anyone get DOS EMM to work on AN35N?

"Frank Hagan" <SickOfSpam@F**kOff.com> wrote...

 >
 > "Kristi" <kristi***@pooh.ASARian.org> wrote in message
 > news:Xns9427E844FCD37fizzlepop@140.99.99.130...
  >> got an old dos game that uses ems. can't get ems to work.
  >>
  >> DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
  >> DEVICE=EMM386.EXE i=e000-efff RAM
  >> DOS=HIGH,UMB
  >>
  >> I've used many different varients of the second line.
  >> I get "emm386 not installed - unable to set page frame base
  >> address"
  >>
  >> The knowledgebase article is no help.
  >>
  >> I had no prob with this on previous mobo's.
  >>
  >> HELP!
  >> tia!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  >> Kristi
  >> an35n ultra , g bios, 768mb ram, 6.22dos, I think.
 >
 > Are you running WinXP? If you are I have some semi bad news:
 >
 > "Windows XP does not support EMS. To use expanded memory, you
 > must install an expanded memory device driver that conforms to
 > version 4.0 of the Lotus/Intel/Microsoft Expanded Memory
 > Specification (LIM EMS)."

I know, but just exactly where do I find one of these? tia

 >
 > As far as running the game, try the "Compatibility Mode"
 > feature. It has helped me to run some older games on WinXP
 > Pro. (Red Baron)

doesn't help

 >
 > Frank Hagan
 >
 > P.S. FSB 204 x 10.5 with my XP2100 with 512MB of "Mystery
 > Memory" I got on eBay for $63. Prime95 and memtest86 stable!
 > The XP1700 will "only" do 200 x 10.5
 >
 >
 >
Hi Frank!
still running my 1700, and I notice the 2500's have gone up! har!

I normally run XP, but for games I use native DOS (7.0) or win98se.
It seems that this board reacts badly to emm. I have:
Main memory: 640KB, free 619KB
Extended MEM: 960KB, free 63324KB XMS
Expanded mem not installed.

Kristi<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Kristi" <kristi***@pooh.ASARian.org> wrote in message
news:Xns94288809EB806fizzlepop@140.99.99.130...
 >
 > "Frank Hagan" <SickOfSpam@F**kOff.com> wrote...
 >
  > >
  > > "Kristi" <kristi***@pooh.ASARian.org> wrote in message
  > > news:Xns9427E844FCD37fizzlepop@140.99.99.130...
   > >> got an old dos game that uses ems. can't get ems to work.
   > >>
   > >> DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
   > >> DEVICE=EMM386.EXE i=e000-efff RAM
   > >> DOS=HIGH,UMB
   > >>
   > >> I've used many different varients of the second line.
   > >> I get "emm386 not installed - unable to set page frame base
   > >> address"
   > >>
   > >> The knowledgebase article is no help.
   > >>
   > >> I had no prob with this on previous mobo's.
   > >>
   > >> HELP!
   > >> tia!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   > >> Kristi
   > >> an35n ultra , g bios, 768mb ram, 6.22dos, I think.
  > >
  > > Are you running WinXP? If you are I have some semi bad news:
  > >
  > > "Windows XP does not support EMS. To use expanded memory, you
  > > must install an expanded memory device driver that conforms to
  > > version 4.0 of the Lotus/Intel/Microsoft Expanded Memory
  > > Specification (LIM EMS)."
 >
 > I know, but just exactly where do I find one of these? tia
 >
  > >
  > > As far as running the game, try the "Compatibility Mode"
  > > feature. It has helped me to run some older games on WinXP
  > > Pro. (Red Baron)
 >
 > doesn't help
 >
  > >
  > > Frank Hagan
  > >
  > > P.S. FSB 204 x 10.5 with my XP2100 with 512MB of "Mystery
  > > Memory" I got on eBay for $63. Prime95 and memtest86 stable!
  > > The XP1700 will "only" do 200 x 10.5
  > >
  > >
  > >
 > Hi Frank!
 > still running my 1700, and I notice the 2500's have gone up! har!
 >
 > I normally run XP, but for games I use native DOS (7.0) or win98se.
 > It seems that this board reacts badly to emm. I have:
 > Main memory: 640KB, free 619KB
 > Extended MEM: 960KB, free 63324KB XMS
 > Expanded mem not installed.
 >
 > Kristi
 >

I am at a loss to explain that Possibly the board and BIOS were simply
optimized for Win9X and XP. If all else fails get an old K6/2-450 system on
eBay and run DOS. You could use one of those switching setups and use the
same monitor and keyboard. Truly sorry I couldn't be of more help.

