Dual Channel Memory Question

"Nystagmus" <eyesores.DeleteThis@blurredvision.org> wrote in message
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 >
 > "CiRcUiT" <jcodling.DeleteThis@jcodling.com> wrote in message
 > news:vlm834nmto112e@corp.supernews.com...
  > > I took the plunge and bought the following;
  > >
  > > Aopen AK79D-400VN NForce2 Ultra 400 MB
  > > AMD Barton 2500+
  > > 2x256MB DDR400 PC3200
  > >
  > > Everything works excellent. Right now, as I'm typing this, it just got
 > done
  > > it's burn in (Sandra) at 11x200 (2.2 GHz or 3200+ speeds) at a maximum
 > temp
  > > of 47ºC. Average was 44.5ºC. This is with the original AMD HSF! Can't
wait
  > > for water cooling! =D
  > >
  > > My only question is that I bought 2 sticks on RAM for dual channel
support
  > > but when I populate DIMM1 and DIMM3 it won't even POST. It just sits
there
  > > beeping one long beep which I assume means there is a memory problem. Is
 > it
  > > that dual channel needs all the slots populated? If so I will go out and
 > get
  > > a 512 stick to populate DIMM3. The only way I can get it to POST is with
 > the
  > > 256 sticks in D1 & D2. I am not new to computers, just the NForce2
 > chipset.
  > >
  > > Thanks for your help.
  > >
  > > Just in case my systems is:
  > > AMD Barton 2500+ at 3200+ (11x200)
  > > 2x256MB PC3200 DDR400 in Dimm1 and Dimm2
  > > Aopen AK79D-400VN
  > > MSI GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB (300 core/530 memory)
  > > Creative Soundblaster Live! 5.1 (Need the line in and mic connectors
w/5.1
  > > speakers and onboard sound can't do it)
  > > WD 80GB
  > > Seagate 15GB
  > > LG 40x12x40 CD-RW
  > > 8xDVD-ROM
  > >
 >
 > I have the AOpen AK79G Max which is close to your mainboard and according
to
 > Aopen's website share the same BIOS. I have two sticks of Apacer 256MB of
 > PC3200. First stick in DIMM 1 and the second stick in DIMM 3. When you
 > first boot up your computer in the BIOS screen just above the memory check
 > you should see a line that says, "Dual Boot Enabled" or something like
that.
 > That is how you know it is enabled. If you don't see it then....
 >
 > You didn't list the make of your RAM sticks. Are you using AOpen's
 > recommended PC3200? When PC3200 first came out there was no standard for
it
 > so all makers of PC3200 used differing specs. The following link will
take
 > you AOpen's web page listing the tested RAM that works for your mainboard.
 >
 >
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://swe.aopen.com.tw/testreport/mb/ListTestItem.asp?TestFunction=519&Mode" target="_blank">http://swe.aopen.com.tw/testreport/mb/ListTestItem.asp?TestFunction=519&Mode</a>
 > l=720
 >
 > I use Apacer RAM and it is working well in my system. You can find Apacer
 > RAM at
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com</font" target="_blank">www.newegg.com</font</a>>
 >
 > Good luck
 > Nystagmus

I cheaped out and didn't buy the 2x256 in a matched kit thinking it should
work. My ram is made by "elixer" and is not listed in that report. I'm going
to go back and get a matched pair if it's worth the hassle and the price
difference for dual channel. I'm going there next weekend anyway for a
better PSU and a neon to replace the one I broke when putting this thing
back together. (Do NOT lean on the neon tube... Do NOT lean on the neon
tube... Do NOT lean on the broken glass tube... ARG!)

