Advice needed on moving data drive to C:

Mike T. wrote:
> <jtpryan.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159189484.010421.247820@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >I currently have 2 drives in my system. Drive C: is my boot and XP Pro
> > drive. F: is my data drive. I would like to move to a RAID 1
> > configuration with 2 160Gb SATA drives. C: is 8Gb, F: is 18Gb. Both
> > are SCSI. As for as physically moving the data to one drive my plan is
> > to Ghost C: to one of the 160's, then copy everything from F: to this
> > same drive. I don't see a problem there. My issue will come in with
> > the registry and any .ini files I might have that refer to paths on F:,
> > which will now be on C: I suppose I could blast the registry and
> > search and replace all occurrences of F:\ with C:\, but I just know it
> > can't be that simple. I really, really, don't want to have to
> > reinstall all my apps, there are a ton of them.
> >
> > Has anybody done this that can give me a heads up on potential
> > problems?
> >
> > -Jim
> >
>
> I think there is an easier way. I use a program called acronis true image,
> somewhat similar to ghost. It can image entire logical drives and "span"
> them across multiple media disks. True Image can also COMPRESS images it
> creates. Because of compression, it's likely that you could use True Image
> to back up your C and F drives to (three?) DVD+R disks.
>
> Now I don't know if Ghost can compress and span, like True Image can. But
> if it has the same capabilities, you could do the same with Ghost. So here
> is what I'd do, if I was trying to replace the SCSI disks in your system:
>
> 1) Image C: using True Image or ghost, store the image on 1 or 2 DVD+R
> disks (depending on compression)
> 2) Image F: using True Image or ghost, store the image on 2 - 4 DVD+R disks
> (depending on compression)
> 3) Don't remove the SCSI drives from the system yet, but do disable the
> SCSI controller in BIOS, or disconnect the SCSI data cables
> 4) Install the SATA drives, physically. Set your BIOS to RAID 1
> 5) Boot your True Image or Ghost rescue CD-Rom, restore drives C and F to
> the RAID disks.
> 6) If necessary, go to system management, disk management and change the
> logical drive letter of your non-boot drive to F:
> 7) After confirming that everything is working OK, remove the SCSI drives
> from the system.

Thank you for the input. But would not the end result be I have 1
drive, 2 partitions (C: F, mirrored? Not the end of the world, I was
just hoping to get away from the "other drive letter" scenario. I
guess it wouldn't be that bad, I could give the different partitions
enough space so I wouldn't have to worry about it. It's just that
having only drive C from an install and drive space perspective
simplifies things.

-Jim
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<jtpryan RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159189484.010421.247820@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>I currently have 2 drives in my system. Drive C: is my boot and XP Pro
> drive. F: is my data drive. I would like to move to a RAID 1
> configuration with 2 160Gb SATA drives. C: is 8Gb, F: is 18Gb. Both
> are SCSI. As for as physically moving the data to one drive my plan is
> to Ghost C: to one of the 160's, then copy everything from F: to this
> same drive. I don't see a problem there. My issue will come in with
> the registry and any .ini files I might have that refer to paths on F:,
> which will now be on C: I suppose I could blast the registry and
> search and replace all occurrences of F:\ with C:\, but I just know it
> can't be that simple. I really, really, don't want to have to
> reinstall all my apps, there are a ton of them.
>
> Has anybody done this that can give me a heads up on potential
> problems?
>
> -Jim
>

I think there is an easier way. I use a program called acronis true image,
somewhat similar to ghost. It can image entire logical drives and "span"
them across multiple media disks. True Image can also COMPRESS images it
creates. Because of compression, it's likely that you could use True Image
to back up your C and F drives to (three?) DVD+R disks.

Now I don't know if Ghost can compress and span, like True Image can. But
if it has the same capabilities, you could do the same with Ghost. So here
is what I'd do, if I was trying to replace the SCSI disks in your system:

1) Image C: using True Image or ghost, store the image on 1 or 2 DVD+R
disks (depending on compression)
2) Image F: using True Image or ghost, store the image on 2 - 4 DVD+R disks
(depending on compression)
3) Don't remove the SCSI drives from the system yet, but do disable the
SCSI controller in BIOS, or disconnect the SCSI data cables
4) Install the SATA drives, physically. Set your BIOS to RAID 1
5) Boot your True Image or Ghost rescue CD-Rom, restore drives C and F to
the RAID disks.
6) If necessary, go to system management, disk management and change the
logical drive letter of your non-boot drive to F:
7) After confirming that everything is working OK, remove the SCSI drives
from the system.
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> Thank you for the input. But would not the end result be I have 1
> drive, 2 partitions (C: F, mirrored? Not the end of the world, I was
> just hoping to get away from the "other drive letter" scenario. I
> guess it wouldn't be that bad, I could give the different partitions
> enough space so I wouldn't have to worry about it. It's just that
> having only drive C from an install and drive space perspective
> simplifies things.
>
> -Jim
>

Well the right way to do this would be to reinstall windows and all your
software. The workaround to avoid that would be to re-create the two
logical drives (C and F) somehow. -Dave
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jtpryan DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> I currently have 2 drives in my system. Drive C: is my boot and XP
> Pro drive. F: is my data drive. I would like to move to a RAID 1
> configuration with 2 160Gb SATA drives. C: is 8Gb, F: is 18Gb. Both
> are SCSI. As for as physically moving the data to one drive my plan
> is to Ghost C: to one of the 160's, then copy everything from F: to
> this same drive. I don't see a problem there. My issue will come in
> with the registry and any .ini files I might have that refer to paths
> on F:, which will now be on C: I suppose I could blast the registry
> and search and replace all occurrences of F:\ with C:\, but I just
> know it can't be that simple. I really, really, don't want to have to
> reinstall all my apps, there are a ton of them.
>
> Has anybody done this that can give me a heads up on potential
> problems?

