Any Asus Maximus Formula owners out there?

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:34:39 GMT, "John E" <JCE RemoveThis @myhouse.invalid>
wrote:

>"news.qwest.net" <greybard RemoveThis @qwest.net> wrote in message
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>> Haven't seen much discussion of these board.
>>
>> The specs look good and I think it will be a good upgrade from my P5W
>> Deluxe (The having to go into BIOS to reset the boot device to my Raid
>> everytime I plug anything on the USB chain is getting incredibly
>> annoying...).
>>
>> Anyone have any experiences with this board they could share?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
>Yup, as of last Thursday. I mostly like it. I'm not a hard-core gamer, which
>is the target audience for this motherboard - but I like the quality
>components, and the (almost) silence due to the passive Northbridge and
>Southbridge cooling. It is endlessly tweakable, but that requires a bit more
>understanding of the implications of all the possible tweaks - it isn't as
>simple as the Asus AI NOS, although there is something called AI booster,
>and CPU 'Level up' which instantly configures everything as if you had a
>faster processor. With a core-2 duo processor (I have an E6850) not
>overclocked, and with the case fans configured with Q-fan, it runs cool and
>very quiet.
>
>It has a handy CMOS clear button on the backplane - so it is very easy to
>clear the CMOS if it won't boot after overclocking.
>
>I'm not using RAID - my last three machines have all used RAID 0, but I've
>come to the conclusion that it is just too much hassle when I pass the
>machine on to No. 2 son, and have to reconfigure it all; so I bought a 750GB
>Samsung drive, and although that isn't so fast in benchmarks, there is no
>noticeable difference in everyday use. I've configured it as AHCI, rather
>than IDE and benchmarks suggest that that is slower for sequential reads and
>writes than IDE, but faster for random R/W.
>
>John

I'm always glad to learn of someone who ditches RAID because it's
"just too much hassle" and gives "no noticeable difference in everyday
use." RAID 1 makes marvelous sense for many users. It's my belief
that RAID 0 has been the single most overrated "innovation" for DIY
builders for the last 7 or 8 years. It works wonders . . . for about
5% of those who have it installed (those running applications that can
truly benefit from RAID 0). For everyone else, it's just an
additional hassle at OS installation, approximately doubles the
likelihood of problems from HD failure, and leads, as you say, to "no
noticeable difference in everyday use."
 >> Stay informed about: Any Asus Maximus Formula owners out there? 

"news.qwest.net" <greybard DeleteThis @qwest.net> wrote in message
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> Haven't seen much discussion of these board.
>
> The specs look good and I think it will be a good upgrade from my P5W
> Deluxe (The having to go into BIOS to reset the boot device to my Raid
> everytime I plug anything on the USB chain is getting incredibly
> annoying...).
>
> Anyone have any experiences with this board they could share?
>
> Thanks!
>

ASUS just announced a new board the P5E3 Premium WiFi-AP that looks allot
closer to the features of the P5W DH Deluxe. Their is a comparison between
the P5E3 and Rampage Formula found at:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20080205PR201.html

I too, am interested in replacing my P5W DH Deluxe. It's just been to
unstable for my liking. I threw new faster ram at it in hope of settling it
down, it helped, but things are still not stable from boot to boot for my
taste. The Rampage Formula series just don't have the I/O I want, and no
Wi-Fi. I will be watching the P5E3 as it is reviewed to see how things go.

