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SteveD61

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:03 am
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Hope someone can help me with this problem. A new install of WindowsXP Pro
on a new build computer.

Specs:
MSI K7N2G-ILSR
AMD AthlonXP 2500+
Kingston HyperX PC2700 DDR Ram 512megs
Western Digital EIDE HDD 80gigs (master on IDE0)
Ricoh DVD+R/RW (master on IDE1) and a Lite On 48x CDR/RW (slave on IDE1)
PS2 Keyboard and Mouse
All newest drivers and patches.

When I boot into Windows I can see the DVD drive in Windows Explorerand in
System Devices, everything looks ok, but I am unable to read anydisks I put
ito the drive. When I go to a dos prompt the drive is also notfound. When I
boot up with a CD or DVD in the drive I am able to read theDVD fine in
Windows Explorer and at a dos prompt until I reboot and forgetto leave a
disk in the drive. I have tried swapping the CDR/RW and DVD+R/RWdrives and
then Windows can't read the CDR/RW drive. I have also tried changing the HDD
to IDE1 and the DVD+R/RW and CDR/RW drives to IDE0, also no good.This is
starting to drive me a little batty ifanyone can help thanksin
advance.sdergosi RemoveThis @tampabay.rr.com

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Sept19672

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:03 am
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Maybe try a better IDE cable (or even an UDMA100 one). I had a DVD slave
that would like to dissapear also. Until I put an UDMA100 cable on it. Just
a better signal I suppose.

"SteveD61" <sdergosi.RemoveThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:jHgYa.18508$qg3.1121490@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
 > Hope someone can help me with this problem. A new install of WindowsXP Pro
 > on a new build computer.
 >
 > Specs:
 > MSI K7N2G-ILSR
 > AMD AthlonXP 2500+
 > Kingston HyperX PC2700 DDR Ram 512megs
 > Western Digital EIDE HDD 80gigs (master on IDE0)
 > Ricoh DVD+R/RW (master on IDE1) and a Lite On 48x CDR/RW (slave on IDE1)
 > PS2 Keyboard and Mouse
 > All newest drivers and patches.
 >
 > When I boot into Windows I can see the DVD drive in Windows Explorerand in
 > System Devices, everything looks ok, but I am unable to read anydisks I
put
 > ito the drive. When I go to a dos prompt the drive is also notfound. When
I
 > boot up with a CD or DVD in the drive I am able to read theDVD fine in
 > Windows Explorer and at a dos prompt until I reboot and forgetto leave a
 > disk in the drive. I have tried swapping the CDR/RW and DVD+R/RWdrives and
 > then Windows can't read the CDR/RW drive. I have also tried changing the
HDD
 > to IDE1 and the DVD+R/RW and CDR/RW drives to IDE0, also no good.This is
 > starting to drive me a little batty ifanyone can help thanksin
 > advance.sdergosi.RemoveThis@tampabay.rr.com
 >
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:03 am
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If this is a Nforce motherboard, make sure you are not using the Nforce IDE
controller driver. Use only the default MS controller driver.


"SteveD61" <sdergosi.RemoveThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:jHgYa.18508$qg3.1121490@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
 > Hope someone can help me with this problem. A new install of WindowsXP Pro
 > on a new build computer.
 >
 > Specs:
 > MSI K7N2G-ILSR
 > AMD AthlonXP 2500+
 > Kingston HyperX PC2700 DDR Ram 512megs
 > Western Digital EIDE HDD 80gigs (master on IDE0)
 > Ricoh DVD+R/RW (master on IDE1) and a Lite On 48x CDR/RW (slave on IDE1)
 > PS2 Keyboard and Mouse
 > All newest drivers and patches.
 >
 > When I boot into Windows I can see the DVD drive in Windows Explorerand in
 > System Devices, everything looks ok, but I am unable to read anydisks I
put
 > ito the drive. When I go to a dos prompt the drive is also notfound. When
I
 > boot up with a CD or DVD in the drive I am able to read theDVD fine in
 > Windows Explorer and at a dos prompt until I reboot and forgetto leave a
 > disk in the drive. I have tried swapping the CDR/RW and DVD+R/RWdrives and
 > then Windows can't read the CDR/RW drive. I have also tried changing the
HDD
 > to IDE1 and the DVD+R/RW and CDR/RW drives to IDE0, also no good.This is
 > starting to drive me a little batty ifanyone can help thanksin
 > advance.sdergosi.RemoveThis@tampabay.rr.com
 >
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Scott35

