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Since: Feb 05, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 9:09 pm
Post subject: CD ROM power?
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All,
I have posted this problem before, and had some feedback, but no joy on a
resolution....
I built a pc for my kids suing kit that was out of my old box. Once built
all seemed fine, I installed XP pro....set up accounts etc, then tried
installing SP1 from cd.
It is then that I noticed that the cdrom seemed to 'die' after trying to
access files on the disc. I swapped the disc for a differant disc, and
still the same issue.
I then swapped the molex supplies, swapped drives, then changed ribbons,
then changed controller, then master/slave etc....all to no avail.
The cdrom seemed to 'lack power' to drive itself?
So, yesterday, I swapped the box out again, it is now a 350watt supply, so
power surely would not be an issue?
Or, is it memory...The machine in question only has approx 148meg of pc133
on it. Other hardware includes a PIII 550, 20gig HDD, Compaq cdrom,
creative live sound, gforce mx440...
Any help or ideas on getting this problem fixed would be greatly
appreciated.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 11:33 pm
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"CeNo" <seanoevil RemoveThis @NOMORESPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It is then that I noticed that the cdrom seemed to 'die' after trying to
> access files on the disc. I swapped the disc for a differant disc, and
> still the same issue.
>
> I then swapped the molex supplies, swapped drives, then changed ribbons,
> then changed controller, then master/slave etc....all to no avail.
>
[...]
350W is plenty for that system. You say you've swapped drives - i.e. you've
tried a known-working cdrom drive? Or you swapped the same drive to a
different position? It sounds like the drive is faulty to me.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 1:52 am
Post subject: Re: CD ROM power? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Tony A." <you.dont RemoveThis @need.to.know> wrote in message
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> "CeNo" <seanoevil RemoveThis @NOMORESPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OFvUb.130$KL6.0@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> [...]
> > It is then that I noticed that the cdrom seemed to 'die' after trying to
> > access files on the disc. I swapped the disc for a differant disc, and
> > still the same issue.
> >
> > I then swapped the molex supplies, swapped drives, then changed ribbons,
> > then changed controller, then master/slave etc....all to no avail.
> >
> [...]
> 350W is plenty for that system. You say you've swapped drives - i.e.
you've
> tried a known-working cdrom drive? Or you swapped the same drive to a
> different position? It sounds like the drive is faulty to me.
>
> Tony
>
> Tony,
Sorry mate, swapped for a brand new, working drive!
Any ideas?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:27 am
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"CeNo" <seanoevil.TakeThisOut@NOMORESPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry mate, swapped for a brand new, working drive!
>
> Any ideas?
>
Hmm, nothing specific, you've tried all the obvious stuff. Long shots, if
you haven't tried them already - flash your bios to the latest version,
update your ide drivers to the latest, disable dma for the cdrom.
You could also get hold of a knoppix cd - if you boot from the knoppix cd
and linux doesn't display similar behaviour, then at least you know for sure
it's some weird software problem in windows.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:03 pm
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"CeNo" <seanoevil.RemoveThis@NOMORESPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> All,
>
> I have posted this problem before, and had some feedback, but no joy on a
> resolution....
>
> I built a pc for my kids suing kit that was out of my old box. Once built
> all seemed fine, I installed XP pro....set up accounts etc, then tried
> installing SP1 from cd.
>
> It is then that I noticed that the cdrom seemed to 'die' after trying to
> access files on the disc. I swapped the disc for a differant disc, and
> still the same issue.
>
> I then swapped the molex supplies, swapped drives, then changed ribbons,
> then changed controller, then master/slave etc....all to no avail.
>
> The cdrom seemed to 'lack power' to drive itself?
>
> So, yesterday, I swapped the box out again, it is now a 350watt supply, so
> power surely would not be an issue?
>
> Or, is it memory...The machine in question only has approx 148meg of pc133
> on it. Other hardware includes a PIII 550, 20gig HDD, Compaq cdrom,
> creative live sound, gforce mx440...
Hi
I would hazzard a guess and say it's your memory. Stick another 128MB in for
about £15-£20 uk to test. XP needs a lot of memory (512MB +) to work well
anyways. I'm using 156MB of 512MB total as I type!  )
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:13 pm
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In article <kOzUb.552$u47.132@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
seanoevil RemoveThis @NOMORESPAMhotmail.com says...
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> "Tony A." <you.dont RemoveThis @need.to.know> wrote in message
> news:iQxUb.17991$JL4.145781@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net...
> > "CeNo" <seanoevil RemoveThis @NOMORESPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:OFvUb.130$KL6.0@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > [...]
> > > It is then that I noticed that the cdrom seemed to 'die' after trying to
> > > access files on the disc. I swapped the disc for a differant disc, and
> > > still the same issue.
> > >
> > > I then swapped the molex supplies, swapped drives, then changed ribbons,
> > > then changed controller, then master/slave etc....all to no avail.
> > >
> > [...]
> > 350W is plenty for that system. You say you've swapped drives - i.e.
> you've
> > tried a known-working cdrom drive? Or you swapped the same drive to a
> > different position? It sounds like the drive is faulty to me.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > Tony,
>
> Sorry mate, swapped for a brand new, working drive!
>
> Any ideas?
>
TRy installing motherboard chipset drivers. Could be a DMA issue.
--
Conor
"The vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world.
And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:14 am
Post subject: Re: CD ROM power? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Just thinking, what version of windows was on it before you "rebuilt"
it for the kids. If it were windows 95, some of the cd roms of that
era will not work with 98 or newer operating systems
Slower
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 18:09:56 -0000, "CeNo"
<seanoevil RemoveThis @NOMORESPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>All,
>
>I have posted this problem before, and had some feedback, but no joy on a
>resolution....