I'm still not entirely sold on the benefits I would see in "real-world"
applications and games with dual-channel.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Dual Channel Memory Question 

Using 2 sticks of ram will enable Dual Channel, Dual channel is a feature
of the motherboard not the ram.
I guess your mainboard will be similar in that the ram slots have 2 together
and one on its own, 1 stick of ram in the single slot and 1 stick in the one
of the other 2 will enable dual channel.

doughnut


"CiRcUiT" <jcodling.TakeThisOut@jcodling.com> wrote in message
news:vlmcjc8d2ul310@corp.supernews.com...
 >
 > "Nystagmus" <eyesores.TakeThisOut@blurredvision.org> wrote in message
 > news:OLqdneQTauaktsaiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
  > >
  > > "CiRcUiT" <jcodling.TakeThisOut@jcodling.com> wrote in message
  > > news:vlm834nmto112e@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > I took the plunge and bought the following;
   > > >
   > > > Aopen AK79D-400VN NForce2 Ultra 400 MB
   > > > AMD Barton 2500+
   > > > 2x256MB DDR400 PC3200
   > > >
   > > > Everything works excellent. Right now, as I'm typing this, it just got
  > > done
   > > > it's burn in (Sandra) at 11x200 (2.2 GHz or 3200+ speeds) at a maximum
  > > temp
   > > > of 47ºC. Average was 44.5ºC. This is with the original AMD HSF! Can't
 > wait
   > > > for water cooling! =D
   > > >
   > > > My only question is that I bought 2 sticks on RAM for dual channel
 > support
   > > > but when I populate DIMM1 and DIMM3 it won't even POST. It just sits
 > there
   > > > beeping one long beep which I assume means there is a memory problem.
Is
  > > it
   > > > that dual channel needs all the slots populated? If so I will go out
and
  > > get
   > > > a 512 stick to populate DIMM3. The only way I can get it to POST is
with
  > > the
   > > > 256 sticks in D1 & D2. I am not new to computers, just the NForce2
  > > chipset.
   > > >
   > > > Thanks for your help.
   > > >
   > > > Just in case my systems is:
   > > > AMD Barton 2500+ at 3200+ (11x200)
   > > > 2x256MB PC3200 DDR400 in Dimm1 and Dimm2
   > > > Aopen AK79D-400VN
   > > > MSI GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB (300 core/530 memory)
   > > > Creative Soundblaster Live! 5.1 (Need the line in and mic connectors
 > w/5.1
   > > > speakers and onboard sound can't do it)
   > > > WD 80GB
   > > > Seagate 15GB
   > > > LG 40x12x40 CD-RW
   > > > 8xDVD-ROM
   > > >
  > >
  > > I have the AOpen AK79G Max which is close to your mainboard and
according
 > to
  > > Aopen's website share the same BIOS. I have two sticks of Apacer 256MB
of
  > > PC3200. First stick in DIMM 1 and the second stick in DIMM 3. When you
  > > first boot up your computer in the BIOS screen just above the memory
check
  > > you should see a line that says, "Dual Boot Enabled" or something like
 > that.
  > > That is how you know it is enabled. If you don't see it then....
  > >
  > > You didn't list the make of your RAM sticks. Are you using AOpen's
  > > recommended PC3200? When PC3200 first came out there was no standard
for
 > it
  > > so all makers of PC3200 used differing specs. The following link will
 > take
  > > you AOpen's web page listing the tested RAM that works for your
mainboard.
  > >
  > >
 >
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://swe.aopen.com.tw/testreport/mb/ListTestItem.asp?TestFunction=519&Mode" target="_blank">http://swe.aopen.com.tw/testreport/mb/ListTestItem.asp?TestFunction=519&Mode</a>
  > > l=720
  > >
  > > I use Apacer RAM and it is working well in my system. You can find
Apacer
  > > RAM at
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com</font" target="_blank">www.newegg.com</font</a>>
  > >
  > > Good luck
  > > Nystagmus
 >
 > I cheaped out and didn't buy the 2x256 in a matched kit thinking it should
 > work. My ram is made by "elixer" and is not listed in that report. I'm
going
 > to go back and get a matched pair if it's worth the hassle and the price
 > difference for dual channel. I'm going there next weekend anyway for a
 > better PSU and a neon to replace the one I broke when putting this thing
 > back together. (Do NOT lean on the neon tube... Do NOT lean on the neon
 > tube... Do NOT lean on the broken glass tube... ARG!)
 >
 > I'm still not entirely sold on the benefits I would see in "real-world"
 > applications and games with dual-channel.
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Dual Channel Memory Question 