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"Frank Hagan" <SickOfSpam@F**kOff.com> wrote...

 >
 > "Kristi" <kristi***@pooh.ASARian.org> wrote in message
 > news:Xns94288809EB806fizzlepop@140.99.99.130...
  >>
  >> "Frank Hagan" <SickOfSpam@F**kOff.com> wrote...
  >>
   >> >
   >> > "Kristi" <kristi***@pooh.ASARian.org> wrote in message
   >> > news:Xns9427E844FCD37fizzlepop@140.99.99.130...
   >> >> got an old dos game that uses ems. can't get ems to work.
   >> >>
   >> >> DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
   >> >> DEVICE=EMM386.EXE i=e000-efff RAM
   >> >> DOS=HIGH,UMB
   >> >>
   >> >> I've used many different varients of the second line.
   >> >> I get "emm386 not installed - unable to set page frame
   >> >> base address"
   >> >>
   >> >> The knowledgebase article is no help.
   >> >>
   >> >> I had no prob with this on previous mobo's.
   >> >>
   >> >> HELP!
   >> >> tia!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   >> >> Kristi
   >> >> an35n ultra , g bios, 768mb ram, 6.22dos, I think.
   >> >
   >> > Are you running WinXP? If you are I have some semi bad
   >> > news:
   >> >
   >> > "Windows XP does not support EMS. To use expanded memory,
   >> > you must install an expanded memory device driver that
   >> > conforms to version 4.0 of the Lotus/Intel/Microsoft
   >> > Expanded Memory Specification (LIM EMS)."
  >>
  >> I know, but just exactly where do I find one of these? tia
  >>
   >> >
   >> > As far as running the game, try the "Compatibility Mode"
   >> > feature. It has helped me to run some older games on WinXP
   >> > Pro. (Red Baron)
  >>
  >> doesn't help
  >>
   >> >
   >> > Frank Hagan
   >> >
   >> > P.S. FSB 204 x 10.5 with my XP2100 with 512MB of "Mystery
   >> > Memory" I got on eBay for $63. Prime95 and memtest86
   >> > stable! The XP1700 will "only" do 200 x 10.5
   >> >
   >> >
   >> >
  >> Hi Frank!
  >> still running my 1700, and I notice the 2500's have gone up!
  >> har!
  >>
  >> I normally run XP, but for games I use native DOS (7.0) or
  >> win98se. It seems that this board reacts badly to emm. I
  >> have: Main memory: 640KB, free 619KB
  >> Extended MEM: 960KB, free 63324KB XMS
  >> Expanded mem not installed.
  >>
  >> Kristi
  >>
 >
 > I am at a loss to explain that Possibly the board and
 > BIOS were simply optimized for Win9X and XP. If all else fails
 > get an old K6/2-450 system on eBay and run DOS. You could use
 > one of those switching setups and use the same monitor and
 > keyboard. Truly sorry I couldn't be of more help.
 >
 > Frank Hagan

