Mark Johnson <102334.12 RemoveThis @compuserve.com> wrote in message news:<uhuuvv0n45se3ff3b3604eu6hl9hrlp0qq RemoveThis @4ax.com>...
> j.burghdoff RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net (Jim B.) wrote:
>
> >> I'll admit I like the idea of using ATA 133 in a RAID array.
> >> Apparently, from what I read, other canterwood boards don't do that. I
> >> like the sound of the cmedia, etc. But other boards have all those USB
> >> ports. Other boards have the chipset stuff, and 800FSB. Without a more
> >> useful BIOS, I'm beginning to wonder if I made a mistake with this
> >> particular implementation of Canterwood from Soyo.
>
> >Thats because this board uses an INTEL processor. The only way to
> >overclock the cpu on your motherboard is by increasing the FSB (front
> >side bus speed)above the normal 200Mhz for the 800Mhz Pentium 4 or
> >above the 133Mhz norm for the 533Mhz Pentium 4. This can be done in
> >fact Toms Hardware Guide just published the overclocking of a 3Ghz P-4
> >to 5Ghz but when you overclock your creating more heat.
>
> That I understand. Right now an overclocking app shows my fsb clock at
> 133, for a 2.66, which it should be. The BIOS shows a 333 freq for a
> card of DDR400, but just one card not two, and a clock of 166 (which I
> assume is normal for running at 333). I got a Corsair Value Select,
> which apparently is what it is. I'm looking at a pair of Corsair XMS,
> or OCZ (which they say their PC3700 and PC4000 might work on the
> 41875). Sandra benchmarks for the CPU match that of other 2.66. I take
> that to mean it's running as it should. It's not the fastest, to be
> sure. It's not the slowest, either. But I understand that the 2.66
> can't really be sped up, much. And I understand that overclocking
> means heat, and perhaps unreliability if you decide to play a video
> game.
>
>
> >Your lack of the CD not being recognized means your using Windows XP
> >because if you were using Windows 98 it would have done so.
>
> Actually 98SE. And that's exactly what happened. It still can't
> recognize the board. And all the drivers are now present. I think it's
> just an antique CD, that they threw in the box for no reason.
>
> It's frustrating, when you expect everything to be there, and for that
> price. I mean, if they sold the board for $50, it might be different.
>
>
> >As for other Canterwood boards having Raid, most do but your board
> >also has it as part of the ICH5 Canterwood chip. This is designated
> >ICH5R and many of the Canterwood 865 and 875 boards do have it. You
> >just need to check to see if it lists the Canterwood Chip as ICH5 or
> >ICH5R. Your board has three different types of chips to run RAID
> >arrays. It's part of the ICH5R but only at ATA100, it's part of the
> >Silicon Image chip (this and the ICH5R are SATA RAID only)and you also
> >have the Highpoint RAID controller chip as well which will give you
> >ATA133 RAID.
>
> Well, the disk benchmarks are pretty good. How could you know for sure
> what the rate is? I'm not using RAID. But it's what I guess is a
> standard Maxtor 80GB 133. It's the only master drive on IDE 3.
>
> This ability to use the 133 drives in a RAID array, is that pretty
> unique to this board, or is that also part of 875, and found on other
> boards?
>
>
> >As far as overclocking goes I don't overclock my P4I 875PE DRAGON 2
> >Platinum 3Ghz is plenty fast. But have done so with my P4I 845PE, its
> >got a 2.4
>
> That's the "C" series Pentium, correct? My 2.66 shows a, "B".
>
> >and I've got it to run stable at 3.01Mhz by upping the FSB
> >and this is still using the OEM intel fan to cool it with. The SY-P4I
> >875 is one of the best boards I've ever owned and its one of the most
> >feature packed boards out there.
>
> People on this ng have just recently complained that they can't use
> the LAN. I turned it off, because I don't need it. But is it usable if
> you did need it?
Well lets see where to start here. The three classes of Pentium-4's
are:
A series = 400Mhz
B series = 533Mhz (as you already know)
C series = 800Mhz
My overclocked 2.4 in my 845PE is a B series 533MHz cpu so you see you
can overclock these. But you need to start out by only raising the FSB
by a few MHz per try. Also it depends on what you have connected to
where on the board. I can overclock higher on this board by keeping my
hard drive on IDE 1 or 2 instead of the Highpoint controller (IDE
3)when you get to high it will cause the computer to either not boot
at all or come up with errors when running programs.
On your memory, 333Mhz is as fast as it will run due to your cpu
without overclocking. If you put in a C series 800Mhz processor as I
have in my 875 it will run at 400Mhz. You are correct that your clock
rate for your memory is 166 which with DDR (Double Data Rate) is
166Mhz. My memory operates at 200Mhz which when doubled = 400Mhz.
When you overclock if you don't set the Async AGP/PCI clock to one of
the settings (I use the 66/33 seting on my 845 board) listed when you
increase the FSB it will increase the AGP and PCI bus speeds as well.
This causes problems when overclocking because many devices don't like
higher clock rates, video cards most of all.
Your P4I 875 board must be one of the boards shipped with the wrong
Soyo CD that would explain why it doesn't recognize your board. Simply
because the disk doesn't support your board. You can contact Soyo
support about this and get the correct one from them.
As for benchmarking hard disk speed there are programs you can buy to
do just that. As for running ATA133 drives in a RAID array, thats part
of your onboard Highpoint RAID controller chip. Many motherboard are
out on the market with this chip on them. It's not unique to the Soyo
motherboards. Your board also has the ability to run the SATA 150
drives in RAID-0 or RAID-1 on either the Silicon Image chip or the
ICH5R chip.
In one of your posts you asked how one does research without a
computer, well there are many magazines and books out there to read on
these subjects. Some refer to this type of information as hard copy.
As for the onboard NIC I use it on my board. Haven't had any problem
with it at all. Your correct if not using it turn it off in the BIOS.
That holds true for any other device your not using on your board. By
doing so your freeing up IRQ's on a Windows 98SE machine.
As for using RAID-0 it speeds up disk reads and writes by spliting
information between two hard disks. The downfall is if you have a hard
disk failure, you will loose all information on both hard disks. I use
RAID-0 for video editing between two RAID-0 arrays (four hard drives).
So far in four years of using RAID-0 arrays I have not had a single
drive failure. But on my older 845PE board I can not overclock that
board if I try using the RAID controller. Works great without it so
it's used for other applications (gaming and buisness software).
As for comparisons and testing of Intel 875 motherboards some have
been done, I don't know if there were any direct comparison tests
between the Intel vs Soyo. Most Intel motherboards are basic boards by
that I mean no bells and whistles like onboard sound and additional
sources of RAID controllers. Tom's Hardware Guide does testing such as
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