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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:35 am
Post subject: New Build Problems - Q6600 / GA-P35-DSP3
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New build - spent 4 days on it... had it what I thought was done until I
started adding usb devices - once I add more than 1 it will hang at the
Testing Memory prompt - usually getting to "Testin " - then pause for 4-5
seconds and either recycle/reboot or go into vista which blows up and
reboots the machine.

Here are the components:

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable 2, Ultra
Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail

XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI
Supported Video Card - Retail

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model
BX80562Q6600 - Retail

Rosewill RX850-S-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 850W Power Supply - Retail

(2) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail

Also - I have 2 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial
ATA150 Hard Drives - in RAID 1 on GB SATA Raid ports.

The memory populates all 4 slots for 4gb.

I have tried every combo of bios settings (using FCool I can think of - does
not matter - once those usb devices are plugged in it is done. Could it be
the MB, memory or PSU? Which would you guess?

Sometimes (keyword here - I can get it into Vista (at stock, 3G and 3.2
even) and plug in the USB devices - all work fine... until it reboots.

I have bumped all voltages across the board. Any thoughts please? Even
without any usb devices plugged in it still is flaky - even with mem running
at 800 instead of 1066.

Thanks in advance for any help...

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:27 pm
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'Withheld at Owners Request' wrote:
| New build - spent 4 days on it... had it what I thought was done until I
| started adding usb devices - once I add more than 1 it will hang at the
| Testing Memory prompt - usually getting to "Testin " - then pause for 4-5
| seconds and either recycle/reboot or go into vista which blows up and
| reboots the machine.
|
| Here are the components:
|
| GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable 2, Ultra
| Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail
|
| XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI
| Supported Video Card - Retail
|
| Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
Model
| BX80562Q6600 - Retail
|
| Rosewill RX850-S-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 850W Power Supply - Retail
|
| (2) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2
8500)
| Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail
|
| Also - I have 2 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM
Serial
| ATA150 Hard Drives - in RAID 1 on GB SATA Raid ports.
|
| The memory populates all 4 slots for 4gb.
|
| I have tried every combo of bios settings (using FCool I can think of - does
| not matter - once those usb devices are plugged in it is done. Could it be
| the MB, memory or PSU? Which would you guess?
|
| Sometimes (keyword here - I can get it into Vista (at stock, 3G and 3.2
| even) and plug in the USB devices - all work fine... until it reboots.
|
| I have bumped all voltages across the board. Any thoughts please? Even
| without any usb devices plugged in it still is flaky - even with mem
running
| at 800 instead of 1066.
|
| Thanks in advance for any help...
_____

Well, pretty clearly this is a USB problem. Changing the BIOS settings,
'bumping voltages', lowering memory speed, etc. is just flailing around.
You must first diagnose the problem, THEN make APPROPRIATE changes.

Have you ever built a system before? You must reset your entire system to
default, and then very methodically check the system, make only ONE change
at a time, then restore that change and try another. It helps to have SOME
idea of what is likely wrong. In your case it is almost assuredly NOT

* the operating system installation
* the CPU
* any cards in slots
* voltage settings
* memory speed settings

The problem COULD be with motherboard or the USB devices attached or a USB
cable or a USB hub (if one is used.)

Get someone with more experience to help you. Otherwise you are on the way
to damaging your system.

Some suggestions:

* Try with only one memory module (and swap out that memory module with each
of the other three.)

* Use the Vista boot function to boot into safe mode.

* Use the Vista boot function to boot in safe mode with logging.

* Use the Vista boot function to boot with logging.

* Use a system health monitor to check the voltages with and without the USB
devices plugged in.

* Boot with only one USB device connected, then try that for EACH USB
device.

* Boot with only two USB devices connected, then try that fore each pair of
USB devices.

Your choice of components seems a bit strange; the 850 watt power supply is
vastly more than you need with just a GeForce 8600 GT display adapter, 4
GBytes of memory is more than you can use with a 32-bit Vista installation,
a 2 X 150 GByte 10,000 rpm RAID 1 seems like a lot of money to spend for
something that will basically only improve load times, etc.

