NEW BUILD TROUBLESHOOTING

pezgarden DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> Quick Question:
>
> If a new build wont go beyond the LOGO SCREEN. Not posting.
>
> 1. If the CPU is not working, will the video card work (LOGO SCREEN)?
>
> 2. If there are no drives attached will nit still post (BIOS)?
>
> 3. If the ram is bad will Bios Post?
>
> Thanks, I'm trying to figure out what isn't working?
>
> Peace
>
> Max

The minimum needed to POST is a PSU, CPU, one stick of memory, a video
card, keyboard, mouse and a BIOS that can identify the CPU.

In your previous post, you listed some numbers, apparently from your MB.
For those of us (TINU) that don't have the same MB, how about the entire
model number and make, including BIOS version.
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pezgarden.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> Quick Question:
>
> If a new build wont go beyond the LOGO SCREEN. Not posting.
>
> 1. If the CPU is not working, will the video card work (LOGO SCREEN)?
>
> 2. If there are no drives attached will nit still post (BIOS)?
>
> 3. If the ram is bad will Bios Post?
>
> Thanks, I'm trying to figure out what isn't working?
>
> Peace
>
> Max

If you've got a logo on the screen, a lot of stuff has to work for that
to happen. For example, if video wasn't working, the computer would beep
the case speaker (the one connected to SPKR pins). If RAM and video are
working, but there are still errors, then an error message can be printed
on the screen (such as "no keyboard").

Consult the manual, as to which key to press to get into the BIOS. On
my computer, I believe it is the <Delete> key.

Once in the BIOS, locate the Logo setting, and disable the Logo image.
That will make it easier to observe messages on the screen at startup.

Also, in your original post, you didn't give a complete model number
for the motherboard.

If drives are not connected, then eventually the BIOS will complain
about being unable to find something to boot with.

Paul
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hello!

Actually everything came from Fry's but I drove 90 miles to
microCenter and got my e8400 for $189.99 + tax. Fry's doesn't even
sell them yet.

I've downloaded the bios. I'll see how I can get my board flashed.
Hopefully that is the problem.

Thanks for everyone's prompt help!!

Max

On Feb 8, 10:43 pm, "RobV" <r....RemoveThis@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> pezgar....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> > Thanks guys,
>
> > The MB is a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L. Bought new yesterday. Revision 2.
> > This system has never run. When the Logo screen comes up it lists the
> > Bios keys you can press. nothing happens when I press, DEL or TAB or
> > END. I have never gotten into the bios.
>
> > I bought this at Frys. They were not to knowledgable this evening.
> > They said to reset the Bios. i will try that. Perhaps the board is not
> > able to run the new e8400 CPU. But I thought i read elsewhere, that
> > even if you need to update bios for the e8400, you'd be able to get
> > deep enough into the bios to do that.
>
> > I'm glad it sounds like my CPU is okay. I put in a replacement
> > Motherboard but I only get to the LOGO Screen.
>
> > I don't have another 775 chip to try to get into bios and flash.
>
> > i don't think I can find out the bios version from the exterior?
>
> > Wish me luck.
>
> > Max
>
> OK, here's the page at Gigabyte on the MB (rev 2 version):http://www.gigabyte.us/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?Pr...
>
> The Intel P35 chipset does support the Wolfdale 45nm CPUs, but the BIOS
> must have support for it as well.
>
> This is the list of BIOS updates, the most current being F8a released
> 12/06/07, which gives support specifically for the Wolfdale (E8xxx)
> CPUs.http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Motherboard/BIOS_Model.aspx?ProductID=...
>
> Depending on when that MB was manufactured, it can have (and probably
> does have) an earlier BIOS that doesn't support the E8xxx. I have no
> idea what the BIOS update changes to support the E8xxx CPUs, but the F8a
> version is the one you need for the MB to properly recognize and run the
> E8400.
>
> What I would do if resetting the BIOS doesn't work and you can't get
> into it to flash to the latest BIOS, is go to Frys and have them lend
> you a E6600, or some other Conroe core CPU. That way, you could flash
> to the proper BIOS, then give it right back. Frys should go along with
> it, especially since they probably soaked you on the price of the E8400
> (MSRP from Intel is $183).
>
> Good luck! Let us (TINU) know what happens.
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pezgarden.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:

> Quick Question:
>
> If a new build wont go beyond the LOGO SCREEN. Not posting.
>
> 1. If the CPU is not working, will the video card work (LOGO
> SCREEN)?

No.

