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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:04 pm
Post subject: CT-7NJL6 w/ barton 3000+ only running at 1300
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Like so many of you good folks, I bought a barebones from Tiger Direct
and had my share of problems. It is now running stable but only at
1300 MHz. Am I missing something? Either in the BIOS or the jumpers
on the board itself. Please explain the correct jumper settings and
the BIOS settings as if I were a 3rd grader.

THX

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:29 pm
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upper left of the agp/video card there is the jumper, jp3. there should be a picture in the manual if you have a question on it. basicly just move it over 1 pin.


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:09 am
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Thanks UD,
Tried that and still showed 1.30, so in the BIOS I changed the FSB
Frequency from 166 to 200. Still I only see a 1.30 GHz. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

THX

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 23:37:50 -0500, uddarts
<UseLinkToEmail RemoveThis @HardwareForumz.com> wrote:

>"" wrote:
> > Like so many of you good folks, I bought a barebones from
> > Tiger Direct
> > and had my share of problems. It is now running stable but
> > only at
> > 1300 MHz. Am I missing something? Either in the BIOS or the
> > jumpers
> > on the board itself. Please explain the correct jumper
> > settings and
> > the BIOS settings as if I were a 3rd grader.
> >
> > THX
>
>upper left of the agp/video card there is the jumper, jp3. there
>should be a picture in the manual if you have a question on it.
>basicly just move it over 1 pin.
>
>
>ud
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:04 am
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that was suppose to work. i have to go out for a hour or 2. we'll work it out later.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:30 am
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board manufactures use to always set the jumper to 100fsb to insure a boot no matter what processor. maybe yours was originally set for the higher fsb. return the jumper to the original pins. i would load optimal settings save and exit and it should set the bios to run things as stated below. if the memory still shows up as 200fsb you can change it later.

your ulimate goal should be to run the cpu and the memory at 1:1 ratio, dual channel if you have 2 sticks, so your cpu is 13x166 and mem at 166/2700 and the timings will be faster at that setting.

this app will give you your cpu and memory info.

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

let me know how it goes.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:55 pm
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Refer to page 30 of your manual, section 3-7.

This board's Optimal setting is actually underclocking your chip by a
large margin.

In BIOS, change your Freq/Voltage from Optimal to Aggressive. This
will take you to 1.99 GHz, which is still a bit low for this chip's
rating. If that is stable, you can try to overclock the chip by
kicking it up to Turbo or Expert and playing with those settings.

I left mine at Aggressive, because I am Chicken.

In my experience, on most boards you can specify the frequency; I
guess Chaintech dumbed down the process with this one.

There are no temperature sensor displays in BIOS either; too bad.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:06 pm
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tks guy, it's always best when someone has the board. a downloaded manual pdf always leaves something to be desired.


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:55 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:49 pm
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Tried it all and can not get the cpu up past 1.30. Cpuz.exe shows a
13X at 100 MHz and the memory at 1:1 with 100 MHz. That seems right
but why cannot I get this same coordination at a faster FSB speed?

On 22 Sep 2005 01:37:28 -0400, uddarts
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>"" wrote:
> > Refer to page 30 of your manual, section 3-7.
> >
> > This board's
> > Optimal setting is actually underclocking your chip by a
> > large
> > margin.
> >
> > In BIOS, change your Freq/Voltage from Optimal to
> > Aggressive. This
> > will take you to 1.99 GHz, which is still a
> > bit low for this chip's
> > rating. If that is stable, you can try
> > to overclock the chip by
> > kicking it up to Turbo or Expert and
> > playing with those settings.
> >
> > I left mine at Aggressive,
> > because I am Chicken.
> >
> > In my experience, on most boards you
> > can specify the frequency; I
> > guess Chaintech dumbed down the
> > process with this one.
> >
> > There are no temperature sensor
> > displays in BIOS either; too bad.
>
>tks guy, it’s always best when someone has the board. a downloaded
>manual pdf always leaves something to be desired.
>
>
>ud
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:52 pm
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what speed memory are you using?

when making these changes or whenever, does the computer reboot or shut down on it's own?

make sure the jumper that is located to the upper left of the agp card slot and place it on the bottom 2 pins. boot, hit delete and go into the bios right side of the display. load optimized defaults, hit enter, y for yes, move down to save and exit, hit enter.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:55 pm
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ok...Your symptoms are consistent with JP3 set at 100 MHz. My board
came set to the higher bus frequency, so I did not have to change it.


What pins do you have shorted? Refer to you manual, page 15 and
verify that you have the jumper on pins 1 and 2. To get a higher CPU
speed, you will need to change it. If you have already set it right,
look for some foreign object that is shorting the pins.

Also, your manual, page 8 shows that you should use a multiplier of
10.5 for a 200 MHZ FSB, 13 for 166. Did you try both variations?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:55 pm
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One more thing...

I have been running my system (7NJL6 w/ XP2900) since mid-Feburary
without a crash...I just rebooted my system and went into the BIOS.


Enter BIOS, Go into Frequency/Voltage control, and set the following:



System Interface: Expert
FSB Frequency: 200 MHZ
CPU Interface: Aggressive
Memory Frequency: Auto

Memory Timings: Optimal


And tell us what you get.

HTH!
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:04 am
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OK, good friends, I'm up to 2.16 MHz. Had to reset JP1 twice but it
finally booted with Optimized default loaded. Thanks for all the help
but will have to try again as soon as Rita goes through and we have
stabilized electricity. Being in Southwest Louisiana is not always
fun. I may be out of electricity and AC for a while but lots of
liquor and ice. I have to endure it but I don't have remember it.
Later.

THX


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gsaults RemoveThis @hotmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Guy) wrote:

>One more thing...
>
>I have been running my system (7NJL6 w/ XP2900) since mid-Feburary
>without a crash...I just rebooted my system and went into the BIOS.
>
>
>Enter BIOS, Go into Frequency/Voltage control, and set the following:
>
>
>
>System Interface: Expert
>FSB Frequency: 200 MHZ
>CPU Interface: Aggressive
>Memory Frequency: Auto
>
>Memory Timings: Optimal
>
>
>And tell us what you get.
>
>HTH!
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:39 pm
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glad you got it. if have to clear your bios again, remember to pull the power plug on the psu.

have fun and don't try flying a kite. Very Happy

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:55 pm
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I would try to set the CPU for the intended bus speed, revealed by the
part number on the processor. Verify at AMD, the word is that there
are some that got rebadged to a lower speed. Also where are you
checking the speed at. My Sempron 2800 333 bus runs at a true near
2Ghz. the 2800 is a rating.
Also check if there is a label on the RAM if it is Ultra. I thought I
was getting pc3200 400MHz RAM from the ad and the BIOS detects as
such from the SPD. I found the label actually says 266MHz and
manually setting to such creates stability.
Start with BIOS reset per manual, boot to BIOS & set to optimum,
boot machine and check Device Manager for proper hardware install. I
have found that when viewing by device connection, the tree will
reveal wrong connections to computer.
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