Get someone more knowledge to help you on-site. Diagnosing your problem
should be very easy sitting in front of your system, but much more difficult
to do via newsgroup postings. I'd guess that some of the people in this
newsgroup could, if sitting in front of your system diagnose the problem in
an hour or less - but that ability comes with years of system building and
experimentation (or equivalent experience in other areas of electronics or
engineering.)

You should post additional information to help diagnose the problem
at-a-distance:

* Vista version
* Identification and description of EACH USB device
* Results of any one-change-at-a-time tests you make
* Voltages from a system health monitor applet

Phil Weldon





"Withheld at Owners Request" <noaddr.DeleteThis@isp.com> wrote in message
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| New build - spent 4 days on it... had it what I thought was done until I
| started adding usb devices - once I add more than 1 it will hang at the
| Testing Memory prompt - usually getting to "Testin " - then pause for 4-5
| seconds and either recycle/reboot or go into vista which blows up and
| reboots the machine.
|
| Here are the components:
|
| GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable 2, Ultra
| Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail
|
| XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI
| Supported Video Card - Retail
|
| Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
Model
| BX80562Q6600 - Retail
|
| Rosewill RX850-S-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 850W Power Supply - Retail
|
| (2) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2
8500)
| Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail
|
| Also - I have 2 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM
Serial
| ATA150 Hard Drives - in RAID 1 on GB SATA Raid ports.
|
| The memory populates all 4 slots for 4gb.
|
| I have tried every combo of bios settings (using FCool I can think of - does
| not matter - once those usb devices are plugged in it is done. Could it be
| the MB, memory or PSU? Which would you guess?
|
| Sometimes (keyword here - I can get it into Vista (at stock, 3G and 3.2
| even) and plug in the USB devices - all work fine... until it reboots.
|
| I have bumped all voltages across the board. Any thoughts please? Even
| without any usb devices plugged in it still is flaky - even with mem
running
| at 800 instead of 1066.
|
| Thanks in advance for any help...
|
|

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:34 pm
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Withheld at Owners Request wrote:
> New build - spent 4 days on it... had it what I thought was done until I
> started adding usb devices - once I add more than 1 it will hang at the
> Testing Memory prompt - usually getting to "Testin " - then pause for 4-5
> seconds and either recycle/reboot or go into vista which blows up and
> reboots the machine.
>
> Here are the components:
>
> GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable 2, Ultra
> Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail
>
> XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI
> Supported Video Card - Retail
>
> Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model
> BX80562Q6600 - Retail
>
> Rosewill RX850-S-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 850W Power Supply - Retail
>
> (2) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
> Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail
>
> Also - I have 2 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial
> ATA150 Hard Drives - in RAID 1 on GB SATA Raid ports.
>
> The memory populates all 4 slots for 4gb.
>
> I have tried every combo of bios settings (using FCool I can think of - does
> not matter - once those usb devices are plugged in it is done. Could it be
> the MB, memory or PSU? Which would you guess?
>
> Sometimes (keyword here - I can get it into Vista (at stock, 3G and 3.2
> even) and plug in the USB devices - all work fine... until it reboots.
>
> I have bumped all voltages across the board. Any thoughts please? Even
> without any usb devices plugged in it still is flaky - even with mem running
> at 800 instead of 1066.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help...

If you drop to 2x1GB, instead of 4x1GB, are the symptoms the same ?