> 2. If there are no drives attached will nit still post (BIOS)?

I think so. Have you tried getting into the BIOS? Have you ever been
there?

> 3. If the ram is bad will Bios Post?

Not if it's covered by a logo screen? The logo screen comes from the
BIOS. My BIOS has always run a RAM test.

> Thanks, I'm trying to figure out what isn't working?

When stumped, I hunker down and remove everything that isn't
necessary. That's the best way to efficiently solve the problem.
Patience might be difficult to come by when firing up a new system,
but turn your anxiety into getting serious and getting it right.

Good luck and have fun.










>
> Peace
>
> Max
>
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pezgarden.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks guys,
>
> The MB is a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L. Bought new yesterday. Revision 2.
> This system has never run. When the Logo screen comes up it lists the
> Bios keys you can press. nothing happens when I press, DEL or TAB or
> END. I have never gotten into the bios.
>
> I bought this at Frys. They were not to knowledgable this evening.
> They said to reset the Bios. i will try that. Perhaps the board is not
> able to run the new e8400 CPU. But I thought i read elsewhere, that
> even if you need to update bios for the e8400, you'd be able to get
> deep enough into the bios to do that.
>
> I'm glad it sounds like my CPU is okay. I put in a replacement
> Motherboard but I only get to the LOGO Screen.
>
> I don't have another 775 chip to try to get into bios and flash.
>
> i don't think I can find out the bios version from the exterior?
>
> Wish me luck.
>
> Max

OK, here's the page at Gigabyte on the MB (rev 2 version):
http://www.gigabyte.us/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?Pro...tID=258

The Intel P35 chipset does support the Wolfdale 45nm CPUs, but the BIOS
must have support for it as well.

This is the list of BIOS updates, the most current being F8a released
12/06/07, which gives support specifically for the Wolfdale (E8xxx)
CPUs.
http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Motherboard/BIOS_Model.aspx?ProductID=2583

Depending on when that MB was manufactured, it can have (and probably
does have) an earlier BIOS that doesn't support the E8xxx. I have no
idea what the BIOS update changes to support the E8xxx CPUs, but the F8a
version is the one you need for the MB to properly recognize and run the
E8400.

What I would do if resetting the BIOS doesn't work and you can't get
into it to flash to the latest BIOS, is go to Frys and have them lend
you a E6600, or some other Conroe core CPU. That way, you could flash
to the proper BIOS, then give it right back. Frys should go along with
it, especially since they probably soaked you on the price of the E8400
(MSRP from Intel is $183).

Good luck! Let us (TINU) know what happens.
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pezgarden.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> hello!
>
> Actually everything came from Fry's but I drove 90 miles to
> microCenter and got my e8400 for $189.99 + tax. Fry's doesn't even
> sell them yet.
>
> I've downloaded the bios. I'll see how I can get my board flashed.
> Hopefully that is the problem.
>
> Thanks for everyone's prompt help!!
>
> Max

Sounds good! Nice that you got the E8400 for the real price.
Newegg.com is selling them for $244.99, up from ~$220 a week ago.

You're welcome. Hope everything works for you!



