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Thomas Andersson

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:01 am
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Hi!

Tried this in the asus.mainboard first but got no reply, so hoping some of
you cooling gurus might help (After all, overclocking is much about cooling
the cpu).

I'm looking for suggestions of good cooling solution for the Striker Extreme
board (with the heatpipe setup space is limited as I understand it). Premium
is quietness, but some overclockabillity would be nice to (E4300 cpu hoping
for 2.5-3GHz). What would be the best combination of these features for this
board?

TIA
Thomas

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:01 am
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'Thomas Anderson' wrote:
| Tried this in the asus.mainboard first but got no reply, so hoping some of
| you cooling gurus might help (After all, overclocking is much about
cooling
| the cpu).
|
| I'm looking for suggestions of good cooling solution for the Striker
Extreme
| board (with the heatpipe setup space is limited as I understand it).
Premium
| is quietness, but some overclockabillity would be nice to (E4300 cpu
hoping
| for 2.5-3GHz). What would be the best combination of these features for
this
| board?
_____

Stock cooling should give you a stable speed within that range. Try for a
lower than stock CPU voltage once you get a good overclock. I use an EVGA
680i motherboard and E4300 @ 2.7 GHz and 1.250 core voltage. The EVGA
nVidia 680i motherboard also has a heatpipe connecting the two halves of the
chipset, with a fan on the SPP chip (the two VR heatsinks have no fans, but
with my E4300 these don't get any hotter than the CPU heatsink fins.
Download the manual and you should be able to get the scale from some known
item size (distance between CPU heatsink mounting holes, for instance) and
then measure the clearances. It may be that as long as you bring LOTS of
outside air through the case, directing the air down over the SPP
heatsink/fan, CPU heatsink fan, video card heatsink/fan, and memory modules
there isn't much better CPU cooling possible without going to water cooling
for the CPU.

Phil Weldon

"Thomas Andersson" <thomas.DeleteThis@tifozi.net> wrote in message
news:5d0m95F32nk28U1@mid.individual.net...
| Hi!
|
| Tried this in the asus.mainboard first but got no reply, so hoping some of
| you cooling gurus might help (After all, overclocking is much about
cooling
| the cpu).
|
| I'm looking for suggestions of good cooling solution for the Striker
Extreme
| board (with the heatpipe setup space is limited as I understand it).
Premium
| is quietness, but some overclockabillity would be nice to (E4300 cpu
hoping
| for 2.5-3GHz). What would be the best combination of these features for
this
| board?
|
| TIA
| Thomas
|
|

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:49 am
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Phil Weldon wrote:

> Stock cooling should give you a stable speed within that range. Try
> for a lower than stock CPU voltage once you get a good overclock. I

Thanks, reassuring words and good info. How about noice level of the stock
cooler? (anyone know roughly what dB it is? iddle/full blast).

Best Wishes
Thomas
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:49 am
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Thomas Andersson wrote:
> Phil Weldon wrote:
>
>> Stock cooling should give you a stable speed within that range. Try
>> for a lower than stock CPU voltage once you get a good overclock. I
>
> Thanks, reassuring words and good info. How about noice level of the stock
> cooler? (anyone know roughly what dB it is? iddle/full blast).
>
> Best Wishes
> Thomas
>
>

You can always test the Intel cooler, and if you aren't happy with the
noise level, go shopping for a substitute.

The Newegg entry for the E6600 processor, has 1300 reviews in it. In
there, you can see some suggestions for what people are using for cooling.
I only read a few comments, and there was a Zalman 9500 and a 9700 in
the list. But with the plumbing on the Striker Extreme, not everything is
going to fit.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003

It is hard to tell if something like this would fit. This is an
example of a Zalman (9700NT w. 4 pin connector). The 4 pin connector
is important, if you want PWM control via the CPU fan header. A FanMate II
fan speed control is an alternative, if you want the fan speed fixed at
some value.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118020

The Striker Extreme has 183 reviews. The reviewers mentioned a few
coolers they were using. The four listed ones, are ones I found in
the reviewers comments.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813131074

Arctic Freezer 7 Pro (square form factor, on the small side)
ultra 120
freezone
zalman 9700

The Ultra 120 is reviewed here. Theta_R is 0.13-0.17. A 65W processor
will have a delta_T of 0.17C/W * 65W = 11C with respect to case temp.
If your case was 35C, the CPU will be 46C. Fasteners look like screws.
AFAIK, no fan comes with the cooler. You buy a fan separate. (To get
the same theta_R as the review, you would buy the same fan and run it
at the same voltage.)

http://www.overclockers.com/articles1329/

This is a similar concept, only the mounting hardware uses push pins (boo).
SI 128 has theta_R of 0.14-0.19. I think I like the other one better.

http://www.overclockers.com/articles1340/

The web page for the Zalman 9700NT doesn't list a Theta_R, and the
web page for the 9500 has a value that can be used as an estimate.
It is 0.12-0.16, depending on fan speed.

http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=165&code=009

Theta_R is measured here, at 0.17C/W for the 9700. The Scythe Ninja
is mentioned here as well,

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article727-page3.html

The 9700 is short in the length dimension, so the marking on
the motherboard for the four "feet" are visible. But
the diameter of the 9700, must make it a close fit to the
heatsink fins of the Striker Extreme.

http://www.bcchardware.com/gallery/albums/CNPS-9700-LED/HSF_Installed.jpg

OK, here is a Striker Extreme with a 9700 mounted on it Smile

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1137865

The Scythe Ninja has a square form factor. The measured Theta_R is
0.20C/W at full speed. This would be fine, as long as you can
get the clips fastened on it. One thing to watch, on any cooler family,
is the design of the clips or fasteners. Some coolers have dreadful
fasteners, some of which bend easily. If looking at Scythe products,
that is something to check.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article251-page4.html

The Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro uses push pins like the SI 128 and
also the Intel retail fan. Theta_R is listed as 0.17C/W, but I have
my doubts. I'd prefer to get someone else to measure it. Note as
well, the figure quoted for the retail Intel cooler, of 49dB. That
seems a bit high.

http://www.arcticcooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=79&disc=

Freezer Pro 7 is measured here, at 0.21C/W at full speed and 84W input.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article285-page1.html

I still haven't seen a cooler, that blows down onto the board, and
does a better job of cooling those chipset coolers. Maybe the 9700
would spill air in a couple directions (radially and towards the rear
of the case), but I've never seen a description of the airflow pattern.

This one, apparently, doesn't fit (GeminII RR-CCH-ANU2-GP) Smile
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/35-103-026-03.jpg

Something like this looks tempting, but how would you get your
hands underneath it, to fasten the clip ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106061

Hope that gives you a few things to research. There is lots of
info out there.

Paul
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