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"sam owens" <sam.RemoveThis@sam.com> wrote in message...
 > I'm looking at this cpu on eBay. I think it's the one that will work
 > fine but just want some input. If some kind soul could take a look
 > and corroborate my findings I'd be obliged.

Yeah, that's one of the Katmai 100MHz bus Pentium!!!'s, it'll work fine on
your board.
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"sam owens" <sam.RemoveThis@sam.com> wrote in message...
 > I'm looking at this cpu on eBay. I think it's the one that will work
 > fine but just want some input. If some kind soul could take a look
 > and corroborate my findings I'd be obliged.

Yeah, that's one of the original Katmai core, 100MHz bus Pentium!!!'s, it'll
work fine on your board.

Mind you, from a performance point of view you may be better off looking a
little further for one of the "Coppermine" 0.18 micron parts. The
clock-for-clock performance is better and they run cooler, while they were
also available at range of faster core speeds.
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:35:58 -0000, "Richard Hopkins"
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 >Mind you, from a performance point of view you may be better off looking a
 >little further for one of the "Coppermine" 0.18 micron parts. The
 >clock-for-clock performance is better and they run cooler, while they were
 >also available at range of faster core speeds.


I was under the impression that any CPU with a letter say, 600E as
opposed to 600 wouldn't work in the BX6. Is that wrong?

If it isn't is this the CPU you speak of?

Thanks for your replies!!

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"sam owens" <sam RemoveThis @sam.com> wrote in message news:e5svu0pf547sj5f20jmj5cekm1jpum2gae@4ax.com...
 > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:35:58 -0000, "Richard Hopkins"
 > <richh RemoveThis @dsl.nospam.com> wrote:
 >
 >
  > >Mind you, from a performance point of view you may be better off looking a
  > >little further for one of the "Coppermine" 0.18 micron parts. The
  > >clock-for-clock performance is better and they run cooler, while they were
  > >also available at range of faster core speeds.
 >
 >
 > I was under the impression that any CPU with a letter say, 600E as
 > opposed to 600 wouldn't work in the BX6. Is that wrong?
 >
 > If it isn't is this the CPU you speak of?
 >
 > Thanks for your replies!!
 >
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If I remember correctly the BX6 Rev 1 has no support for
1.5v core voltage, which is what Coppermines use. You do
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"Tom" <me RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
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 > If I remember correctly the BX6 Rev 1 has no support for
 > 1.5v core voltage, which is what Coppermines use.

Nope. Coppermines are 1.65-1.75 volts, and work fine on the BX6. It was the
Tualatin that needed 1.475-1.525 volts, and it's these you need the
PowerLeap type adapter for.
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"sam owens" <sam.DeleteThis@sam.com> wrote in message...
 > I was under the impression that any CPU with a letter say, 600E as
 > opposed to 600 wouldn't work in the BX6. Is that wrong?

Yeah, that's wrong. You'll be fine with a (100MHz bus) Pentium!!! 600E, 700
and so-on, although you'll obviously need to find a Coppermine compatible
slot to socket converter if you end up with a Socket 370 CPU.

It's the 133MHz bus CPU's (600B, 600EB, 667, 800EB, 933) that aren't quite
so well suited to these boards, although you'll probably be able to run one
if you have good PC133 memory and an AGP graphics card that'll handle the
out of spec bus speed.
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"Richard Hopkins" <richh.DeleteThis@dsl.nospam.com> wrote in message news:41eff9f0$0$19154$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
 > "Tom" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
 > news:35ab19F4iq7uiU1@individual.net...
  > > If I remember correctly the BX6 Rev 1 has no support for
  > > 1.5v core voltage, which is what Coppermines use.
 >
 > Nope. Coppermines are 1.65-1.75 volts, and work fine on the BX6. It was the
 > Tualatin that needed 1.475-1.525 volts, and it's these you need the
 > PowerLeap type adapter for.

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"Tom" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote in message...
 > Ah thanks for the correction Richard. It's all becoming a haze
 > from the last century..

Tell me about it! I had to double-check before my original post, it's
getting hard to remember what's supported and what isn't on those older
boards!
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Excellent advice and a great learning tutorial. Am I then to assume I
could put a 700 MHZ cpu in this board? or an 800 as long as it's on
the 100mhz bus?

I recall seeing guys said they did this and that but an 800 would be
sweet.

Thanks alot for some real sound data and advice

Sam


On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:41:24 -0000, "Richard Hopkins"
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 >"sam owens" <sam.TakeThisOut@sam.com> wrote in message...
  >> I was under the impression that any CPU with a letter say, 600E as
  >> opposed to 600 wouldn't work in the BX6. Is that wrong?
 >
 >Yeah, that's wrong. You'll be fine with a (100MHz bus) Pentium!!! 600E, 700
 >and so-on, although you'll obviously need to find a Coppermine compatible
 >slot to socket converter if you end up with a Socket 370 CPU.
 >
 >It's the 133MHz bus CPU's (600B, 600EB, 667, 800EB, 933) that aren't quite
 >so well suited to these boards, although you'll probably be able to run one
 >if you have good PC133 memory and an AGP graphics card that'll handle the
 >out of spec bus speed.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"sam owens" wrote in message...
 > Excellent advice and a great learning tutorial. Am I then to assume I
 > could put a 700 MHZ cpu in this board? or an 800 as long as it's on
 > the 100mhz bus?