>
> On Feb 8, 10:43 pm, "RobV" <r....DeleteThis@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>> pezgar....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Thanks guys,
>>
>>> The MB is a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L. Bought new yesterday. Revision 2.
>>> This system has never run. When the Logo screen comes up it lists
>>> the Bios keys you can press. nothing happens when I press, DEL or
>>> TAB or END. I have never gotten into the bios.
>>
>>> I bought this at Frys. They were not to knowledgable this evening.
>>> They said to reset the Bios. i will try that. Perhaps the board is
>>> not able to run the new e8400 CPU. But I thought i read elsewhere,
>>> that even if you need to update bios for the e8400, you'd be able
>>> to get deep enough into the bios to do that.
>>
>>> I'm glad it sounds like my CPU is okay. I put in a replacement
>>> Motherboard but I only get to the LOGO Screen.
>>
>>> I don't have another 775 chip to try to get into bios and flash.
>>
>>> i don't think I can find out the bios version from the exterior?
>>
>>> Wish me luck.
>>
>>> Max
>>
>> OK, here's the page at Gigabyte on the MB (rev 2
>> version):http://www.gigabyte.us/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?Pr...
>>
>> The Intel P35 chipset does support the Wolfdale 45nm CPUs, but the
>> BIOS
>> must have support for it as well.
>>
>> This is the list of BIOS updates, the most current being F8a released
>> 12/06/07, which gives support specifically for the Wolfdale (E8xxx)
>> CPUs.http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Motherboard/BIOS_Model.aspx?ProductID=...
>>
>> Depending on when that MB was manufactured, it can have (and probably
>> does have) an earlier BIOS that doesn't support the E8xxx. I have no
>> idea what the BIOS update changes to support the E8xxx CPUs, but the
>> F8a
>> version is the one you need for the MB to properly recognize and run
>> the
>> E8400.
>>
>> What I would do if resetting the BIOS doesn't work and you can't get
>> into it to flash to the latest BIOS, is go to Frys and have them lend
>> you a E6600, or some other Conroe core CPU. That way, you could
>> flash
>> to the proper BIOS, then give it right back. Frys should go along
>> with
>> it, especially since they probably soaked you on the price of the
>> E8400 (MSRP from Intel is $183).
>>
>> Good luck! Let us (TINU) know what happens.
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pezgarden RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks guys,
>
> The MB is a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L. Bought new yesterday. Revision 2.
> This system has never run. When the Logo screen comes up it lists the
> Bios keys you can press. nothing happens when I press, DEL or TAB or
> END. I have never gotten into the bios.
>
> I bought this at Frys. They were not to knowledgable this evening.
> They said to reset the Bios. i will try that. Perhaps the board is not
> able to run the new e8400 CPU. But I thought i read elsewhere, that
> even if you need to update bios for the e8400, you'd be able to get
> deep enough into the bios to do that.
>
> I'm glad it sounds like my CPU is okay. I put in a replacement
> Motherboard but I only get to the LOGO Screen.
>
> I don't have another 775 chip to try to get into bios and flash.
>
> i don't think I can find out the bios version from the exterior?
>
> Wish me luck.
>
> Max

The CPU support for E8400, would have been added pretty recently. I checked
the BIOS downloads, and F8a was released Dec.6 of last year. Chances
are, you are not running that BIOS right now. A reviewer on Newegg,
says he got a board with F7 BIOS and the E8400 ran with it. So apparently
the latest BIOS is not an absolute requirement (on some brands of
motherboards, you wouldn't be getting anywhere with the wrong BIOS,
so this is good news). Another reviewer got a board with an F6
BIOS and that ran the E8400 as well. Apparently the BIOS is not in
a socket on this motherboard.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_Model.aspx?P...uctID=2

There are hundreds of reviews here. The reviews claim the same Newegg
order number is used for Rev.1 and Rev.2, which is a minor inconvenience
in terms of using the info here.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

If I'm reading the manual right, pressing <tab> is supposed to make
the full screen logo go away. <del> should allow entering the BIOS.
So it must be getting stuck after putting up that logo.

Is the keyboard being used, a PS/2 or a USB ?

If the keyboard lights are no longer flashing, then maybe it isn't
even getting as far as accessing the keyboard.

There is a description in the manual for the CLR_CMOS header. Unplug
the computer before going near it. To reset the CMOS, short the two
pins together for a short time, while the computer is unplugged. The
pins are to be left disconnected, before plugging back in. You're
not supposed to leave any jumper cap on it.

When you've been fooling around with the RAM, have you turned off the
power at the back in each case ? The RAM socket still has power if the
computer supply is on at the back. As long as you're still seeing
the logo, I don't expect anything is busted. I'm surprised you aren't
getting any beep codes through the computer case speaker, while you're
trying your various tests (like removing all the RAM should have
given a beep code for "missing RAM").

So I'm stumped. I don't see an easy way out of this, short of buying
the cheapest compatible Celeron D you can find, for testing. I mean,
it could be related to the use of a PCI video card, but you did get
the logo...

Paul
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Greetings!

Yes, I have both a USB an PS/2 keyboard I've tried. But no effect when
pressing any of the bio related keys. Just the logo screen. I did try
reseting the bios by shorting those 2 pins for a few seconds. When I
restrarted, No change.

I also read others with older bios were able to flash their bios. So
even if my bios are not F8a as needed, I should be able to get into
the bios.


I'm on my second motherboard, so I don't think the first one was
defective. The CPU appears to be okay, Video is working. I have only
one of my 2 2gig OCZ DDR2 PC6400 chips in. I'm not 100% but I don't
believe the ram is causing any trouble.