Paul
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:20 pm
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"Paul" <nospam DeleteThis @needed.com> wrote in message news:fllu1s$q7$1@aioe.org...
> Withheld at Owners Request wrote:
>> New build - spent 4 days on it... had it what I thought was done until I
>> started adding usb devices - once I add more than 1 it will hang at the
>> Testing Memory prompt - usually getting to "Testin " - then pause for 4-5
>> seconds and either recycle/reboot or go into vista which blows up and
>> reboots the machine.
>>
>> Here are the components:
>>
>> GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable 2, Ultra
>> Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail
>>
>> XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI
>> Supported Video Card - Retail
>>
>> Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
>> Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
>>
>> Rosewill RX850-S-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 850W Power Supply - Retail
>>
>> (2) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2
>> 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail
>>
>> Also - I have 2 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM
>> Serial ATA150 Hard Drives - in RAID 1 on GB SATA Raid ports.
>>
>> The memory populates all 4 slots for 4gb.
>>
>> I have tried every combo of bios settings (using FCool I can think of -
>> does not matter - once those usb devices are plugged in it is done. Could
>> it be the MB, memory or PSU? Which would you guess?
>>
>> Sometimes (keyword here - I can get it into Vista (at stock, 3G and 3.2
>> even) and plug in the USB devices - all work fine... until it reboots.
>>
>> I have bumped all voltages across the board. Any thoughts please? Even
>> without any usb devices plugged in it still is flaky - even with mem
>> running at 800 instead of 1066.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help...
>
> If you drop to 2x1GB, instead of 4x1GB, are the symptoms the same ?
>
> Paul

I will try that this evening...
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:27 pm
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"Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed.RemoveThis@example.com> wrote in message
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> 'Withheld at Owners Request' wrote:
> | New build - spent 4 days on it... had it what I thought was done until I
> | started adding usb devices - once I add more than 1 it will hang at the
> | Testing Memory prompt - usually getting to "Testin " - then pause for
> 4-5
> | seconds and either recycle/reboot or go into vista which blows up and
> | reboots the machine.
> |
> | Here are the components:
> |
> | GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable 2,
> Ultra
> | Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail
> |
> | XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
> SLI
> | Supported Video Card - Retail
> |
> | Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
> Model
> | BX80562Q6600 - Retail
> |
> | Rosewill RX850-S-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 850W Power Supply - Retail
> |
> | (2) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2
> 8500)
> | Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail
> |
> | Also - I have 2 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM
> Serial
> | ATA150 Hard Drives - in RAID 1 on GB SATA Raid ports.
> |
> | The memory populates all 4 slots for 4gb.
> |
> | I have tried every combo of bios settings (using FCool I can think of -
> does
> | not matter - once those usb devices are plugged in it is done. Could it
> be
> | the MB, memory or PSU? Which would you guess?
> |
> | Sometimes (keyword here - I can get it into Vista (at stock, 3G and 3.2
> | even) and plug in the USB devices - all work fine... until it reboots.
> |
> | I have bumped all voltages across the board. Any thoughts please? Even
> | without any usb devices plugged in it still is flaky - even with mem
> running
> | at 800 instead of 1066.
> |
> | Thanks in advance for any help...
> _____
>
> Well, pretty clearly this is a USB problem. Changing the BIOS settings,
> 'bumping voltages', lowering memory speed, etc. is just flailing around.
> You must first diagnose the problem, THEN make APPROPRIATE changes.
>
> Have you ever built a system before? You must reset your entire system
> to
> default, and then very methodically check the system, make only ONE change
> at a time, then restore that change and try another. It helps to have
> SOME
> idea of what is likely wrong. In your case it is almost assuredly NOT
>
> * the operating system installation
> * the CPU
> * any cards in slots
> * voltage settings
> * memory speed settings
>
> The problem COULD be with motherboard or the USB devices attached or a USB
> cable or a USB hub (if one is used.)
>
> Get someone with more experience to help you. Otherwise you are on the
> way
> to damaging your system.
>
> Some suggestions:
>
> * Try with only one memory module (and swap out that memory module with
> each
> of the other three.)
>
> * Use the Vista boot function to boot into safe mode.
>
> * Use the Vista boot function to boot in safe mode with logging.
>
> * Use the Vista boot function to boot with logging.
>
> * Use a system health monitor to check the voltages with and without the
> USB
> devices plugged in.
>
> * Boot with only one USB device connected, then try that for EACH USB
> device.
>
> * Boot with only two USB devices connected, then try that fore each pair
> of
> USB devices.
>
> Your choice of components seems a bit strange; the 850 watt power supply
> is
> vastly more than you need with just a GeForce 8600 GT display adapter, 4
> GBytes of memory is more than you can use with a 32-bit Vista
> installation,
> a 2 X 150 GByte 10,000 rpm RAID 1 seems like a lot of money to spend for
> something that will basically only improve load times, etc.
>
> Get someone more knowledge to help you on-site. Diagnosing your problem
> should be very easy sitting in front of your system, but much more
> difficult
> to do via newsgroup postings. I'd guess that some of the people in this
> newsgroup could, if sitting in front of your system diagnose the problem
> in
> an hour or less - but that ability comes with years of system building and
> experimentation (or equivalent experience in other areas of electronics or
> engineering.)
>
> You should post additional information to help diagnose the problem
> at-a-distance:
>
> * Vista version
> * Identification and description of EACH USB device
> * Results of any one-change-at-a-time tests you make
> * Voltages from a system health monitor applet
>
> Phil Weldon
> > |
> |
>
>