Yes, my mb has 3 DIMM slots with 2 together and 1 seperated from the others.
Two are blue and the one next to DIMM1 is black. (As in
Blue/Black/Space/Blue) I put the RAM in 1 and 2 and everything works great
but no dual channel (as I expected). I put the RAM in 1 and 3 and can get
the board to post but not boot into XP. It resets before the loading screen
appears. Maybe I'm not seating the RAM properly. The store I go to has
matched kits of RAM specifically for Dual Channel (also with CL2) but these
sets are twice as much. If I can't get it to work by next weekend I'll just
bring this RAM back and get the matched set. I still don't see why it won't
work. Maybe I'll play with my RAM settings also... I'll keep this thread
posted...

In the end is all this trouble even worth it? Will dual channel really make
a difference?

"Doughnut" <doughnut DeleteThis @doughnut.com> wrote in message
news:3f5b4165$0$243$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com...
 > Using 2 sticks of ram will enable Dual Channel, Dual channel is a feature
 > of the motherboard not the ram.
 > I guess your mainboard will be similar in that the ram slots have 2
together
 > and one on its own, 1 stick of ram in the single slot and 1 stick in the
one
 > of the other 2 will enable dual channel.
 >
 > doughnut
 >
 >
 > "CiRcUiT" <jcodling DeleteThis @jcodling.com> wrote in message
 > news:vlmcjc8d2ul310@corp.supernews.com...
  > >
  > > "Nystagmus" <eyesores DeleteThis @blurredvision.org> wrote in message
  > > news:OLqdneQTauaktsaiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
   > > >
   > > > "CiRcUiT" <jcodling DeleteThis @jcodling.com> wrote in message
   > > > news:vlm834nmto112e@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > > I took the plunge and bought the following;
   > > > >
   > > > > Aopen AK79D-400VN NForce2 Ultra 400 MB
   > > > > AMD Barton 2500+
   > > > > 2x256MB DDR400 PC3200
   > > > >
   > > > > Everything works excellent. Right now, as I'm typing this, it just
got
   > > > done
   > > > > it's burn in (Sandra) at 11x200 (2.2 GHz or 3200+ speeds) at a
maximum
   > > > temp
   > > > > of 47ºC. Average was 44.5ºC. This is with the original AMD HSF!
Can't
  > > wait
   > > > > for water cooling! =D
   > > > >
   > > > > My only question is that I bought 2 sticks on RAM for dual channel
  > > support
   > > > > but when I populate DIMM1 and DIMM3 it won't even POST. It just sits
  > > there
   > > > > beeping one long beep which I assume means there is a memory
problem.
 > Is
   > > > it
   > > > > that dual channel needs all the slots populated? If so I will go out
 > and
   > > > get
   > > > > a 512 stick to populate DIMM3. The only way I can get it to POST is
 > with
   > > > the
   > > > > 256 sticks in D1 & D2. I am not new to computers, just the NForce2
   > > > chipset.
   > > > >
   > > > > Thanks for your help.
   > > > >
   > > > > Just in case my systems is:
   > > > > AMD Barton 2500+ at 3200+ (11x200)
   > > > > 2x256MB PC3200 DDR400 in Dimm1 and Dimm2
   > > > > Aopen AK79D-400VN
   > > > > MSI GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB (300 core/530 memory)
   > > > > Creative Soundblaster Live! 5.1 (Need the line in and mic connectors
  > > w/5.1
   > > > > speakers and onboard sound can't do it)
   > > > > WD 80GB
   > > > > Seagate 15GB
   > > > > LG 40x12x40 CD-RW
   > > > > 8xDVD-ROM
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > > I have the AOpen AK79G Max which is close to your mainboard and
 > according
  > > to
   > > > Aopen's website share the same BIOS. I have two sticks of Apacer
256MB
 > of
   > > > PC3200. First stick in DIMM 1 and the second stick in DIMM 3. When
you
   > > > first boot up your computer in the BIOS screen just above the memory
 > check
   > > > you should see a line that says, "Dual Boot Enabled" or something like
  > > that.
   > > > That is how you know it is enabled. If you don't see it then....
   > > >
   > > > You didn't list the make of your RAM sticks. Are you using AOpen's
   > > > recommended PC3200? When PC3200 first came out there was no standard
 > for
  > > it
   > > > so all makers of PC3200 used differing specs. The following link will
  > > take
   > > > you AOpen's web page listing the tested RAM that works for your
 > mainboard.
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
 >
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://swe.aopen.com.tw/testreport/mb/ListTestItem.asp?TestFunction=519&Mode" target="_blank">http://swe.aopen.com.tw/testreport/mb/ListTestItem.asp?TestFunction=519&Mode</a>
   > > > l=720
   > > >
   > > > I use Apacer RAM and it is working well in my system. You can find
 > Apacer
   > > > RAM at
   > > >
<font color=brown>   > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com</font" target="_blank">www.newegg.com</font</a>>
   > > >
   > > > Good luck
   > > > Nystagmus
  > >
  > > I cheaped out and didn't buy the 2x256 in a matched kit thinking it
should
  > > work. My ram is made by "elixer" and is not listed in that report. I'm
 > going
  > > to go back and get a matched pair if it's worth the hassle and the price
  > > difference for dual channel. I'm going there next weekend anyway for a
  > > better PSU and a neon to replace the one I broke when putting this thing
  > > back together. (Do NOT lean on the neon tube... Do NOT lean on the
neon
  > > tube... Do NOT lean on the broken glass tube... ARG!)
  > >
  > > I'm still not entirely sold on the benefits I would see in "real-world"
  > > applications and games with dual-channel.
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Dual Channel Memory Question 