Thanks

max

On Feb 9, 12:45 am, Paul <nos....DeleteThis@needed.com> wrote:
> pezgar....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> > Thanks guys,
>
> > The MB is a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L. Bought new yesterday. Revision 2.
> > This system has never run. When the Logo screen comes up it lists the
> > Bios keys you can press. nothing happens when I press, DEL or TAB or
> > END. I have never gotten into the bios.
>
> > I bought this at Frys. They were not to knowledgable this evening.
> > They said to reset the Bios. i will try that. Perhaps the board is not
> > able to run the new e8400 CPU. But I thought i read elsewhere, that
> > even if you need to update bios for the e8400, you'd be able to get
> > deep enough into the bios to do that.
>
> > I'm glad it sounds like my CPU is okay. I put in a replacement
> > Motherboard but I only get to the LOGO Screen.
>
> > I don't have another 775 chip to try to get into bios and flash.
>
> > i don't think I can find out the bios version from the exterior?
>
> > Wish me luck.
>
> > Max
>
> The CPU support for E8400, would have been added pretty recently. I checked
> the BIOS downloads, and F8a was released Dec.6 of last year. Chances
> are, you are not running that BIOS right now. A reviewer on Newegg,
> says he got a board with F7 BIOS and the E8400 ran with it. So apparently
> the latest BIOS is not an absolute requirement (on some brands of
> motherboards, you wouldn't be getting anywhere with the wrong BIOS,
> so this is good news). Another reviewer got a board with an F6
> BIOS and that ran the E8400 as well. Apparently the BIOS is not in
> a socket on this motherboard.
>
> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_Model.aspx?...
>
> There are hundreds of reviews here. The reviews claim the same Newegg
> order number is used for Rev.1 and Rev.2, which is a minor inconvenience
> in terms of using the info here.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059
>
> If I'm reading the manual right, pressing <tab> is supposed to make
> the full screen logo go away. <del> should allow entering the BIOS.
> So it must be getting stuck after putting up that logo.
>
> Is the keyboard being used, a PS/2 or a USB ?
>
> If the keyboard lights are no longer flashing, then maybe it isn't
> even getting as far as accessing the keyboard.
>
> There is a description in the manual for the CLR_CMOS header. Unplug
> the computer before going near it. To reset the CMOS, short the two
> pins together for a short time, while the computer is unplugged. The
> pins are to be left disconnected, before plugging back in. You're
> not supposed to leave any jumper cap on it.
>
> When you've been fooling around with the RAM, have you turned off the
> power at the back in each case ? The RAM socket still has power if the
> computer supply is on at the back. As long as you're still seeing
> the logo, I don't expect anything is busted. I'm surprised you aren't
> getting any beep codes through the computer case speaker, while you're
> trying your various tests (like removing all the RAM should have
> given a beep code for "missing RAM").
>
> So I'm stumped. I don't see an easy way out of this, short of buying
> the cheapest compatible Celeron D you can find, for testing. I mean,
> it could be related to the use of a PCI video card, but you did get
> the logo...
>
> Paul
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pezgarden.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> hello!
>
> Actually everything came from Fry's but I drove 90 miles to
> microCenter and got my e8400 for $189.99 + tax. Fry's doesn't even
> sell them yet.
>
> I've downloaded the bios. I'll see how I can get my board flashed.
> Hopefully that is the problem.
>
> Thanks for everyone's prompt help!!
>
> Max

When I started up the new e8400 on an Asus P5K board it prompted me to
upgrade the bios in order to
take full advantage of the processor. After going through the Bios setup
screens it finished the bootup.
Cooly
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Hello!

I'll try removing the ram and moving the other one around. This will
mainly be a HTPC to be able to watch 1080p movies on a 52" Samsung
LCD. Surf the web like I'm doing right now. I highly recommend 52"
LCD very nice computer experience. I had an appletv for a couple weeks
and returned it. I have a lot of music, and the ATV is a wonderful
interface to listen and browse your music. Once I'm up and running I
will try the OSX86 project where you can run Leopard on an Intel PC.
Frontrow part of 10.5 looks almost the same as ATV interface.

I will overclock. 3.6 seems to be easy. I'll have to see how 4ghz is.
But first I need to get to the bios.

