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Since: Nov 16, 2003 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:52 am
Post subject: Bad sectors on a new drive Archived from groups: comp>sys>ibm>pc>hardware>storage (more info?)
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| I've just installed a Seagate Barraacuda 120Gb Hard Drive as a slave. After formating I ran Scan
Disk (Win 9  and it found Bad Sectors on the disk.
Is it normal for a new disk to have Bad Sectors or is this a faulty disk?
Should I just mark the bad sectors and start using the disk?
Thanks for your advice.
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Since: Nov 07, 2003 Posts: 23
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:52 am
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You should download SeaTools, copy it to floppy, and run full diagnostics.
"news.ntlworld.com" <nospam.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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| I've just installed a Seagate Barraacuda 120Gb Hard Drive as a slave. After
formating I ran Scan
| Disk (Win 9 and it found Bad Sectors on the disk.
| Is it normal for a new disk to have Bad Sectors or is this a faulty disk?
| Should I just mark the bad sectors and start using the disk?
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| Thanks for your advice.
| >> Stay informed about: Bad sectors on a new drive |
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Since: Nov 16, 2003 Posts: 303
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:56 am
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"news.ntlworld.com" <nospam.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> I've just installed a Seagate Barraacuda 120Gb Hard Drive as a slave.
After formating I ran Scan
> Disk (Win 9 and it found Bad Sectors on the disk.
> Is it normal for a new disk to have Bad Sectors or is this a faulty disk?
NO!
> Should I just mark the bad sectors and start using the disk?
Probably not.
What to do next is the question. It may be a bad HD or just some other
artifact. How much time do you want to spend finding out?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Bad sectors on a new drive |
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Since: Nov 10, 2003 Posts: 485
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:46 am
Post subject: Re: Bad sectors on a new drive [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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news.ntlworld.com wrote:
> I've just installed a Seagate Barraacuda 120Gb Hard Drive as a slave. After formating I ran Scan
> Disk (Win 9 and it found Bad Sectors on the disk.
> Is it normal for a new disk to have Bad Sectors or is this a faulty disk?
> Should I just mark the bad sectors and start using the disk?
>
> Thanks for your advice.
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Modern drives should remap bad sectors so you don't see them until the
point at which they overwhelm the spares available. Modern drives
also generally have S.M.A.R.T. capabilities which may be helpful in
determining what's wrong.
Seagate drives in my experience have been pretty good -- I would
suspect your cabling and/or power supply.
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After being targeted with gigabytes of trash by the "SWEN" worm, I have
concluded we must conceal our e-mail address. Our true address is the
mirror image of what you see before the "@" symbol. It's a shame such
steps are necessary. ...Charlie<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Bad sectors on a new drive |
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Since: Nov 10, 2003 Posts: 1906
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:32 am
Post subject: Re: Bad sectors on a new drive [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Ron Reaugh" <ron-reaugh.DeleteThis@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:PgTtb.70910$Ec1.3912789@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
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> "news.ntlworld.com" <nospam.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1a22101fff1028e7989684@text.news.ntlworld.com...
> > I've just installed a Seagate Barraacuda 120Gb Hard Drive as a slave.
> After formating I ran Scan
> > Disk (Win 9 and it found Bad Sectors on the disk.
> > Is it normal for a new disk to have Bad Sectors or is this a faulty disk?
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> NO!
NO! to what, imposter?
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> > Should I just mark the bad sectors and start using the disk?
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> Probably not.
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> What to do next is the question. It may be a bad HD or just some other
> artifact. How much time do you want to spend finding out?
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Since: Nov 16, 2003 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Bad sectors on a new drive [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Eric Gisin, ericg.DeleteThis@10.11.12.13 escribi=F3 en el mensaje, <bp9121013no@enews3=
..newsguy.com>, Sun, 16=20
Nov 2003 15:10:21 -0800
> You should download SeaTools, copy it to floppy, and run full diagnostics=
..
>=20
I just did that, and no problem was found.=20
Norton disk doctor (Norton Utility 2000) will not run on the disk, it state=
s "The disk may not be=20
configurated properly".<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Bad sectors on a new drive |
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Since: Nov 14, 2003 Posts: 93
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Bad sectors on a new drive [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:53:17 -0000, news.ntlworld.com
<nospam DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote:
>Eric Gisin, ericg DeleteThis @10.11.12.13 escribió en el mensaje, <bp9121013no DeleteThis @enews3.newsguy.com>, Sun, 16
>Nov 2003 15:10:21 -0800
>> You should download SeaTools, copy it to floppy, and run full diagnostics.
>>
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>I just did that, and no problem was found.
>Norton disk doctor (Norton Utility 2000) will not run on the disk, it
>states "The disk may not be
>configurated properly".
There is a serious Windows bug (the 32 GB problem), which Microsoft
gives a benign description. You may have run into the benign
description:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;243450" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;243450</a>
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Svend Olaf<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Bad sectors on a new drive |
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Since: Nov 16, 2003 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:47 am
Post subject: Re: Bad sectors on a new drive [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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news.ntlworld.com, nospam.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com escribi=F3 en el mensaje,=20
<MPG.1a22aae5e07cf58c989686.DeleteThis@text.news.ntlworld.com>, Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:53=
:17 -0000
> Eric Gisin, ericg.DeleteThis@10.11.12.13 escribi=F3 en el mensaje, <bp9121013no@enew=
s3.newsguy.com>, Sun, 16=20
> Nov 2003 15:10:21 -0800
> > You should download SeaTools, copy it to floppy, and run full diagnosti=
cs.