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:03 am
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You have any add on ide cards? Does this board have on board sata raid? I
have had similar issues with my MSI Intel board neo 875. I played around
with the settings seems to be fixed now.. Also, DO NOT CHOOSE 32 BIT
TRANSFER MODES FOR YOUR ATAPI DEVICES!! (CDROMS, DVDROMS)
Always run them as slaves off the masters, or masters with HD slaves, DO NOT
PUT THEM ON THE SAME IDE CHANNEL! Peace

Interesting response concerning Live update. As well, when I installed the
new version 3 of live update these problems started to arise. You might be
on to something here. Good work!


"Sept1967" <sept1967@highstream.{erase}net> wrote in message
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 > Maybe try a better IDE cable (or even an UDMA100 one). I had a DVD slave
 > that would like to dissapear also. Until I put an UDMA100 cable on it.
Just
 > a better signal I suppose.
 >
 > "SteveD61" <sdergosi.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
 > news:jHgYa.18508$qg3.1121490@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
  > > Hope someone can help me with this problem. A new install of WindowsXP
Pro
  > > on a new build computer.
  > >
  > > Specs:
  > > MSI K7N2G-ILSR
  > > AMD AthlonXP 2500+
  > > Kingston HyperX PC2700 DDR Ram 512megs
  > > Western Digital EIDE HDD 80gigs (master on IDE0)
  > > Ricoh DVD+R/RW (master on IDE1) and a Lite On 48x CDR/RW (slave on IDE1)
  > > PS2 Keyboard and Mouse
  > > All newest drivers and patches.
  > >
  > > When I boot into Windows I can see the DVD drive in Windows Explorerand
in
  > > System Devices, everything looks ok, but I am unable to read anydisks I
 > put
  > > ito the drive. When I go to a dos prompt the drive is also notfound.
When
 > I
  > > boot up with a CD or DVD in the drive I am able to read theDVD fine in
  > > Windows Explorer and at a dos prompt until I reboot and forgetto leave a
  > > disk in the drive. I have tried swapping the CDR/RW and DVD+R/RWdrives
and
  > > then Windows can't read the CDR/RW drive. I have also tried changing the
 > HDD
  > > to IDE1 and the DVD+R/RW and CDR/RW drives to IDE0, also no good.This is
  > > starting to drive me a little batty ifanyone can help thanksin
  > > advance.sdergosi.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
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neopolaris

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:23 am
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Hopefully MSI will resolve this issue. I have seen it more times than I
care. WindowsXP with a MSI board and a burner=no joy.

"SteveD61" <sdergosi.DeleteThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:jHgYa.18508$qg3.1121490@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
 > Hope someone can help me with this problem. A new install of WindowsXP Pro
 > on a new build computer.
 >
 > Specs:
 > MSI K7N2G-ILSR
 > AMD AthlonXP 2500+
 > Kingston HyperX PC2700 DDR Ram 512megs
 > Western Digital EIDE HDD 80gigs (master on IDE0)
 > Ricoh DVD+R/RW (master on IDE1) and a Lite On 48x CDR/RW (slave on IDE1)
 > PS2 Keyboard and Mouse
 > All newest drivers and patches.
 >
 > When I boot into Windows I can see the DVD drive in Windows Explorerand in
 > System Devices, everything looks ok, but I am unable to read anydisks I
put
 > ito the drive. When I go to a dos prompt the drive is also notfound. When
I
 > boot up with a CD or DVD in the drive I am able to read theDVD fine in
 > Windows Explorer and at a dos prompt until I reboot and forgetto leave a
 > disk in the drive. I have tried swapping the CDR/RW and DVD+R/RWdrives and
 > then Windows can't read the CDR/RW drive. I have also tried changing the
HDD
 > to IDE1 and the DVD+R/RW and CDR/RW drives to IDE0, also no good.This is
 > starting to drive me a little batty ifanyone can help thanksin
 > advance.sdergosi.DeleteThis@tampabay.rr.com
 >
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:37 am
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:23:48 -0400, neopolaris pondered exceedingly, then took
quill in hand and carefully composed...

| Hopefully MSI will resolve this issue. I have seen it more times than I
| care. WindowsXP with a MSI board and a burner=no joy.

