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Rick9

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 6:08 pm
Post subject: Amperage chart for motherboards/cpus?
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Anyone know of a compiled database of amperage requirements
for motherboards and cpus? For some reason motherboard
manufacturers don't list this info in their specs, and cpu makers
give a wattage rating but not whether it's 3.3, 5 or 12v.

Thanks,
Rick

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Phil Weldon1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:52 pm
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I have never seen a data base of motherboard power requirements.

Intel lists the current requirements and voltage requirements for all of its
CPU's, along with the maximum wattage. I assume AMD does the same.

No presently manufactured PC compatible CPU's use 3.3, 5, or 12 volts. The
design specifications for motherboards that use Pentium 4 class CPU's call
for a 12 volt supply to the on-board non-linear switching voltage
down-convertor/regulator that supplies ~ 1.5 volts to the CPU. Since this
is a switching convertor/regulator, relatively little power is wasted as
heat as would be if it were a linear voltage regulator. The conversion is
perhaps 80% efficient, so if the CPU requires 80 Watts (1.5 volts at ~ 53
Amperes), then the 12 volt requirement for that regulator will be about 100
Watts, or 12 volts at ~ 8.5 Amperes.

The power required by a motherboard itself is minor compared to the power
requirements for the CPU, memory, display adapter, and drives; all of which
are not choosen by the motherboard manufacturer. Only the chip set is a
significant power consuming component on the motherboard (other than the
down-convertor/regulators that supply on-motherboard-regulated power to the
CPU, memory, and display adapter.) If you have to have a number for the
power consumed by the motherboard itself, including the chip set, try 25
Watts. I don't know which supply line that would be from with newer boards,
but since switching voltage regulators are more efficient working from 12
volts rather than 5 volts the 12 volt supply may be the source. In
addition, the specifications for ATX power supplies for Pentium 4 CPU's (ATX
12V 2.03) require power sharing among the 12 volt, 5 volt, and 3.3 volt
lines, so the total, combined power rating for these three lines is the
important number, not the individual power ratings.

Phil Weldon, pweldon.DeleteThis@mindspring.com

"Rick" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
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 > Anyone know of a compiled database of amperage requirements
 > for motherboards and cpus? For some reason motherboard
 > manufacturers don't list this info in their specs, and cpu makers
 > give a wattage rating but not whether it's 3.3, 5 or 12v.
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Rick
 >
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:52 pm
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Thanks Phil, very helpful info.

Rick

"Phil Weldon" <pweldon.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:bhs3dt$cjl$1@slb4.atl.mindspring.net...
 > I have never seen a data base of motherboard power requirements.
 >
 > Intel lists the current requirements and voltage requirements for all of its
 > CPU's, along with the maximum wattage. I assume AMD does the same.
 >
 > No presently manufactured PC compatible CPU's use 3.3, 5, or 12 volts. The
 > design specifications for motherboards that use Pentium 4 class CPU's call
 > for a 12 volt supply to the on-board non-linear switching voltage
 > down-convertor/regulator that supplies ~ 1.5 volts to the CPU. Since this
 > is a switching convertor/regulator, relatively little power is wasted as
 > heat as would be if it were a linear voltage regulator. The conversion is
 > perhaps 80% efficient, so if the CPU requires 80 Watts (1.5 volts at ~ 53
 > Amperes), then the 12 volt requirement for that regulator will be about 100
 > Watts, or 12 volts at ~ 8.5 Amperes.
 >
 > The power required by a motherboard itself is minor compared to the power
 > requirements for the CPU, memory, display adapter, and drives; all of which
 > are not choosen by the motherboard manufacturer. Only the chip set is a
 > significant power consuming component on the motherboard (other than the
 > down-convertor/regulators that supply on-motherboard-regulated power to the
 > CPU, memory, and display adapter.) If you have to have a number for the
 > power consumed by the motherboard itself, including the chip set, try 25
 > Watts. I don't know which supply line that would be from with newer boards,
 > but since switching voltage regulators are more efficient working from 12
 > volts rather than 5 volts the 12 volt supply may be the source. In
 > addition, the specifications for ATX power supplies for Pentium 4 CPU's (ATX
 > 12V 2.03) require power sharing among the 12 volt, 5 volt, and 3.3 volt
 > lines, so the total, combined power rating for these three lines is the
 > important number, not the individual power ratings.
 >
 > Phil Weldon, pweldon.DeleteThis@mindspring.com
 >
 > "Rick" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
 > news:bhp8u7$1pk7q$1@ID-82690.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > > Anyone know of a compiled database of amperage requirements
  > > for motherboards and cpus? For some reason motherboard
  > > manufacturers don't list this info in their specs, and cpu makers
  > > give a wattage rating but not whether it's 3.3, 5 or 12v.
  > >
  > > Thanks,
  > > Rick
  > >
  > >
 >
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 9:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Amperage chart for motherboards/cpus? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Rick wrote:
 > Anyone know of a compiled database of amperage requirements
 > for motherboards and cpus? For some reason motherboard
 > manufacturers don't list this info in their specs, and cpu makers
 > give a wattage rating but not whether it's 3.3, 5 or 12v.
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Rick
 >
 >


See the Builder's Guide at:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/SellAMDProducts/0,,30_177_4458_3505%5E869%5E4348%5E1065,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/SellAMDProducts/0,,30_177_4458_350...E869%5E</a>

for a worksheet that incites you to add up the power requirements for
your individual components.

Apparently all the XP's power comes from the 12V rail.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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