> >=20
>=20
> I just did that, and no problem was found.=20
> Norton disk doctor (Norton Utility 2000) will not run on the disk, it sta=
tes "The disk may not be=20
> configurated properly".
>=20
Im sorry I made a mistake, Scan Disk is reporting Bad clusters Not Bad Sect=
ors<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Bad sectors on a new drive |
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Since: Nov 10, 2003 Posts: 485
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:01 am
Post subject: Re: Bad sectors on a new drive [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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news.ntlworld.com wrote:
> news.ntlworld.com, nospam.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com escribió en el mensaje,
> <MPG.1a22aae5e07cf58c989686.TakeThisOut@text.news.ntlworld.com>, Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:53:17 -0000
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>>Eric Gisin, ericg.TakeThisOut@10.11.12.13 escribió en el mensaje, <bp9121013no.TakeThisOut@enews3.newsguy.com>, Sun, 16
>>Nov 2003 15:10:21 -0800
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>>>You should download SeaTools, copy it to floppy, and run full diagnostics.
>>>
>>
>>I just did that, and no problem was found.
>>Norton disk doctor (Norton Utility 2000) will not run on the disk, it states "The disk may not be
>>configurated properly".
>>
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> Im sorry I made a mistake, Scan Disk is reporting Bad clusters Not Bad Sectors
1) cabling
2) power supply
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After being targeted with gigabytes of trash by the "SWEN" worm, I have
concluded we must conceal our e-mail address. Our true address is the
mirror image of what you see before the "@" symbol. It's a shame such
steps are necessary. ...Charlie<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Bad sectors on a new drive |
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Since: Nov 16, 2003 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Bad sectors on a new drive [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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CJT, abujlehc.RemoveThis@prodigy.net escribi=F3 en el mensaje, <3FB95343.5010603@prodi=
gy.net>, Mon, 17 Nov 2003=20
23:01:16 GMT
> > Im sorry I made a mistake, Scan Disk is reporting Bad clusters Not Bad =
Sectors
>=20
> 1) cabling
> 2) power supply
>=20
The bad clusters are allways found starting with cluster 308592.
If it was cabling or power supply would the erors not be more random?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Bad sectors on a new drive |
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Since: Nov 10, 2003 Posts: 1906
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:24 pm
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"Svend Olaf Mikkelsen" <svolaf RemoveThis @inet.uni2.dk> wrote in message news:3fb9e9d4.8738870@dtext.news.tele.dk...
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:53:17 -0000, news.ntlworld.com <nospam RemoveThis @ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >Eric Gisin, ericg RemoveThis @10.11.12.13 escribió en el mensaje, <bp9121013no RemoveThis @enews3.newsguy.com>, Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:10:21 -0800
> >> You should download SeaTools, copy it to floppy, and run full diagnostics.
> >>
> >
> > I just did that, and no problem was found.
> > Norton disk doctor (Norton Utility 2000) will not run on the disk,
> > it states "The disk may not be configurated properly".
>
> There is a serious Windows bug (the 32 GB problem), which Microsoft
> gives a benign description.
By benign, did you mean that bullshit where they try to shove off their
own stupidity on to Phoenix for offering different CHS translations
(that is limited to 8GB) when that obviously can't have anything to do
with problems that concern addressing above 32 GB?
> You may have run into the benign description:
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;243450</font" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;243450</font</a>>
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Since: Nov 08, 2003 Posts: 122
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:35 pm
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Shouldn't happen. Send it back.
"news.ntlworld.com" <nospam DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> I've just installed a Seagate Barraacuda 120Gb Hard Drive as a slave.
After formating I ran Scan
> Disk (Win 9 and it found Bad Sectors on the disk.
> Is it normal for a new disk to have Bad Sectors or is this a faulty disk?
> Should I just mark the bad sectors and start using the disk?
>
> Thanks for your advice.
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Since: Nov 09, 2003 Posts: 2385
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:48 am
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Papa <bikingis.RemoveThis@my.fun> wrote in message
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> Shouldn't happen. Send it back.
And will likely see the same problem with the replacement.
> "news.ntlworld.com" <nospam.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1a22101fff1028e7989684@text.news.ntlworld.com...
> > I've just installed a Seagate Barraacuda 120Gb Hard Drive as a slave.
> After formating I ran Scan
> > Disk (Win 9 and it found Bad Sectors on the disk.
> > Is it normal for a new disk to have Bad Sectors or is this a faulty disk?
> > Should I just mark the bad sectors and start using the disk?
> >
> > Thanks for your advice.
> >
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Since: Nov 14, 2003 Posts: 93
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:48 pm
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:24:37 +0100, "Folkert Rienstra"
<see_reply-to RemoveThis @myweb.nl> wrote:
>> There is a serious Windows bug (the 32 GB problem), which Microsoft
>> gives a benign description.
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>By benign, did you mean that bullshit where they try to shove off their
>own stupidity on to Phoenix for offering different CHS translations
>(that is limited to 8GB) when that obviously can't have anything to do
>with problems that concern addressing above 32 GB?
I mean that they mention that Scandisk reports errors, but not that
all data which should be written more than 32 GB into the disk are
written at the beginning of the disk.
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