William
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On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:24:36 -0500, milleron <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:34:39 GMT, "John E" <JCE.RemoveThis@myhouse.invalid>
>wrote:
>

>>
>>I'm not using RAID - my last three machines have all used RAID 0, but I've
>>come to the conclusion that it is just too much hassle when I pass the
>>machine on to No. 2 son, and have to reconfigure it all; so I bought a 750GB
>>Samsung drive, and although that isn't so fast in benchmarks, there is no
>>noticeable difference in everyday use. I've configured it as AHCI, rather
>>than IDE and benchmarks suggest that that is slower for sequential reads and
>>writes than IDE, but faster for random R/W.
>>
>>John
>
>I'm always glad to learn of someone who ditches RAID because it's
>"just too much hassle" and gives "no noticeable difference in everyday
>use." RAID 1 makes marvelous sense for many users. It's my belief
>that RAID 0 has been the single most overrated "innovation" for DIY
>builders for the last 7 or 8 years. It works wonders . . . for about
>5% of those who have it installed (those running applications that can
>truly benefit from RAID 0). For everyone else, it's just an
>additional hassle at OS installation, approximately doubles the
>likelihood of problems from HD failure, and leads, as you say, to "no
>noticeable difference in everyday use."


Raid0 is a hassle for the dummies that:-

(a) decide to put their boot partition on RAID0 ( F6 install and all
that trash. Pictured by me as a bootstrap firmly encircling the
owner's neck and just waiting to be yanked into a complete
system crash by a disc glitch. Nice to know that there are
those who are very happy burning vast quantities of time
re-installing their whole OS and drivers.and anything else on
the C: drive.... because they are usually the same dummies
that do not observe paragraph (c) below.

(b) decide to use more than 2 disks in a RAID0 configuration
on a <<desktop>> for some crazy notion of "bragging-rights",
since there is little measurable benefit over 2 disks..with
diminishing data-rate returns, due to overhead elsewhere in the
system, while still multiplying the potential failure rate by
the number of disks involved.

(c) Fail to back up all critical information, whether on RAID0 or
not.

I have been running a RAID0 configuration with 2 250Gbyte
disks on a A8N32-SLI (nForce4 X16) with ZERO problems for the past
couple of years. Used solely for software benefitting from short load
times, both games and professional software. And definitely NOT
used for my system-partition. My C: drive resides on a third disk.

John Lewis
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Hopefully we can also figure out how to get Speedfan working with this
board...

I am still working on figuring out why some of my fans are showing 30k+ RPMs
(I think there a sound barrier broken somewhere near there!).


"John Lewis" <john.dsl.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:24:36 -0500, milleron <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:34:39 GMT, "John E" <JCE.TakeThisOut@myhouse.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>
>>>
>>>I'm not using RAID - my last three machines have all used RAID 0, but
>>>I've
>>>come to the conclusion that it is just too much hassle when I pass the
>>>machine on to No. 2 son, and have to reconfigure it all; so I bought a
>>>750GB
>>>Samsung drive, and although that isn't so fast in benchmarks, there is no
>>>noticeable difference in everyday use. I've configured it as AHCI, rather
>>>than IDE and benchmarks suggest that that is slower for sequential reads
>>>and
>>>writes than IDE, but faster for random R/W.
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>I'm always glad to learn of someone who ditches RAID because it's
>>"just too much hassle" and gives "no noticeable difference in everyday
>>use." RAID 1 makes marvelous sense for many users. It's my belief
>>that RAID 0 has been the single most overrated "innovation" for DIY
>>builders for the last 7 or 8 years. It works wonders . . . for about
>>5% of those who have it installed (those running applications that can
>>truly benefit from RAID 0). For everyone else, it's just an
>>additional hassle at OS installation, approximately doubles the
>>likelihood of problems from HD failure, and leads, as you say, to "no
>>noticeable difference in everyday use."
>
>
> Raid0 is a hassle for the dummies that:-
>
> (a) decide to put their boot partition on RAID0 ( F6 install and all
> that trash. Pictured by me as a bootstrap firmly encircling the
> owner's neck and just waiting to be yanked into a complete
> system crash by a disc glitch. Nice to know that there are
> those who are very happy burning vast quantities of time
> re-installing their whole OS and drivers.and anything else on
> the C: drive.... because they are usually the same dummies
> that do not observe paragraph (c) below.
>
> (b) decide to use more than 2 disks in a RAID0 configuration
> on a <<desktop>> for some crazy notion of "bragging-rights",
> since there is little measurable benefit over 2 disks..with
> diminishing data-rate returns, due to overhead elsewhere in the
> system, while still multiplying the potential failure rate by
> the number of disks involved.
>
> (c) Fail to back up all critical information, whether on RAID0 or
> not.
>
> I have been running a RAID0 configuration with 2 250Gbyte
> disks on a A8N32-SLI (nForce4 X16) with ZERO problems for the past
> couple of years. Used solely for software benefitting from short load
> times, both games and professional software. And definitely NOT
> used for my system-partition. My C: drive resides on a third disk.
>
> John Lewis
>
>
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speedfan
Try config > advanced
hit dropdown for your "winbond" and change divisor.
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"William" <nospam RemoveThis @pacifier.com> wrote in message
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>
> "news.qwest.net" <greybard RemoveThis @qwest.net> wrote in message
> news:47a840d7$0$3579$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
>> Haven't seen much discussion of these board.
>>
>> The specs look good and I think it will be a good upgrade from my P5W
>> Deluxe (The having to go into BIOS to reset the boot device to my Raid
>> everytime I plug anything on the USB chain is getting incredibly
>> annoying...).
>>
>> Anyone have any experiences with this board they could share?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
> ASUS just announced a new board the P5E3 Premium WiFi-AP that looks allot
> closer to the features of the P5W DH Deluxe. Their is a comparison
> between the P5E3 and Rampage Formula found at:
> http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20080205PR201.html
>
> I too, am interested in replacing my P5W DH Deluxe. It's just been to
> unstable for my liking. I threw new faster ram at it in hope of settling
> it down, it helped, but things are still not stable from boot to boot for
> my taste. The Rampage Formula series just don't have the I/O I want, and
> no Wi-Fi. I will be watching the P5E3 as it is reviewed to see how
> things go.
>
> William
>
 >> Stay informed about: Any Asus Maximus Formula owners out there? 