The 700E's were about the sweet spot of the 100MHz Coppermines. If you
wanted to overclock, most of them would go straight up to 133MHz FSB - and a
fair bit further in many cases. If you have PC133 memory this would probably
be an option for you, but I can't remember off the top of my head whether
the BX6 1.x had the necessary 1/4 PCI divider. I think it does but best to
check in the Softmenu first.

 > I recall seeing guys said they did this and that but an 800 would
 > be sweet.

Yep, you can do it. There was also a 1000MHz/100MHz FSB Coppermine as well,
and maybe even an 1100, if memory serves correct, although these will be
much harder to find than the 700's and 800's.
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:21:21 -0000, "Richard Hopkins"
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 >the BX6 1.x had the necessary 1/4 PCI divider. I think it does but best to
 >check in the Softmenu first.
 >

I looked in softmenu but didn't see anything as 1/4 all i saw was
66 1/2
100 1/3
133 1/3
112 1/3
83 1/2
75 1/2

The 600 CPU's seem a lot more pricey that a 700e I could get a 700e if
I move fast. Why would a 600 512kb bring more than a 700 256kb?

Are the 600 actually a more powerful CPU due to the cache. I know so
little

Thanks Mr Guru

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"sam owens" <sam.TakeThisOut@sam.com> wrote in message...
 > I looked in softmenu but didn't see anything as 1/4 all i saw was
 > 66 1/2
 > 100 1/3
 > 133 1/3
 > 112 1/3
 > 83 1/2
 > 75 1/2

Right, that's that one put to bed then. No 1/4 divider.

  > The 600 CPU's seem a lot more pricey that a 700e I could get a 700e
 > if I move fast. Why would a 600 512kb bring more than a 700 256kb?

Dunno, is the short answer. The 700E is the better CPU in every way. The
pricing may just reflect the fact that they're comparatively a lot less rare
than the other chip. Only thing to check is whether the 700E's you're
looking at are native Slot 1 or Socket 370. In the latter case you're also
going to need a Slotket and a heatsink/fan, which may or may not be included
in the price.

 > Are the 600 actually a more powerful CPU due to the cache. I
 > know so little

No, in practice, the 256K Coppermines are quite a bit quicker than the 512K
Katmais. The Coppermine may have half the amount of L2 cache, but it runs at
full CPU speed and is located on the CPU die itself. The cache on the Katmai
P!!! is offboard, located on the Slot 1 PCB, and, most significantly, only
runs at half the speed of the chip. When you add in the other optimisations
that Coppermine brought to party, as well as the .18 micron process, which
runs a lot cooler, it's not too hard to see why this CPU is the better
performer.
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For all your help I sent you an invite to GMail. I don't think I got
the email right though. Let me know if it shows up. If not I will send
another as I have your e-mail now

Sam

Those inexpensive 700e's shot right up as soon as I began to bid. I'll
keep trying and I may settle on a 550 which are very cheap.

I have to Sandra this 366 celeron




On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:22:21 -0000, "Richard Hopkins"
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 >"sam owens" <sam DeleteThis @sam.com> wrote in message...
  >> I looked in softmenu but didn't see anything as 1/4 all i saw was
  >> 66 1/2
  >> 100 1/3
  >> 133 1/3
  >> 112 1/3
  >> 83 1/2
  >> 75 1/2
 >
 >Right, that's that one put to bed then. No 1/4 divider.
 >
  > > The 600 CPU's seem a lot more pricey that a 700e I could get a 700e
  >> if I move fast. Why would a 600 512kb bring more than a 700 256kb?
 >
 >Dunno, is the short answer. The 700E is the better CPU in every way. The
 >pricing may just reflect the fact that they're comparatively a lot less rare
 >than the other chip. Only thing to check is whether the 700E's you're
 >looking at are native Slot 1 or Socket 370. In the latter case you're also
 >going to need a Slotket and a heatsink/fan, which may or may not be included
 >in the price.
 >
  >> Are the 600 actually a more powerful CPU due to the cache. I
  >> know so little
 >
 >No, in practice, the 256K Coppermines are quite a bit quicker than the 512K
 >Katmais. The Coppermine may have half the amount of L2 cache, but it runs at
 >full CPU speed and is located on the CPU die itself. The cache on the Katmai
 >P!!! is offboard, located on the Slot 1 PCB, and, most significantly, only
 >runs at half the speed of the chip. When you add in the other optimisations
 >that Coppermine brought to party, as well as the .18 micron process, which
 >runs a lot cooler, it's not too hard to see why this CPU is the better
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