I'd clone the current C: drive to the sata RAID1 array using something
that is RAID1 aware like True Image. Then I'd unplug the SCSI HA
and do a repair install of XP onto the RAID1 array, to get the drivers
properly configured for the RAID1 array.

I'd then put the SCSI HA back and manually copy
whats on the 18G SCSI drive to the RAID1 array.

In theory its better to do a clean install of XP onto the RAID1 array,
but thats rather more work, particularly installing all the apps again
and getting the settings the way you want them again.

Ghost doesnt necessarily understand RAID1 arrays, varys with the
version and 9 and 10 dont clone very well because they cant clone
from the booted CD. They can only clone from Ghost installed on
the C drive and that produces a big mess drive letter wise.
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Rod Speed wrote:
> jtpryan.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> > I currently have 2 drives in my system. Drive C: is my boot and XP
> > Pro drive. F: is my data drive. I would like to move to a RAID 1
> > configuration with 2 160Gb SATA drives. C: is 8Gb, F: is 18Gb. Both
> > are SCSI. As for as physically moving the data to one drive my plan
> > is to Ghost C: to one of the 160's, then copy everything from F: to
> > this same drive. I don't see a problem there. My issue will come in
> > with the registry and any .ini files I might have that refer to paths
> > on F:, which will now be on C: I suppose I could blast the registry
> > and search and replace all occurrences of F:\ with C:\, but I just
> > know it can't be that simple. I really, really, don't want to have to
> > reinstall all my apps, there are a ton of them.
> >
> > Has anybody done this that can give me a heads up on potential
> > problems?
>
> I'd clone the current C: drive to the sata RAID1 array using something
> that is RAID1 aware like True Image. Then I'd unplug the SCSI HA
> and do a repair install of XP onto the RAID1 array, to get the drivers
> properly configured for the RAID1 array.
>
> I'd then put the SCSI HA back and manually copy
> whats on the 18G SCSI drive to the RAID1 array.
>
> In theory its better to do a clean install of XP onto the RAID1 array,
> but thats rather more work, particularly installing all the apps again
> and getting the settings the way you want them again.
>
> Ghost doesnt necessarily understand RAID1 arrays, varys with the
> version and 9 and 10 dont clone very well because they cant clone
> from the booted CD. They can only clone from Ghost installed on
> the C drive and that produces a big mess drive letter wise.


Actually, what my (sort of) plan was, was to build half my mirror as a
stand alone drive, get it all running properly, back it up or image it,
then mirror it. So the RAID drivers would be afterwards. Make sense?

-Jim
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jtpryan <jtpryan.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> jtpryan.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I currently have 2 drives in my system. Drive C: is my boot and XP
>>> Pro drive. F: is my data drive. I would like to move to a RAID 1
>>> configuration with 2 160Gb SATA drives. C: is 8Gb, F: is 18Gb.
>>> Both are SCSI. As for as physically moving the data to one drive
>>> my plan is to Ghost C: to one of the 160's, then copy everything
>>> from F: to this same drive. I don't see a problem there. My issue
>>> will come in with the registry and any .ini files I might have that
>>> refer to paths on F:, which will now be on C: I suppose I could
>>> blast the registry and search and replace all occurrences of F:\
>>> with C:\, but I just know it can't be that simple. I really,
>>> really, don't want to have to reinstall all my apps, there are a
>>> ton of them.
>>>
>>> Has anybody done this that can give me a heads up on potential
>>> problems?
>>
>> I'd clone the current C: drive to the sata RAID1 array using
>> something that is RAID1 aware like True Image. Then I'd unplug the
>> SCSI HA
>> and do a repair install of XP onto the RAID1 array, to get the
>> drivers properly configured for the RAID1 array.
>>
>> I'd then put the SCSI HA back and manually copy
>> whats on the 18G SCSI drive to the RAID1 array.
>>
>> In theory its better to do a clean install of XP onto the RAID1
>> array, but thats rather more work, particularly installing all the
>> apps again and getting the settings the way you want them again.
>>
>> Ghost doesnt necessarily understand RAID1 arrays, varys with the
>> version and 9 and 10 dont clone very well because they cant clone
>> from the booted CD. They can only clone from Ghost installed on
>> the C drive and that produces a big mess drive letter wise.
>
>
> Actually, what my (sort of) plan was, was to build half my mirror as a
> stand alone drive, get it all running properly, back it up or image
> it, then mirror it. So the RAID drivers would be afterwards. Make sense?

Yeah, that should work, but its easier to just use a raid aware imager.
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