weeks to forgo Norton Ghost (a 2001 version that I boot from a CD) to
> back up my C drive, using only Acronis v. 10 from inside of Windows.
> Big mistake.
>
> When in fact a new hardware driver (the usual suspect, the video card)
> caused my PC to crash, I tried to load an image file of the C: drive
> that I had just backed up using Acronis. Much to my surprise, the
> image file, which was on a USB external HD, would not load. I got a
> bizarre error message from inside of Acronis that was clearly intended
> for an Acronis programmer (an error code that was a number). I was
> running the program in "Safe" mode from inside the Administrator
> account.
>
> Luckily, I "rolled back" the drivers (all four of them, since I had
> four different hardware driver updates--note to reader: don't
> download and install more than one hardware driver at a time from
> Windows Update--since you'll have a hard time figuring out which one
> is the culprit) and restored my system to the way it was before.
>
> Other factors: I have several antivirus/spamware/firewalls running,
> and perhaps they somehow interfered with restoration, but Acronis
> should have given an error message that I could read (like "please
> disable all XYZ programs.."), but, since I was running in "Safe" mode
> in Windows, I doubt these programs were even loaded.
>
> In short, Acronis, at least for my system, and when trying to reload
> an image file to restore a HD from an external (USB) drive, doesn't
> work.
>
> I'm going back to Norton Ghost, which is free.
>
> Acronis does seem to work for simple backup of data files, as opposed
> to image files of an entire drive.
>
> Beware--when you need this program the most, it might not work.
>
> RL
> >> Stay informed about: Acronis True Image Home v. 10 problem (doesn't work, avoid.. |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:31 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:58 am
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:44:56 -0700, raylopez99 <raylopez99.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Oct 22, 10:38 am, "BIC" <rol....TakeThisOut@pointbtinternet.com> wrote:
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>> you can say that for all BU software.........EVEN GHOST cos it f'k up my
>> father hard drive.
>
>Ghost has worked fine for me. TO each their own.
>
>>
>> when you buy a firework you don't know its gona work until YOU light it.
>>
>> Acronis is very good when used by a competent person.
>
>How would you know? Have you tried it to restore a boot drive image?
I have and I have had no problem at all.
I used to use Ghost but have been using Acronis for about 2 years or
so with absolutely no problem at all. Sorry it didn't work for you but
I must report that it is exactly what I need. By the way all of my
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:58 am
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raylopez99 <raylopez99 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Because Acronis has such a good reputation I decided in the last
> few weeks to forgo Norton Ghost (a 2001 version that I boot from a
> CD) to back up my C drive, using only Acronis v. 10 from inside of
> Windows. Big mistake.
>
> When in fact a new hardware driver (the usual suspect, the video
> card) caused my PC to crash, I tried to load an image file of the
> C: drive that I had just backed up using Acronis. Much to my
> surprise, the image file, which was on a USB external HD, would
> not load.
The main mistake was not verifying that it/you can do a restore
before you counted on the software to work for you. If you've played
around with Windows for thousands of hours, you learn that trick, to
doublecheck that the software does what it's supposed to do and what
you've told it to do.
> RL
Another option for backing up your Windows partition is Partition
Manager 2005 (or whichever). By the way. One trick/workaround to
using Partition Manager is to change the settings so that virtual
operations are enabled and so that partitions are hidden after a
copy... and... then when you copy a partition that you want to be
hidden, you right-click and Unhide/Hide that partition before
executing any changes. For some reason, Partition Manager requires
the partition just copied and hidden to be toggled like that,
otherwise it ends up being unhidden after the reboot when the
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:58 am
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J Spitzer <jspitz.TakeThisOut@cnet.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:44:56 -0700, raylopez99
> <raylopez99.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Oct 22, 10:38 am, "BIC" <rol....TakeThisOut@pointbtinternet.com> wrote:
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>>> you can say that for all BU software.........EVEN GHOST cos it
>>> f'k up my father hard drive.
>>
>>Ghost has worked fine for me. TO each their own.
>>
>>>
>>> when you buy a firework you don't know its gona work until YOU
>>> light it.
Software isn't fireworks, you can test it first.
>>> Acronis is very good when used by a competent person.
A competent person wouldn't compare software with a firecracker.
>>How would you know? Have you tried it to restore a boot drive
>>image?
>
> I have and I have had no problem at all.
I have and did have a problem. For what ever reason, Acronis could
not restore a boot/Windows partition image from DVDs. But I checked
that immediately after making the copy, before counting on it. Since
I already have something that works, so I didn't bother
troubleshooting the issue.
Maybe next time the original poster will test the software first,
and then avoid cross-posting, as if the failure of the software
(without having tested it first) is earth-shattering news. >> Stay informed about: Acronis True Image Home v. 10 problem (doesn't work, avoid.. |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:58 am
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:48 am
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:58 -0700, raylopez99 <raylopez99.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Oct 22, 11:31 pm, spodosaurus <spodosaurus.TakeThisOut@_yahoo_.com> wrote:
>> raylopez99 wrote:
>> > I'm going back to Norton Ghost, which is free.
>>
>> Since when?
>>
>> --
>> spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply
>> Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please
>> volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life:http://www.abmdr.org.au/http://www.marrow.org/
>
>I'm using the free Norton Ghost 2002 CD that I got at eBay for $1 +
>shipping. For all I know it could be pirated, but it works fine. YOu
>have to book from your floppy (using Windows 9 or from the CD
>(ditto), but it does clone HDs (twice I've used this) and it does an
>image backup of your root drive. But you need to copy the root (C
>drive to a FAT32 drive partition not on the physical drive, which I do
>(my seperate D: drive,which has a FAT32 partition on it just for this
>purpose). Norton Ghost, unlike Acronis, has saved me countless times
>(at least a half dozen) when doing a restore of the image (root)
>drive.
>
>RL
If you have a Seagate Hard Drive in your system you can download a
free version of Acronis from Seagate Web site. It only checks for a
seagate drive and has most of the features
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:50 am
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On Oct 23, 8:20 pm, John Doe <j....TakeThisOut@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
> >>How would you know? Have you tried it to restore a boot drive
> >>image?
>
> > I have and I have had no problem at all.
>
> I have and did have a problem. For what ever reason, Acronis could
> not restore a boot/Windows partition image from DVDs. But I checked
> that immediately after making the copy, before counting on it. Since
> I already have something that works, so I didn't bother
> troubleshooting the issue.
>
> Maybe next time the original poster will test the software first,
> and then avoid cross-posting, as if the failure of the software
> (without having tested it first) is earth-shattering news.
The whole purpose of these Usenet groups is to share information of
success and failure, not to break "earth shattering news"--I'll leave
that up to Reuters.
Thanks for sharing your tips in this thread.
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