On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:43:14 GMT, "John" <not.DeleteThis@released.com> wrote:
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>"Bruce Tyler" <top.DeleteThis@bottom.au> wrote in message
>news:esi5rvkq5tcleqr6po33b6u8jht0a8pr7e@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:47:11 -0500, "Arthur Hagen"
>> <art.DeleteThis@broomstick.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Muttly <muttly.DeleteThis@iol.ie> wrote:
>> >> Thanks for the replies guys. I spent an hour playing Halo on it and I
>> >> got the temp and it said it was 40C. Is this ok.
>> >
>> >40C is considered downright cool.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>>
>> For sure,,, I wish I had 40 degC... I rarely see below 60degC..
>> Know what..!!!! I don't really care either. It's been like that for 18
>> onths now so if it was going to fry, it would have done so by now...
>>
>> Hmmm what's that I can smell..??? Oh..!!! I am trying to think...
>>
>
>To Bruce,
>
>I'm certain that temp will shorten the life of your CPU.
>It should last 10-12 years, but you'll probably shorten the life to 5 or 6
>years, maybe 7.
>
>If I were you, I'd be thinking about a new CPU in the next 5 to 7 years.
>Of course, I only kept one beyond 3 years. And that's my spare/junk system.
>
>It's nice to be below 60C, but I wouldn't worry too much about it.
>
>
>To Muttly,
>
>At 40C, your CPU should last the entire 12 years. Take care of it.
>
>
>John
>
True,, true but I think with PC and the many different ways of
measuring CPU temps I am totally unsure as to the actual accuracy of
the given temps..
Let's look at it this way....
18 months ago I Updated to an XP2000+ from a Thunderbird 1.4Ghz on my
Asus A7M266 M/B... At that time I was getting about 25 degC m/b temp
and about 40 - 45 degC CPU,, according to AsusProbe.. In order to
stick the XP2000+ CPU in, I had to update the BIOS, which I did.
Immediately the CPU temp given were exactly 10deg higher... Now I ask
you, what gives..??? I didn't do anything to the PC except update the
BIOS and bang,, an extra 10 DegC out of thin air... They were 50 - 55
degC.
Ok, I dropped in the new CPU and they went up by approx 5 degC
again... Now about 60+ degC... Let's say I could have left the older
BIOS in and put in the XP2000+ CPU (which I couldn't)... The temps
would be 10 degC less than now - about 50 degC or thereabouts... My
argument is not so much that a CPU can live with any/all temps,, but
more that the reported temps are most likely so inaccurate that
getting all upset about it will only raise your blood pressure and
serve to turn your hair grey way before its time - Hahahahaha..!!!
I have said this many times in this and other groups... About a year
ago I accidentally stopped the fan on the heatsink from spinning (a
loose wire dangled on it) and after a while the air was full of a foul
hot leathery smell, not unlike a new pair of shoes smell,, only it was
my CPU massivley overheating. It eventually made my PC play up Merry
Hell to the point that it began rebooting and finally wouldn't even
reboot.. Man alive, that CPU was red hot when I finally figured out
what it was... The heatsink melted the fingerprints on my finger
smooth..
I finally shut it down and freed up the stuck fan and left it for
about 5 minutes,, then worked up enough courage to boot up.. To my
amazement it went smooth as ever. I fired up AsusProbe and the temp
was still too high to even register.. It eventually started coming
down from 95degC,, 90,, 80,, 70,, then back to its 60 or thereabouts,
where its been ever since...
Now, that was 12 months ago and it still performs faultlessly...
I hold a ham radio license and have been messing with electronics for
most of my 40+ years of memorable life... The first rule of thumb is
that heat is the universal killer of all components, when in excess.
However, there are several exceptions to the rule, in that all
components produce their own heat and all components have a range to
operate best in and it depends on the quality of the component etc etc
etc,, and of course,, just what is that magic temperature at which
smoke appears..???
Heat may be the universal killer but the BIGGEST killer is the warm
up/cool down process that each component goes through each time you
power up/power down, in any electronic device - ANY..!!! All that
stretching and contracting of each component serves to make things
crack and break contacts even to a level that you can only see under a
microscope but it does happen. Have you even noticed when light bulbs
blow - Only when they are switched on (well at least 95% of the
time),, same theroy,, sudden heat causes expansion etc etc and
BANG....!!!! Cooling down has the same affect, only in reverse...
Some of my radio equipment, which are ALL computer controlled, gets
much hotter than any PC internals as I pump massive amounts of watts
through them to the antenna and yet they keep going year in year out..
I do agree with you totally that eventually all PC's will give up the
ghost and die and that any additional heat will/may serve to hasten
that day but it's so very funny how people with PC's think that PC's
are the only device that get hot... Those very same people wouldn't
even lift an eyelid to the internals of the VCR or TV etc. That makes
me laugh....
Constantly running an electrical device can often have better effect
on the life of it, rather that turning it on and off every five
minutes.. That is a fact...
My PC is switched on at 6 am and is switched off at about midnight, 7
days a week 52 weeks a year. I lead a pathetic lifestyle don't I..???
I can bet that I burn up my time allocation a lot sooner than 90% of
the people who own PC's that I know of. Keeping it clean and dust free
etc can help bigtime. Lots of ventilation also helps but above all
else, remember this...
When you least want it or expect it,, things can and often will go
wrong...
That's what Murphy was born for,, just to prove that saying is
correct...
I think we all know that a cooler CPU etc is better than too hot but I
also think many people worry too much about it...<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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