There is an update for MSI Live Update (3.51.00 dated Aug. 5). According to the
release note, "Fixed Bug: Access Optical Storage Drive fail under WinXP." This
will hopefully solve the problems.

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Never anonymous Bu1

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:09 am
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Separating himself from Baghdad Bob, "Dan G" <Dan.TakeThisOut@Dan.com> whined:

 >If this is a Nforce motherboard, make sure you are not using the Nforce IDE
 >controller driver. Use only the default MS controller driver.


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:09 am
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No, actually, it's not. The Nvidia controller drivers are well-known for
this exact sort of trouble, check any of the Nvidia and MB forums.
In fact, the Nvidia unified driver package no longer installs the driver in
Win2K and XP, due to all the problems. But many of the MB install CD's still
have older versions of the unified driver that do install the controller
driver.


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 > Separating himself from Baghdad Bob, "Dan G" <Dan.DeleteThis@Dan.com> whined:
 >
  > >If this is a Nforce motherboard, make sure you are not using the Nforce
IDE
  > >controller driver. Use only the default MS controller driver.
 >
 >
 > Horse pucky...
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
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 >
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:27 am
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Make sure that you are using the latest controller driver by Nvidia, it
fixes the problem that caused them to pull the driver from their website.

Dan G wrote:
 > No, actually, it's not. The Nvidia controller drivers are well-known for
 > this exact sort of trouble, check any of the Nvidia and MB forums.
 > In fact, the Nvidia unified driver package no longer installs the driver in
 > Win2K and XP, due to all the problems. But many of the MB install CD's still
 > have older versions of the unified driver that do install the controller
 > driver.
 >
 >
 > "Never anonymous Bud" <thekat.TakeThisOut@san.rxyzr.com> wrote in message
 > news:7hn3jv08rut4c94tffgcgl6gdkn08frsks@4ax.com...
 >
  >>Separating himself from Baghdad Bob, "Dan G" <Dan.TakeThisOut@Dan.com> whined:
  >>
  >>
   >>>If this is a Nforce motherboard, make sure you are not using the Nforce
 >
 > IDE
 >
   >>>controller driver. Use only the default MS controller driver.
  >>
  >>
  >>Horse pucky...
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:34 am
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Thanks Larc.

"Larc" <larc_rnc.RemoveThis@warmmail.com> wrote in message
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 > On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:23:48 -0400, neopolaris pondered exceedingly, then
took
 > quill in hand and carefully composed...
 >
 > | Hopefully MSI will resolve this issue. I have seen it more times than
I
 > | care. WindowsXP with a MSI board and a burner=no joy.
 >
 > There is an update for MSI Live Update (3.51.00 dated Aug. 5). According
to the
 > release note, "Fixed Bug: Access Optical Storage Drive fail under WinXP."
This
 > will hopefully solve the problems.
 >
 > Larc
 >
 >
 >
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:55 pm
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OK,
Do you have the latest version of MSI Live running??

If so, close it down and see if ya drives work.

I have MSIKT4 Ultra, with DVD drive and DVD burner.

Working great until 2 weeks ago when I downloaded and installed latest
MSI Live.

After that, same problem as you.
Shut it down (and now stop it loading at boot up) and no probs at all.

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 00:03:27 GMT, "SteveD61"
<sdergosi.DeleteThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

 >Hope someone can help me with this problem. A new install of WindowsXP Pro
 >on a new build computer.
 >
 >Specs:
 >MSI K7N2G-ILSR
 >AMD AthlonXP 2500+
 >Kingston HyperX PC2700 DDR Ram 512megs
 >Western Digital EIDE HDD 80gigs (master on IDE0)
 >Ricoh DVD+R/RW (master on IDE1) and a Lite On 48x CDR/RW (slave on IDE1)
 >PS2 Keyboard and Mouse
 >All newest drivers and patches.
 >
 >When I boot into Windows I can see the DVD drive in Windows Explorerand in
 >System Devices, everything looks ok, but I am unable to read anydisks I put
 >ito the drive. When I go to a dos prompt the drive is also notfound. When I
 >boot up with a CD or DVD in the drive I am able to read theDVD fine in
 >Windows Explorer and at a dos prompt until I reboot and forgetto leave a
 >disk in the drive. I have tried swapping the CDR/RW and DVD+R/RWdrives and
 >then Windows can't read the CDR/RW drive. I have also tried changing the HDD
 >to IDE1 and the DVD+R/RW and CDR/RW drives to IDE0, also no good.This is
 >starting to drive me a little batty ifanyone can help thanksin
 >advance.sdergosi@tampabay.rr.com
 >



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Moby

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:16 pm
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I get the same problem when I install XP Pro when I am in Explorer the cdrw
disappears. I try to look at the driver for it in the system devices and it
reports a problem with the atapi device driver.

