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Alex Marsden

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Since: Jan 05, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:45 pm
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It has just started with its clilcking sound... it seems to be on and
off..... THE DRIVE IS STILL WORKING..... when another computer becomes
available to day i will be backing everything up over network to the another
drive.

I have been snooping around on some message boards and they have told me
that a firmware update may help. something to do with the drive head hanging
about generating heat. then writing data to the wrong groove on the platter?
producing errors. the firmware keeps the drive head active during idle times
(or something).

The windows information thing says it needs a firmware update to a45a. I d/l
the update and ran the bootdisk which then told me that it wasn't needed!?!
i currently have the a46a. - surely this is a more current firmware than the
one i was suggested to upgrade to?

I know there is probably nothing i can do but is there anything i could
persue? And what are the bestways to backup all the data and be easy to
recover it later onto a fresh drive?? (i am currently doing a microsoft
backup over the network to another computer as i have no spare harddisks)
Alex

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Jeff Hansman

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:11 am
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I just sent my dead (yes, it died clicking) 40GB Deskstar back to Hitachi
for replacement. I'll be interested to see what I get back. This drive is
already a replacement for the original that went back to IBM. Best of all:
on the top is a label reading "servicable used part." Serviceable, maybe.
Reliable, NOT!
"Alex Marsden" <just_grassNO RemoveThis @SPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:btbf7s$l40$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
 > It has just started with its clilcking sound... it seems to be on and
 > off..... THE DRIVE IS STILL WORKING..... when another computer becomes
 > available to day i will be backing everything up over network to the
another
 > drive.
 >
 > I have been snooping around on some message boards and they have told me
 > that a firmware update may help. something to do with the drive head
hanging
 > about generating heat. then writing data to the wrong groove on the
platter?
 > producing errors. the firmware keeps the drive head active during idle
times
 > (or something).
 >
 > The windows information thing says it needs a firmware update to a45a. I
d/l
 > the update and ran the bootdisk which then told me that it wasn't
needed!?!
 > i currently have the a46a. - surely this is a more current firmware than
the
 > one i was suggested to upgrade to?
 >
 > I know there is probably nothing i can do but is there anything i could
 > persue? And what are the bestways to backup all the data and be easy to
 > recover it later onto a fresh drive?? (i am currently doing a microsoft
 > backup over the network to another computer as i have no spare harddisks)
 > Alex
 >
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Rod Speed

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:47 am
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Alex Marsden <just_grassNO.DeleteThis@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote
in message news:btbf7s$l40$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...

 > It has just started with its clilcking sound... it seems
 > to be on and off..... THE DRIVE IS STILL WORKING.....
 > when another computer becomes available to day i will be
 > backing everything up over network to the another drive.

 > I have been snooping around on some message boards and they
 > have told me that a firmware update may help. something to do
 > with the drive head hanging about generating heat. then writing data
 > to the wrong groove on the platter? producing errors. the firmware
 > keeps the drive head active during idle times (or something).

Thats all rather comprehensively garbled but doesnt matter much.

 > The windows information thing says it needs a firmware update to
 > a45a. I d/l the update and ran the bootdisk which then told me that
 > it wasn't needed!?! i currently have the a46a. - surely this is a more
 > current firmware than the one i was suggested to upgrade to?

Correct.

 > I know there is probably nothing i can do but is there anything i could persue?

Complete waste of time with IBM GXP drives. They aint called DeathStars
for nothing. Just copy off the data while you can and bin the drive.

 > And what are the bestways to backup all the data
 > and be easy to recover it later onto a fresh drive??

One of the imaging programs like ghost or drive image.

 > (i am currently doing a microsoft backup over the network
 > to another computer as i have no spare harddisks)

You dont say if you just plan to buy another drive and
use that or if you plan to RMA the drive to Hitachi
who have bought the IBM hard drive operation.

If you plan to just buy a new drive, simplest to put the
new drive in the system that has the failing 60GXP in it
and use ghost or drive image to clone the dying drive.

Gets more tricky if you plan to RMA the drive, because
Hitachi is too stupid to cross ship the replacement. So
you need somewhere to put the image file if using ghost
or drive image. They will both write to a cdrom burner, so
thats one approach buy one of those if you dont have one.

It is possible to write the image file across the network
to another PC drive, but that can be a bit fiddly to setup.
Its quite doable, but you need to know what you are
doing if the network adapter isnt in the standard list
with the imaging program. Not a good idea to fiddle
around for days with a dying drive achieving that.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Top-poster

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:47 am
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Oh, and Ghost 2003 writes to DVD drives too.
Most partitions'll fit (compressed) on one or two 4.7 Gig discs.


"Rod Speed" <rod_speed.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:btcbg6$5fh1h$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de...
 >
 > Alex Marsden <just_grassNO.DeleteThis@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote
 > in message news:btbf7s$l40$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
 >
  > > It has just started with its clilcking sound... it seems
  > > to be on and off..... THE DRIVE IS STILL WORKING.....
  > > when another computer becomes available to day i will be
  > > backing everything up over network to the another drive.
 >
  > > I have been snooping around on some message boards and they
  > > have told me that a firmware update may help. something to do
  > > with the drive head hanging about generating heat. then writing data
  > > to the wrong groove on the platter? producing errors. the firmware
  > > keeps the drive head active during idle times (or something).
 >
 > Thats all rather comprehensively garbled but doesnt matter much.
 >
  > > The windows information thing says it needs a firmware update to
  > > a45a. I d/l the update and ran the bootdisk which then told me that
  > > it wasn't needed!?! i currently have the a46a. - surely this is a more
  > > current firmware than the one i was suggested to upgrade to?
 >
 > Correct.
 >
  > > I know there is probably nothing i can do but is there anything i could
persue?
 >
 > Complete waste of time with IBM GXP drives. They aint called DeathStars
 > for nothing. Just copy off the data while you can and bin the drive.
 >
  > > And what are the bestways to backup all the data
  > > and be easy to recover it later onto a fresh drive??
 >
 > One of the imaging programs like ghost or drive image.
 >
  > > (i am currently doing a microsoft backup over the network
  > > to another computer as i have no spare harddisks)
 >
 > You dont say if you just plan to buy another drive and
 > use that or if you plan to RMA the drive to Hitachi
 > who have bought the IBM hard drive operation.
 >
 > If you plan to just buy a new drive, simplest to put the
 > new drive in the system that has the failing 60GXP in it
 > and use ghost or drive image to clone the dying drive.
 >
 > Gets more tricky if you plan to RMA the drive, because
 > Hitachi is too stupid to cross ship the replacement. So
 > you need somewhere to put the image file if using ghost
 > or drive image. They will both write to a cdrom burner, so
 > thats one approach buy one of those if you dont have one.
 >
 > It is possible to write the image file across the network
 > to another PC drive, but that can be a bit fiddly to setup.
 > Its quite doable, but you need to know what you are
 > doing if the network adapter isnt in the standard list
 > with the imaging program. Not a good idea to fiddle
 > around for days with a dying drive achieving that.
 >
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Since: Nov 12, 2003
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:40 pm
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"Top-poster" <me_again_.RemoveThis@btinternet.com> wrote:

 >Oh, and Ghost 2003 writes to DVD drives too.
 >Most partitions'll fit (compressed) on one or two 4.7 Gig discs.

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Rod Speed

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:59 am
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Just another donkey dropping from this ass.

chrisv <chrisv DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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 > Top-poster <me_again_ DeleteThis @btinternet.com> wrote

  >> Oh, and Ghost 2003 writes to DVD drives too.
  >> Most partitions'll fit (compressed) on one or two 4.7 Gig discs.

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