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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:21 pm
Post subject: Cyrix in a 503+
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Well, this is the third part in a three part story. The second 503+
went to my mother-in-law, she's really happy with it. Her former
computer was a P 1 100 MHz, socket 5. nuf said. This is the last 503+ I
have, the reset doesnt work, and the sticker says 2900 I believe. ver
1.1, no ATX connector. Anyway, I flashed it with a newer BIOS, and then
found Cyrix M II 300 75 fsb in a box of free stuff from a donation here
in town. Never used a Cyrix before, I popped it in there, found the last
socket 7 heatsink I had, set the jumpers, no boot. Figured the 70ns 72
pin ram couldn't handle the 75 MHz fsb, popped a stick of 32 MB PC100
in, set the jumpers again, and finally got a screen . woo hoo ! Got the
manual out, and then noticed I had left the voltage at 2.1 that I used
for the previous K6 III+, and realized that was way too low. yep, top of
Cyrix says 2.9, set that and all runs well. Enabled linear burst in
BIOS, and I am off to the races. My question is, how well or how bad
does this cpu perform ? No gaming here, just plain old fashioned
computing. What would a MII 300 compare to ? P 133 ? ha ha. JK.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:19 pm
Post subject: Re: Cyrix in a 503+ [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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The 300-ish rating is actually fairly accurate, as long as you are
talking about non-floating point calculations. My old roommate used to
have one back in the day. He actually would play games on it, using a
Voodoo Banshee 16 MB PCI card. For the time it was acceptable, but this
isn't 1998 anymore. :p
By the way, you can try running the CPU at (3.5x66)=233 instead of
(3x75)=225 if you want to use that EDO RAM and save the PC100 for
something else.
--Alex
farmuse wrote:
> Well, this is the third part in a three part story. The second 503+
> went to my mother-in-law, she's really happy with it. Her former
> computer was a P 1 100 MHz, socket 5. nuf said. This is the last 503+ I
> have, the reset doesnt work, and the sticker says 2900 I believe. ver
> 1.1, no ATX connector. Anyway, I flashed it with a newer BIOS, and then
> found Cyrix M II 300 75 fsb in a box of free stuff from a donation here
> in town. Never used a Cyrix before, I popped it in there, found the last
> socket 7 heatsink I had, set the jumpers, no boot. Figured the 70ns 72
> pin ram couldn't handle the 75 MHz fsb, popped a stick of 32 MB PC100
> in, set the jumpers again, and finally got a screen . woo hoo ! Got the
> manual out, and then noticed I had left the voltage at 2.1 that I used
> for the previous K6 III+, and realized that was way too low. yep, top of
> Cyrix says 2.9, set that and all runs well. Enabled linear burst in
> BIOS, and I am off to the races. My question is, how well or how bad
> does this cpu perform ? No gaming here, just plain old fashioned
> computing. What would a MII 300 compare to ? P 133 ? ha ha. JK.
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> Cheers, John |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:23 am
Post subject: Re: Cyrix in a 503+ [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I have a MII300 somewhere (need a spare?) that I used for a brief
spell. It ran just fine for everyday business type applications. I
sort of recall overclocking it a bit to the 350 rating speed w/o
problem.
Speaking of fried, I had a HS fan fail on an old k6-233 CPU based
system and when I touched the HS to check the temperature, it burned 3
stripes on my finger, yet the CPU did not suffer any damage.
Replacement of the fan returned the system to normal operation much to
my amazement.
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Best regards,
Kyle
"farmuse" <farmuse.RemoveThis@cows.net> wrote in message
news:430A33D1.1000508@cows.net...
| Well, this is the third part in a three part story. The second
503+
| went to my mother-in-law, she's really happy with it. Her former
| computer was a P 1 100 MHz, socket 5. nuf said. This is the last
503+ I
| have, the reset doesnt work, and the sticker says 2900 I believe.
ver
| 1.1, no ATX connector. Anyway, I flashed it with a newer BIOS, and
then
| found Cyrix M II 300 75 fsb in a box of free stuff from a donation
here
| in town. Never used a Cyrix before, I popped it in there, found the
last
| socket 7 heatsink I had, set the jumpers, no boot. Figured the 70ns
72
| pin ram couldn't handle the 75 MHz fsb, popped a stick of 32 MB
PC100
| in, set the jumpers again, and finally got a screen . woo hoo ! Got
the
| manual out, and then noticed I had left the voltage at 2.1 that I
used
| for the previous K6 III+, and realized that was way too low. yep,
top of
| Cyrix says 2.9, set that and all runs well. Enabled linear burst in
| BIOS, and I am off to the races. My question is, how well or how bad
| does this cpu perform ? No gaming here, just plain old fashioned
| computing. What would a MII 300 compare to ? P 133 ? ha ha. JK.
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| Cheers, John >> Stay informed about: Cyrix in a 503+ |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:55 am
Post subject: Re: Cyrix in a 503+ [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Alex, thanks for confirming that, these are two older 2 and 4 GB
drives, on the same cable. I may copy the primary to the better drive,
and ditch the smaller primary, then load a better busmaster driver. Back
in the day there were drivers made by highpoint, that could be used with
the 503+. I may hunt them up and try them. Like I said a while back,
this is all experimental and just for fun. I guess I am just trying to
prove that older computers run plenty fast enough for average pc use. I
just think that newer software is too bloated, is mainly multimedia
oriented, and if one doesn't edit video, play newer games, run
statistical programs, then a good P II or K6 2 is plenty. The Cyrix runs
pretty well for business use like Kyle said. The fact that we now have
to run anti-virus software, spyware detection software, and firewalls
unlike we did back in 1998 take up even more resources from the cpu and
computer overall. Why can't they make a smaller version of XP that won't
hog resources ? seems like I read about a version to be released in
Japan that is made for light duty computers. Myself, I have a lot more
respect for someone who uses a somewhat less powerful machine properly
than one who goes to Best Buy and buys the top of the line OEM part just
to send e mail. Oops, sorry for the rant, but that is where this is all
coming from. Yes I do run much more capable machines than these, but
this is a whole lot more fun in some respect. Plus it costs me little to
nothing. Thanks again !
Alex Zorrilla wrote:
> It is indeed possible that the UDMA problems are because of the VIA
> driver. As an example, I have noticed in Windows XP with the VA-503A,
> UDMA devices do not run at their full speeds. For example, a Maxtor
> ATA33 drive (UDMA mode 2) only runs at UDMA mode 0, and the DVD drive
> (UDMA mode 2) runs at only UDMA mode 1. A Maxtor ATA100 drive (UDMA
> mode 5) only runs at UDMA mode 3.
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> Keep in mind that my VA-503A uses the 686A southbridge, which is capable
> of up to UDMA mode 4 (ATA66). I believe your VA-503+ uses the 596B
> soutbridge (or something like that), which only goes up to ATA33/UDMA2.
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> I ran into these problems, whether I used the VIA IDE drivers that came
> with WinXP or I downloaded the latest drivers from VIA. Then I came
> across a post in the VIA Arena forums that suggested using the default
> Microsoft IDE driver. I tried that, and BooM! All my drives were
> running at full speed, and I could feel the difference, too.
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> --Alex >> Stay informed about: Cyrix in a 503+ |
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