Thanks

max

On Feb 9, 7:40 pm, pcbldrNinetyEight <pcbldrninetyeight.com> wrote:
> pezgar....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote innews:afc6e272-ec5a-4e24-8ab3-fba0710b7f76@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 12:45 am, Paul <nos....DeleteThis@needed.com> wrote:
> >> pezgar....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > Thanks guys,
>
> >> > The MB is a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L. Bought new yesterday. Revision 2.
> >> > This system has never run. When the Logo screen comes up it lists
> >> > the Bios keys you can press. nothing happens when I press, DEL or
> >> > TAB or END. I have never gotten into the bios.
>
> >> > I bought this at Frys. They were not to knowledgable this evening.
> >> > They said to reset the Bios. i will try that. Perhaps the board is
> >> > not able to run the new e8400 CPU. But I thought i read elsewhere,
> >> > that even if you need to update bios for the e8400, you'd be able
> >> > to get deep enough into the bios to do that.
>
> >> > I'm glad it sounds like my CPU is okay. I put in a replacement
> >> > Motherboard but I only get to the LOGO Screen.
>
> >> > I don't have another 775 chip to try to get into bios and flash.
>
> >> > i don't think I can find out the bios version from the exterior?
>
> >> > Wish me luck.
>
> >> > Max
>
> >> The CPU support for E8400, would have been added pretty recently. I
> >> checked the BIOS downloads, and F8a was released Dec.6 of last year.
> >> Chances are, you are not running that BIOS right now. A reviewer on
> >> Newegg, says he got a board with F7 BIOS and the E8400 ran with it.
> >> So apparently the latest BIOS is not an absolute requirement (on some
> >> brands of motherboards, you wouldn't be getting anywhere with the
> >> wrong BIOS, so this is good news). Another reviewer got a board with
> >> an F6 BIOS and that ran the E8400 as well. Apparently the BIOS is not
> >> in a socket on this motherboard.
>
> >>http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_Model.aspx?.
> >> ..
>
> >> There are hundreds of reviews here. The reviews claim the same Newegg
> >> order number is used for Rev.1 and Rev.2, which is a minor
> >> inconvenience in terms of using the info here.
>
> >>http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059
>
> >> If I'm reading the manual right, pressing <tab> is supposed to make
> >> the full screen logo go away. <del> should allow entering the BIOS.
> >> So it must be getting stuck after putting up that logo.
>
> >> Is the keyboard being used, a PS/2 or a USB ?
>
> >> If the keyboard lights are no longer flashing, then maybe it isn't
> >> even getting as far as accessing the keyboard.
>
> >> There is a description in the manual for the CLR_CMOS header. Unplug
> >> the computer before going near it. To reset the CMOS, short the two
> >> pins together for a short time, while the computer is unplugged. The
> >> pins are to be left disconnected, before plugging back in. You're
> >> not supposed to leave any jumper cap on it.
>
> >> When you've been fooling around with the RAM, have you turned off the
> >> power at the back in each case ? The RAM socket still has power if
> >> the computer supply is on at the back. As long as you're still seeing
> >> the logo, I don't expect anything is busted. I'm surprised you aren't
> >> getting any beep codes through the computer case speaker, while
> >> you're trying your various tests (like removing all the RAM should
> >> have given a beep code for "missing RAM").
>
> >> So I'm stumped. I don't see an easy way out of this, short of buying
> >> the cheapest compatible Celeron D you can find, for testing. I mean,
> >> it could be related to the use of a PCI video card, but you did get
> >> the logo...
>
> >> Paul
>
> > Greetings!
>
> > Yes, I have both a USB an PS/2 keyboard I've tried. But no effect when
> > pressing any of the bio related keys. Just the logo screen. I did try
> > reseting the bios by shorting those 2 pins for a few seconds. When I
> > restrarted, No change.
>
> > I also read others with older bios were able to flash their bios. So
> > even if my bios are not F8a as needed, I should be able to get into
> > the bios.
>
> > I'm on my second motherboard, so I don't think the first one was
> > defective. The CPU appears to be okay, Video is working. I have only
> > one of my 2 2gig OCZ DDR2 PC6400 chips in. I'm not 100% but I don't
> > believe the ram is causing any trouble.
> > Thanks
> > max
>
> Remove the first DIMM and try the other one.
>
> --
> pcbldrNinetyEight
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Well, another crazy roadblock. my expensive Antec P182 case has no
speaker. But a stole one from a headset. Guess what. When I start up I
get a single beep which means everything is okay?