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:07:50 -0700, "news.qwest.net"
<greybard RemoveThis @qwest.net> wrote:

>Hopefully we can also figure out how to get Speedfan working with this
>board...
>
>I am still working on figuring out why some of my fans are showing 30k+ RPMs
>(I think there a sound barrier broken somewhere near there!).
>

Why bother ? You are like the doctor who walks around with a
stethoscope in his ears with the other end firmly planted on his
chest. Check the default fan speeds on BIOS. And set the sundry
BIOS alarms to taste. Then enjoy your computing.

John Lewis
 >> Stay informed about: Any Asus Maximus Formula owners out there? 

Change the divisor to what?


"Supernews" <ytrewq.TakeThisOut@uiop.com> wrote in message
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> speedfan
> Try config > advanced
> hit dropdown for your "winbond" and change divisor.
> =======================
> "William" <nospam.TakeThisOut@pacifier.com> wrote in message
> news:13qi02m29nls2cd@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "news.qwest.net" <greybard.TakeThisOut@qwest.net> wrote in message
>> news:47a840d7$0$3579$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
>>> Haven't seen much discussion of these board.
>>>
>>> The specs look good and I think it will be a good upgrade from my P5W
>>> Deluxe (The having to go into BIOS to reset the boot device to my Raid
>>> everytime I plug anything on the USB chain is getting incredibly
>>> annoying...).
>>>
>>> Anyone have any experiences with this board they could share?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>> ASUS just announced a new board the P5E3 Premium WiFi-AP that looks allot
>> closer to the features of the P5W DH Deluxe. Their is a comparison
>> between the P5E3 and Rampage Formula found at:
>> http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20080205PR201.html
>>
>> I too, am interested in replacing my P5W DH Deluxe. It's just been to
>> unstable for my liking. I threw new faster ram at it in hope of settling
>> it down, it helped, but things are still not stable from boot to boot for
>> my taste. The Rampage Formula series just don't have the I/O I want, and
>> no Wi-Fi. I will be watching the P5E3 as it is reviewed to see how
>> things go.
>>
>> William
>>
>
>
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