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metroman

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:26 pm
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:55 am
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Just an observation
'Several years ago' the old mobo is likely superceeded by new tech. ie
proccessor / sata / usb etc and since you are in 'pro graphics' updating old
tech. might be a retrograde step. eg perhaps you might be considering a dual
core cpu? now or later.
On board sound is allmost universal.
If by upgrading the mobo you also have to update memory, just Ebay your old
stuff, thats the route I've used
PS I run a Matrox G450 in dual mode (old!!) on a Gygabyte GA-K8N Ultra 9

<metroman.TakeThisOut@urban.net> wrote in message
news:4jb042p2vqnrortfs93kfd7lh1jp2olacp@4ax.com...
> Several years ago I was ready to assemble my second computer. The
> first one went together easily and worked perfectly from the first
> boot up. Despite extensive research before making decisions regarding
> components, the second machine never got off the ground. With
> frustration and a considerable loss of time and money, I abandoned the
> project completely using instead my laptop. It can not deliver the
> power or speed currently needed for work so I would like to salvage
> some of the parts I have and add what is needed to allow me to again
> work like a professional.
> My first machine had an Asus P2B mobo and it still serves me in a
> backup box. Its reliability left no question but to have another Asus
> for the second machine. That may have been a mistake. I purchased a
> P4C800-E Deluxe and two matching sticks (2x512) of Corsair
> TwinX1024-4000Pro, a 1.80 CPU (fast at the time) and a Matrox
> Millennium P Series 750. I hear the groans already. I am not a gamer
> at all. I am a professional graphics person who was interested in a
> card that would deliver duel monitor capability for high-end graphics
> work. The Matrox came highly recommended by other professionals. At
> the time, I was unaware of the incompatibility issue between that
> particular card and the P4C800 MB. The machine never once got past
> POSTing.
>
> So I need some advice regarding how to best resolve this. In addition
> to a faster CPU, I also intend to add an additional 1024 of RAM which
> obviously should be the same Corsair mentioned above. Do I stay with
> the mobo and replace the vid card or replace the mobo with something
> else that can use my existing RAM (plus slots for more) and keep the
> Matrox? I have an excellent Creative Labs Audigy 2 sound card and
> don't need - or want - built in sound but onboard Wi-Fi would be great
> to save a PCI slot if that feature as a built in is known to be
> satisfactory. I am hoping the two 21" CRT monitors that have been
> sitting unused for two years still work.
>
> Experienced suggestions are welcome and appreciated.
>
> Sincere thanks.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:56 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:55 am
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In article <t1n242lj548a071ovgl9sm76rjcqdt4lhm.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
metroman.RemoveThis@urban.net wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 08:15:34 GMT, nospam.RemoveThis@needed.com (Paul) wrote:
>
> >In article <4jb042p2vqnrortfs93kfd7lh1jp2olacp.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
> >metroman@urban.net wrote:
> >
> >> Several years ago I was ready to assemble my second computer.
> >> [Snip]
> >
> > [More snip]
> >... it will be a bit of work to get going.
> >
> >HTH,
> > Paul
>
> Paul
> Thank you for taking the time to carefully and thoroughly lay out your
> thoughts regarding this mess. (I found in my archive that you
> responded to my initial call for help at the beginning of this project
> in 2004.) I appreciate your input and all of the links. As you may
> guess, I had done some of this fact-finding regarding the
> incompatibility when the issue first arose. The more I read the more I
> think I can never have confidence in the P4C800. Last night I
> discovered a new caveat regarding the front USB connects. It seems a
> new mobo, Asus or other, is definitely needed. I can salvage the RAM
> (thank you for the tip about not adding a new pair now) and possibly
> the vid card although I'm ready to move away from Matrox after this.
>
> Want some slightly dated but unused parts, Paul? Too bad you're not
> near NYC, I'd happily barter some of your obvious expertise for my
> hardware.
>
> If nothing else, thanks for your support.
>
> I'm Paul too.

Despite the issues with USB and burnt Southbridges, I still
think 865/875 based boards are useful. And a 1.8Ghz processor
would be good enough for office work, email, web surfing
and the like. People with older S478 motherboards, would
be interested in your motherboard, so it doesn't belong in
the landfill. (You could even make a file server out of it,
by adding a $50 video card that can properly display the
BIOS setup. I have a couple FX5200's that I use for stuff
like that. By using a cheap PS/2 keyboard and mouse, there
is no need to go near the USB ports. I don't use mine.)

For Photoshop, I don't recollect my ever finding a site
that regularly updates their hardware recommendations, when
new processors come out. So while in principle, a dual core
from Intel or AMD would probably be a fast choice, it would
be comforting to know how much "value for money" each of the
potential choices can bring. The Macintosh forums used to be
a good source of contrasting reviews, but they were never
interested in testing all the possible AMD/Intel processor
variants.

On any case, I hope your next build goes a bit smoother.

Paul
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