AWARD BIOS beep codes
1 short - Successful boot

But my keyboard has no effect on any of the bios options. Both
keyboards work on the Dell?

max
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Cooly wrote:
> pezgarden.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>> hello!
>>
>> Actually everything came from Fry's but I drove 90 miles to
>> microCenter and got my e8400 for $189.99 + tax. Fry's doesn't even
>> sell them yet.
>>
>> I've downloaded the bios. I'll see how I can get my board flashed.
>> Hopefully that is the problem.
>>
>> Thanks for everyone's prompt help!!
>>
>> Max
>
> When I started up the new e8400 on an Asus P5K board it prompted me to
> upgrade the bios in order to
> take full advantage of the processor. After going through the Bios
> setup screens it finished the bootup.
> Cooly

Nice! That's the way it should work. Are you going to overclock it?
Many people have gotten to 4 GHz very easily, according to the reviews
at Newegg.
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pezgarden.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote in
news:afc6e272-ec5a-4e24-8ab3-fba0710b7f76@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 9, 12:45 am, Paul <nos....RemoveThis@needed.com> wrote:
>> pezgar....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>> > Thanks guys,
>>
>> > The MB is a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L. Bought new yesterday. Revision 2.
>> > This system has never run. When the Logo screen comes up it lists
>> > the Bios keys you can press. nothing happens when I press, DEL or
>> > TAB or END. I have never gotten into the bios.
>>
>> > I bought this at Frys. They were not to knowledgable this evening.
>> > They said to reset the Bios. i will try that. Perhaps the board is
>> > not able to run the new e8400 CPU. But I thought i read elsewhere,
>> > that even if you need to update bios for the e8400, you'd be able
>> > to get deep enough into the bios to do that.
>>
>> > I'm glad it sounds like my CPU is okay. I put in a replacement
>> > Motherboard but I only get to the LOGO Screen.
>>
>> > I don't have another 775 chip to try to get into bios and flash.
>>
>> > i don't think I can find out the bios version from the exterior?
>>
>> > Wish me luck.
>>
>> > Max
>>
>> The CPU support for E8400, would have been added pretty recently. I
>> checked the BIOS downloads, and F8a was released Dec.6 of last year.
>> Chances are, you are not running that BIOS right now. A reviewer on
>> Newegg, says he got a board with F7 BIOS and the E8400 ran with it.
>> So apparently the latest BIOS is not an absolute requirement (on some
>> brands of motherboards, you wouldn't be getting anywhere with the
>> wrong BIOS, so this is good news). Another reviewer got a board with
>> an F6 BIOS and that ran the E8400 as well. Apparently the BIOS is not
>> in a socket on this motherboard.
>>
>> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_Model.aspx?.
>> ..
>>
>> There are hundreds of reviews here. The reviews claim the same Newegg
>> order number is used for Rev.1 and Rev.2, which is a minor
>> inconvenience in terms of using the info here.
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059
>>
>> If I'm reading the manual right, pressing <tab> is supposed to make
>> the full screen logo go away. <del> should allow entering the BIOS.
>> So it must be getting stuck after putting up that logo.
>>
>> Is the keyboard being used, a PS/2 or a USB ?
>>
>> If the keyboard lights are no longer flashing, then maybe it isn't
>> even getting as far as accessing the keyboard.
>>
>> There is a description in the manual for the CLR_CMOS header. Unplug
>> the computer before going near it. To reset the CMOS, short the two
>> pins together for a short time, while the computer is unplugged. The
>> pins are to be left disconnected, before plugging back in. You're
>> not supposed to leave any jumper cap on it.
>>
>> When you've been fooling around with the RAM, have you turned off the
>> power at the back in each case ? The RAM socket still has power if
>> the computer supply is on at the back. As long as you're still seeing
>> the logo, I don't expect anything is busted. I'm surprised you aren't
>> getting any beep codes through the computer case speaker, while
>> you're trying your various tests (like removing all the RAM should
>> have given a beep code for "missing RAM").
>>
>> So I'm stumped. I don't see an easy way out of this, short of buying
>> the cheapest compatible Celeron D you can find, for testing. I mean,
>> it could be related to the use of a PCI video card, but you did get
>> the logo...
>>
>> Paul
>
> Greetings!
>
> Yes, I have both a USB an PS/2 keyboard I've tried. But no effect when
> pressing any of the bio related keys. Just the logo screen. I did try
> reseting the bios by shorting those 2 pins for a few seconds. When I
> restrarted, No change.
>
> I also read others with older bios were able to flash their bios. So
> even if my bios are not F8a as needed, I should be able to get into
> the bios.
>
> I'm on my second motherboard, so I don't think the first one was
> defective. The CPU appears to be okay, Video is working. I have only
> one of my 2 2gig OCZ DDR2 PC6400 chips in. I'm not 100% but I don't
> believe the ram is causing any trouble.
> Thanks
> max

Remove the first DIMM and try the other one.

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