Thanks... this is probably the 10th or 11th PC I have built in the past 10
years .. last was a AMD X2/3800 last year.

I use this for HEAVY Photoshop and video work - I set up Vista 64 to get
access to all 4gb - I plan on installing (4) 500gb SATA drives on the 2nd
SATA Controller in an Intel Matrix raid for photo storage/archival needs.
Yes 850 for a psu is overkill but it was on sale at newegg for $120 and
highly rated.

My last PC has 6 RAID 5 drives in it, 2 raid 1 drives (system/OS) and 4gb
ram as well - it has served me well for 2 years... I plan on moving it to a
perm storage/backup machine.

I will post more as I get back to it this weekend.. thanks for input - much
appreaciated.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:32 pm
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"Paul" <nospam.RemoveThis@needed.com> wrote in message news:fllu1s$q7$1@aioe.org...
> Withheld at Owners Request wrote:
>> New build - spent 4 days on it... had it what I thought was done until I
>> started adding usb devices - once I add more than 1 it will hang at the
>> Testing Memory prompt - usually getting to "Testin " - then pause for 4-5
>> seconds and either recycle/reboot or go into vista which blows up and
>> reboots the machine.
>>
>> Here are the components:
>>
>> GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable 2, Ultra
>> Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail
>>
>> XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI
>> Supported Video Card - Retail
>>
>> Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
>> Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
>>
>> Rosewill RX850-S-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 850W Power Supply - Retail
>>
>> (2) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2
>> 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail
>>
>> Also - I have 2 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM
>> Serial ATA150 Hard Drives - in RAID 1 on GB SATA Raid ports.
>>
>> The memory populates all 4 slots for 4gb.
>>
>> I have tried every combo of bios settings (using FCool I can think of -
>> does not matter - once those usb devices are plugged in it is done. Could
>> it be the MB, memory or PSU?dell monitor Which would you guess?
>>
>> Sometimes (keyword here - I can get it into Vista (at stock, 3G and 3.2
>> even) and plug in the USB devices - all work fine... until it reboots.
>>
>> I have bumped all voltages across the board. Any thoughts please? Even
>> without any usb devices plugged in it still is flaky - even with mem
>> running at 800 instead of 1066.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help...
>
> If you drop to 2x1GB, instead of 4x1GB, are the symptoms the same ?
>
> Paul

BTW: something I noticed last night - I have a powered Belkin 8 port hub
plugged in w/ 5 devices on it (3 printers, wacom tablet and dell monitor
hub) - when the PC boots and gets to where it posts 'Testing Memory' that is
when the device leds on the Belkin light up - as soon as they light up - the
'Testing Memory' line stops and only gets to showing 'Test' or 'Testin' -
then aft a 4 second or so pause - the lights go out and the "Testing Memory
...." line completes. It appears that the board is initializing the USB
headers or something at that point in the post.