stumbled into an answer. a site suggested that devices were taking
up upper memory. Since this was a DOS boot, I looked in the BIOS
and deleted or dissabled thingsa like apic, etc, but it seems to
have been the USB keyboard support that broke the camel's back. I
don't need that and w/o it emm386 works just fine (not on win98se
or XP, though).
Why? I would guess that with the advent of usb2.0, it needs
more upper mem. I run 1.1 only (in BIOS) cause Win98se and my
Canon FG620U don't seem to want to talk to each other on 2.0 , but
that's not a prob for me. I did see the IRQ's change quite a bit
when I played with the devices as it kept rebuilding the DMI table,
differently - no prob - just had to move my sound card to another
slot. Still haven't gotten it to work in DOS yet, but haven't
played with it much - that should be easy (bow to the four corners
and make an offering of chip dust!)
Thanks for your thoughts!
Kristi<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Kristi" <kristi***@pooh.ASARian.org> wrote in message
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 >
 >
 > "Frank Hagan" <SickOfSpam@F**kOff.com> wrote...
 >
  > >
  > > "Kristi" <kristi***@pooh.ASARian.org> wrote in message
  > > news:Xns94288809EB806fizzlepop@140.99.99.130...
   > >>
   > >> "Frank Hagan" <SickOfSpam@F**kOff.com> wrote...
   > >>
   > >> >
   > >> > "Kristi" <kristi***@pooh.ASARian.org> wrote in message
   > >> > news:Xns9427E844FCD37fizzlepop@140.99.99.130...
   > >> >> got an old dos game that uses ems. can't get ems to work.
   > >> >>
   > >> >> DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
   > >> >> DEVICE=EMM386.EXE i=e000-efff RAM
   > >> >> DOS=HIGH,UMB
   > >> >>
   > >> >> I've used many different varients of the second line.
   > >> >> I get "emm386 not installed - unable to set page frame
   > >> >> base address"
   > >> >>
   > >> >> The knowledgebase article is no help.
   > >> >>
   > >> >> I had no prob with this on previous mobo's.
   > >> >>
   > >> >> HELP!
   > >> >> tia!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   > >> >> Kristi
   > >> >> an35n ultra , g bios, 768mb ram, 6.22dos, I think.
   > >> >
   > >> > Are you running WinXP? If you are I have some semi bad
   > >> > news:
   > >> >
   > >> > "Windows XP does not support EMS. To use expanded memory,
   > >> > you must install an expanded memory device driver that
   > >> > conforms to version 4.0 of the Lotus/Intel/Microsoft
   > >> > Expanded Memory Specification (LIM EMS)."
   > >>
   > >> I know, but just exactly where do I find one of these? tia
   > >>
   > >> >
   > >> > As far as running the game, try the "Compatibility Mode"
   > >> > feature. It has helped me to run some older games on WinXP
   > >> > Pro. (Red Baron)
   > >>
   > >> doesn't help
   > >>
   > >> >
   > >> > Frank Hagan
   > >> >
   > >> > P.S. FSB 204 x 10.5 with my XP2100 with 512MB of "Mystery
   > >> > Memory" I got on eBay for $63. Prime95 and memtest86
   > >> > stable! The XP1700 will "only" do 200 x 10.5
   > >> >
   > >> >
   > >> >
   > >> Hi Frank!
   > >> still running my 1700, and I notice the 2500's have gone up!
   > >> har!
   > >>
   > >> I normally run XP, but for games I use native DOS (7.0) or
   > >> win98se. It seems that this board reacts badly to emm. I
   > >> have: Main memory: 640KB, free 619KB
   > >> Extended MEM: 960KB, free 63324KB XMS
   > >> Expanded mem not installed.
   > >>
   > >> Kristi
   > >>
  > >
  > > I am at a loss to explain that Possibly the board and
  > > BIOS were simply optimized for Win9X and XP. If all else fails
  > > get an old K6/2-450 system on eBay and run DOS. You could use
  > > one of those switching setups and use the same monitor and
  > > keyboard. Truly sorry I couldn't be of more help.
  > >
  > > Frank Hagan
 >
 > stumbled into an answer. a site suggested that devices were taking
 > up upper memory. Since this was a DOS boot, I looked in the BIOS
 > and deleted or dissabled thingsa like apic, etc, but it seems to
 > have been the USB keyboard support that broke the camel's back. I
 > don't need that and w/o it emm386 works just fine (not on win98se
 > or XP, though).
 > Why? I would guess that with the advent of usb2.0, it needs
 > more upper mem. I run 1.1 only (in BIOS) cause Win98se and my
 > Canon FG620U don't seem to want to talk to each other on 2.0 , but
 > that's not a prob for me. I did see the IRQ's change quite a bit
 > when I played with the devices as it kept rebuilding the DMI table,
 > differently - no prob - just had to move my sound card to another
 > slot. Still haven't gotten it to work in DOS yet, but haven't
 > played with it much - that should be easy (bow to the four corners
 > and make an offering of chip dust!)
 > Thanks for your thoughts!
 > Kristi

LOL! What game? It must be a classic to be worth all this effort

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