>
>I built a pc for my kids suing kit that was out of my old box. Once built
>all seemed fine, I installed XP pro....set up accounts etc, then tried
>installing SP1 from cd.
>
>It is then that I noticed that the cdrom seemed to 'die' after trying to
>access files on the disc. I swapped the disc for a differant disc, and
>still the same issue.
>
>I then swapped the molex supplies, swapped drives, then changed ribbons,
>then changed controller, then master/slave etc....all to no avail.
>
>The cdrom seemed to 'lack power' to drive itself?
>
>So, yesterday, I swapped the box out again, it is now a 350watt supply, so
>power surely would not be an issue?
>
>Or, is it memory...The machine in question only has approx 148meg of pc133
>on it. Other hardware includes a PIII 550, 20gig HDD, Compaq cdrom,
>creative live sound, gforce mx440...
>
>Any help or ideas on getting this problem fixed would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Sean.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 7:32 pm
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dhzfzdhf wrote:
> Just thinking, what version of windows was on it before you "rebuilt"
> it for the kids. If it were windows 95, some of the cd roms of that
> era will not work with 98 or newer operating systems
>
> Slower
Umm, I've got a server running XP Pro with two old 2x CD-ROMs in it and they
work perfectly.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:52 am
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"~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in message
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> dhzfzdhf wrote:
> > Just thinking, what version of windows was on it before you "rebuilt"
> > it for the kids. If it were windows 95, some of the cd roms of that
> > era will not work with 98 or newer operating systems
> >
> > Slower
>
> Umm, I've got a server running XP Pro with two old 2x CD-ROMs in it and
they
> work perfectly.
> --
> ~misfit~
>
>
Guys,
I was running XP Pro, SP1, all updates....Nothing is different on the new
build.....
Still have not solved it, so any ideas would be appreciated.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:57 pm
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CeNo wrote:
> "~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in message
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>> dhzfzdhf wrote:
>>> Just thinking, what version of windows was on it before you
>>> "rebuilt" it for the kids. If it were windows 95, some of the cd
>>> roms of that era will not work with 98 or newer operating systems
>>>
>>> Slower
>>
>> Umm, I've got a server running XP Pro with two old 2x CD-ROMs in it
>> and they work perfectly.
>> --
>> ~misfit~
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>>
> Guys,
>
>
>
> I was running XP Pro, SP1, all updates....Nothing is different on the
> new build.....
>
> Still have not solved it, so any ideas would be appreciated.
Did you look into Conners suggestion about mobo chipset drivers? And check
that the drive is running in DMA mode?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:57 pm
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"~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in message
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> CeNo wrote:
> > "~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in message
> > news:W8DVb.38618$9k7.801046@news.xtra.co.nz...
> >> dhzfzdhf wrote:
> >>> Just thinking, what version of windows was on it before you
> >>> "rebuilt" it for the kids. If it were windows 95, some of the cd
> >>> roms of that era will not work with 98 or newer operating systems
> >>>
> >>> Slower
> >>
> >> Umm, I've got a server running XP Pro with two old 2x CD-ROMs in it
> >> and they work perfectly.
> >> --
> >> ~misfit~
> >>
> >>
> > Guys,
> >
> >
> >
> > I was running XP Pro, SP1, all updates....Nothing is different on the
> > new build.....
> >
> > Still have not solved it, so any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Did you look into Conners suggestion about mobo chipset drivers? And check
> that the drive is running in DMA mode?
> --
> ~misfit~
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> Hi mate,
Yeah, i've flashed the mobo....But I dunno how to find where to put the
drive in DMA mode?
Would that be in the bios somewhere?
Cheers,
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:06 pm
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CeNo wrote:
> "~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in message
> news:CaeWb.40630$9k7.838571@news.xtra.co.nz...
>> CeNo wrote:
>>> "~misfit~" <~misfit~@his_desk.com> wrote in message
>>> news:W8DVb.38618$9k7.801046@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>>> dhzfzdhf wrote:
>>>>> Just thinking, what version of windows was on it before you
>>>>> "rebuilt" it for the kids. If it were windows 95, some of the cd
>>>>> roms of that era will not work with 98 or newer operating systems
>>>>>
>>>>> Slower
>>>>
>>>> Umm, I've got a server running XP Pro with two old 2x CD-ROMs in it
>>>> and they work perfectly.
>>>> --
>>>> ~misfit~
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was running XP Pro, SP1, all updates....Nothing is different on
>>> the new build.....
>>>
>>> Still have not solved it, so any ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> Did you look into Conners suggestion about mobo chipset drivers? And
>> check that the drive is running in DMA mode?
>> --
>> ~misfit~
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>> Hi mate,
>
>
> Yeah, i've flashed the mobo....
That's not what was meant by mobo chipset drivers. Go to your mobo
manufacturers page and there should be a download for chipset (or mobo, or
IDE) drivers for download. Or they'll be on the CD that came with your
PC/mobo if you have it. Might need updating for XP if it's an older board so
downloading is probably the way to go. These are installed from within
Windows, different to a BIOS flash.
> But I dunno how to find where to put
> the drive in DMA mode?
> Would that be in the bios somewhere?
Control panel, system, hardware tab, device manager. Click the plus sign
next to IDE controllers, right-click the channel you want, click propeties,
then advanced settings. Make sure all devices have 'DMA if available' in
'transfer mode'. Exit out then go back and see if it's changed. Check 'em
all while you're there.
Luck,
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