Once vista fires up (when it does) then the device ports re-lite/glow shows
the devices online.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:04 pm
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'Withheld at Owners Request' wrote:
| BTW: something I noticed last night - I have a powered Belkin 8 port hub
| plugged in w/ 5 devices on it (3 printers, wacom tablet and dell monitor
| hub) - when the PC boots and gets to where it posts 'Testing Memory' that
is
| when the device leds on the Belkin light up - as soon as they light up -
the
| 'Testing Memory' line stops and only gets to showing 'Test' or 'Testin' -
| then aft a 4 second or so pause - the lights go out and the "Testing
Memory
| ..." line completes. It appears that the board is initializing the USB
| headers or something at that point in the post.
|
| Once vista fires up (when it does) then the device ports re-lite/glow
shows
| the devices online.
_____

Well, there you are - you've diagnosed your problem. Boot the system
without the hub. If the boot is normal, return the Belkin device and avoid
Belkin products in the future (always overpriced, and sometime faulty,
evidently.)

Phil Weldon

"Withheld at Owners Request" <noaddr.DeleteThis@isp.com> wrote in message
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|
| "Paul" <nospam.DeleteThis@needed.com> wrote in message news:fllu1s$q7$1@aioe.org...
| > Withheld at Owners Request wrote:
| >> New build - spent 4 days on it... had it what I thought was done until
I
| >> started adding usb devices - once I add more than 1 it will hang at the
| >> Testing Memory prompt - usually getting to "Testin " - then pause for
4-5
| >> seconds and either recycle/reboot or go into vista which blows up and
| >> reboots the machine.
| >>
| >> Here are the components:
| >>
| >> GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable 2,
Ultra
| >> Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail
| >>
| >> XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
SLI
| >> Supported Video Card - Retail
| >>
| >> Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
| >> Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
| >>
| >> Rosewill RX850-S-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 850W Power Supply -
Retail
| >>
| >> (2) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2
| >> 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail
| >>
| >> Also - I have 2 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM
| >> Serial ATA150 Hard Drives - in RAID 1 on GB SATA Raid ports.
| >>
| >> The memory populates all 4 slots for 4gb.
| >>
| >> I have tried every combo of bios settings (using FCool I can think of -
| >> does not matter - once those usb devices are plugged in it is done.
Could
| >> it be the MB, memory or PSU?dell monitor Which would you guess?
| >>
| >> Sometimes (keyword here - I can get it into Vista (at stock, 3G and 3.2
| >> even) and plug in the USB devices - all work fine... until it reboots.
| >>
| >> I have bumped all voltages across the board. Any thoughts please? Even
| >> without any usb devices plugged in it still is flaky - even with mem
| >> running at 800 instead of 1066.
| >>
| >> Thanks in advance for any help...
| >
| > If you drop to 2x1GB, instead of 4x1GB, are the symptoms the same ?
| >
| > Paul
|
| BTW: something I noticed last night - I have a powered Belkin 8 port hub
| plugged in w/ 5 devices on it (3 printers, wacom tablet and dell monitor
| hub) - when the PC boots and gets to where it posts 'Testing Memory' that
is
| when the device leds on the Belkin light up - as soon as they light up -
the
| 'Testing Memory' line stops and only gets to showing 'Test' or 'Testin' -
| then aft a 4 second or so pause - the lights go out and the "Testing
Memory
| ..." line completes. It appears that the board is initializing the USB
| headers or something at that point in the post.
|
| Once vista fires up (when it does) then the device ports re-lite/glow
shows
| the devices online.
|
|
|
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:02 pm
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Phil Weldon wrote:
> 'Withheld at Owners Request' wrote:
> | BTW: something I noticed last night - I have a powered Belkin 8 port hub
> | plugged in w/ 5 devices on it (3 printers, wacom tablet and dell monitor
> | hub) - when the PC boots and gets to where it posts 'Testing Memory' that
> is
> | when the device leds on the Belkin light up - as soon as they light up -
> the
> | 'Testing Memory' line stops and only gets to showing 'Test' or 'Testin' -
> | then aft a 4 second or so pause - the lights go out and the "Testing
> Memory
> | ..." line completes. It appears that the board is initializing the USB
> | headers or something at that point in the post.
> |
> | Once vista fires up (when it does) then the device ports re-lite/glow
> shows
> | the devices online.
> _____
>
> Well, there you are - you've diagnosed your problem. Boot the system
> without the hub. If the boot is normal, return the Belkin device and avoid
> Belkin products in the future (always overpriced, and sometime faulty,
> evidently.)
>
> Phil Weldon
>