I can boot from cd fine to install XP pro.. I don't believe it is an MSI
problem. I do believe it is a compatibility problem with XP and newer
Atapi devices for some reason. I got around this by installing a recent
version NERO right away.

I didn't have a problem when i installed XP Pro and had a 48x cdrw

What I had not tried is installing Service Pack 1 right away.. maybe that
has atapi updates ?

I do not run any of the MSI software

my hardware
msi 6590 bluetooth,no firewire,sata/promise ide3
WD 60gig master, Maxtor 60gig slave on IDE1
52x cdrw on IDE2


"SteveD61" <sdergosi.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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 > Hope someone can help me with this problem. A new install of WindowsXP Pro
 > on a new build computer.
 >
 > Specs:
 > MSI K7N2G-ILSR
 > AMD AthlonXP 2500+
 > Kingston HyperX PC2700 DDR Ram 512megs
 > Western Digital EIDE HDD 80gigs (master on IDE0)
 > Ricoh DVD+R/RW (master on IDE1) and a Lite On 48x CDR/RW (slave on IDE1)
 > PS2 Keyboard and Mouse
 > All newest drivers and patches.
 >
 > When I boot into Windows I can see the DVD drive in Windows Explorerand in
 > System Devices, everything looks ok, but I am unable to read anydisks I
put
 > ito the drive. When I go to a dos prompt the drive is also notfound. When
I
 > boot up with a CD or DVD in the drive I am able to read theDVD fine in
 > Windows Explorer and at a dos prompt until I reboot and forgetto leave a
 > disk in the drive. I have tried swapping the CDR/RW and DVD+R/RWdrives and
 > then Windows can't read the CDR/RW drive. I have also tried changing the
HDD
 > to IDE1 and the DVD+R/RW and CDR/RW drives to IDE0, also no good.This is
 > starting to drive me a little batty ifanyone can help thanksin
 > advance.sdergosi.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com
 >
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:12 am
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 04:37:13 GMT, Larc <larc_rnc.RemoveThis@warmmail.com> wrote:

 >On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 00:23:48 -0400, neopolaris pondered exceedingly, then took
 >quill in hand and carefully composed...
 >
 >| Hopefully MSI will resolve this issue. I have seen it more times than I
 >| care. WindowsXP with a MSI board and a burner=no joy.
 >
 >There is an update for MSI Live Update (3.51.00 dated Aug. 5). According to the
 >release note, "Fixed Bug: Access Optical Storage Drive fail under WinXP." This
 >will hopefully solve the problems.
 >
 >Larc

Thanks Larc,

Installed and everything works again Smile



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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:12 am
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 22:12:00 +0800, Moby pondered exceedingly, then took quill
in hand and carefully composed...

| >There is an update for MSI Live Update (3.51.00 dated Aug. 5). According to the
| >release note, "Fixed Bug: Access Optical Storage Drive fail under WinXP." This
| >will hopefully solve the problems.
| >
| >Larc
|
| Thanks Larc,
|
| Installed and everything works again Smile

You're very welcome! Glad things are back to normal.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:58 am
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 12:16:39 GMT, "Dave"
<dzins.DeleteThis@dor.state.wi.usREMOVETHIS> wrote:

 >I get the same problem when I install XP Pro when I am in Explorer the cdrw
 >disappears. I try to look at the driver for it in the system devices and it
 >reports a problem with the atapi device driver.
 >
I have had similar problems and they turned out to be related to
uninstalling Easy-cd creator 4 and/or Nero and/or upgrading stomp CD
recording software. There is a Microsoft Knowledgebase article, I
don't have the number here but if you google for "windows xp cdrom
disappeared" you should find it. It's to do with "upperfilters" and
"lowerfilters" keys in the CDROM class registry entry in HKLM, and it
fixed my problem.

My atapi Travan tape drive disappeared as well and I suspect it is a
similar and related problem, but I haven't figured out what class
entry to experiment with yet.

**awful warning** Poking About in the Registry can seriously damage
your health<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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