Some early BIOS, don't handle the planning of the address map very
well. It seems to show up for the 4GB memory configuration case.
Usually, a later BIOS fixes it. I'm really surprised that 4GB of
RAM (or more) isn't a test case for the BIOS testers, before they
release a BIOS.

On one Asus motherboard, the BIOS used to report "USB overcurrent",
and that seemed to be an overlap between USB resources, and what
the machine thought was addresses corresponding to system RAM.
This case could be something similar.

Stupid issues usually stop on a motherboard, after about the
fifth BIOS release.

Paul
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:59 pm
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"Withheld at Owners Request" <noaddr.DeleteThis@isp.com> wrote in message
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> New build - spent 4 days on it... had it what I thought was done until
> I started adding usb devices - once I add more than 1 it will hang at
> the Testing Memory prompt - usually getting to "Testin " - then pause
> for 4-5 seconds and either recycle/reboot or go into vista which blows
> up and reboots the machine.
>
> Here are the components:
>
> GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable 2,
> Ultra Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail
>
> XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
> SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
>
> Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
> Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
>
> Rosewill RX850-S-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 850W Power Supply -
> Retail
>
> (2) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2
> 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail
>
> Also - I have 2 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM
> Serial ATA150 Hard Drives - in RAID 1 on GB SATA Raid ports.
>
> The memory populates all 4 slots for 4gb.
>
> I have tried every combo of bios settings (using FCool I can think of -
> does not matter - once those usb devices are plugged in it is done.
> Could it be the MB, memory or PSU? Which would you guess?
>
> Sometimes (keyword here - I can get it into Vista (at stock, 3G and
> 3.2 even) and plug in the USB devices - all work fine... until it
> reboots.
>
> I have bumped all voltages across the board. Any thoughts please? Even
> without any usb devices plugged in it still is flaky - even with mem
> running at 800 instead of 1066.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help...
>

What happens if there is no overclocking, everything at default ?
Will it run Memtest at default speed (at least 2 passes) ?

Eric

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:59 pm
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"Eric Parker" <newsnet DeleteThis @thedrossericparker.plus.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Withheld at Owners Request" <noaddr DeleteThis @isp.com> wrote in message
> news:o_ednYXfm_yvz-PanZ2dnUVZ_oimnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> New build - spent 4 days on it... had it what I thought was done until I
>> started adding usb devices - once I add more than 1 it will hang at the
>> Testing Memory prompt - usually getting to "Testin " - then pause for 4-5
>> seconds and either recycle/reboot or go into vista which blows up and
>> reboots the machine.
>>
>> Here are the components:
>>
>> GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable 2, Ultra
>> Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail
>>
>> XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI
>> Supported Video Card - Retail
>>
>> Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
>> Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
>>
>> Rosewill RX850-S-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 850W Power Supply - Retail
>>
>> (2) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2
>> 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail
>>
>> Also - I have 2 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM
>> Serial ATA150 Hard Drives - in RAID 1 on GB SATA Raid ports.
>>
>> The memory populates all 4 slots for 4gb.
>>
>> I have tried every combo of bios settings (using FCool I can think of -
>> does not matter - once those usb devices are plugged in it is done. Could
>> it be the MB, memory or PSU? Which would you guess?
>>
>> Sometimes (keyword here - I can get it into Vista (at stock, 3G and 3.2
>> even) and plug in the USB devices - all work fine... until it reboots.
>>
>> I have bumped all voltages across the board. Any thoughts please? Even
>> without any usb devices plugged in it still is flaky - even with mem
>> running at 800 instead of 1066.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help...
>>
>
> What happens if there is no overclocking, everything at default ?
> Will it run Memtest at default speed (at least 2 passes) ?
>
> Eric
>
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ONCE I get into vista I can run prime95/orthos etc with no errors - even
with 3g OC
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:14 pm
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"Paul" <nospam.RemoveThis@needed.com> wrote in message
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> Phil Weldon wrote:

>
> Some early BIOS, don't handle the planning of the address
> map very
> well. It seems to show up for the 4GB memory configuration
> case.
> Usually, a later BIOS fixes it. I'm really surprised that
> 4GB of
> RAM (or more) isn't a test case for the BIOS testers,
> before they
> release a BIOS.
>
> On one Asus motherboard, the BIOS used to report "USB
> overcurrent",
> and that seemed to be an overlap between USB resources,
> and what
> the machine thought was addresses corresponding to system
> RAM.
> This case could be something similar.
>
> Stupid issues usually stop on a motherboard, after about
> the
> fifth BIOS release.
>
> Paul

I have a new GA-P35-DS4 with Corsair (2GB)
CM2X1024-6400-C4DHX, default 5-5-5-18 @ 2.1v. Decided to
update BIOS to latest F9 version.
Used memtest86 v1.7 to test the memory and got errors.
Found others that with Gigabyte MB and BIOS version F9 had
same problems.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=142340&page=74
Went back to BIOS version F8 and now the memory works fine
even at 4-4-4-12 @ 2.1v

F9 BIOS was the fifth release on the Gigabyte list, so
hopefully the 6th (F10) will be better.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:28 pm
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"Withheld at Owners Request" <noaddr.RemoveThis@isp.com> wrote in message
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> New build - spent 4 days on it... had it what I thought was done until I
> started adding usb devices - once I add more than 1 it will hang at the
> Testing Memory prompt - usually getting to "Testin " - then pause for 4-5
> seconds and either recycle/reboot or go into vista which blows up and
> reboots the machine.
>
> Here are the components:
>
> GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable 2, Ultra
> Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail
>
> XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI
> Supported Video Card - Retail
>
> Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
> Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
>
> Rosewill RX850-S-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 850W Power Supply - Retail
>
> (2) Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2
> 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA1065 - Retail
>
> Also - I have 2 - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM
> Serial ATA150 Hard Drives - in RAID 1 on GB SATA Raid ports.
>
> The memory populates all 4 slots for 4gb.
>
> I have tried every combo of bios settings (using FCool I can think of - does
> not matter - once those usb devices are plugged in it is done. Could it be
> the MB, memory or PSU? Which would you guess?
>
> Sometimes (keyword here - I can get it into Vista (at stock, 3G and 3.2
> even) and plug in the USB devices - all work fine... until it reboots.
>
> I have bumped all voltages across the board. Any thoughts please? Even
> without any usb devices plugged in it still is flaky - even with mem
> running at 800 instead of 1066.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help...
>

Update:

Local Compusa had a GOB sale on Friday - I picked up the Asus P35 5KB AP
(has onboard wifi/access point) mb for $175 ..basically it is the same
design at its core as the Giga-Byte... I moved everything over to it -
including the RAID array - it booted fine first boot, recognized the RAID
array and loaded windows... I updated the firmware on it to latest -
installed all drivers - removed gigabyte eztune etc then set it to 9x333
3.01ghz w/ 1066 memory at 5-5-5-15 2T and it booted flawlessly - at
30degrees cpu temp under light load. Ran Orthos and prime95 against all 4
cores for an hour no errors - went to 48 degrees...

Gigabyte board goes bckto newegg tomorrow.

Here is what I noticed: The Asus board on post pauses w/ a 'Intializing USB
headers' message for about 3 seconds then goes into the memory test, then
boots. I think there is something wrong on the GigaByte bios that is not
allowing enough time between the usb init and memory test .. the fact that
the usb lights come on during the mem test on it is telling - on the Asus
board they come on and go off before the memory test begins.
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