"CiRcUiT" <jcodling.RemoveThis@jcodling.com> wrote in message
news:vln43ublpgglfd@corp.supernews.com...
 > Yes, my mb has 3 DIMM slots with 2 together and 1 seperated from the
others.
 > Two are blue and the one next to DIMM1 is black. (As in
 > Blue/Black/Space/Blue) I put the RAM in 1 and 2 and everything works great
 > but no dual channel (as I expected). I put the RAM in 1 and 3 and can get
 > the board to post but not boot into XP. It resets before the loading
screen
 > appears. Maybe I'm not seating the RAM properly. The store I go to has
 > matched kits of RAM specifically for Dual Channel (also with CL2) but
these
 > sets are twice as much. If I can't get it to work by next weekend I'll
just
 > bring this RAM back and get the matched set. I still don't see why it
won't
 > work. Maybe I'll play with my RAM settings also... I'll keep this thread
 > posted...
 >
 > In the end is all this trouble even worth it? Will dual channel really
make
 > a difference?


 > "Doughnut" <doughnut.RemoveThis@doughnut.com> wrote in message
 > news:3f5b4165$0$243$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com...
  > > Using 2 sticks of ram will enable Dual Channel, Dual channel is a
feature
  > > of the motherboard not the ram.
  > > I guess your mainboard will be similar in that the ram slots have 2
 > together
  > > and one on its own, 1 stick of ram in the single slot and 1 stick in the
 > one
  > > of the other 2 will enable dual channel.
  > >
  > > doughnut
  > >
  > >
  > > "CiRcUiT" <jcodling.RemoveThis@jcodling.com> wrote in message
  > > news:vlmcjc8d2ul310@corp.supernews.com...
   > > >
   > > > "Nystagmus" <eyesores.RemoveThis@blurredvision.org> wrote in message
   > > > news:OLqdneQTauaktsaiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
   > > > >
   > > > > "CiRcUiT" <jcodling.RemoveThis@jcodling.com> wrote in message
   > > > > news:vlm834nmto112e@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > > > I took the plunge and bought the following;
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Aopen AK79D-400VN NForce2 Ultra 400 MB
   > > > > > AMD Barton 2500+
   > > > > > 2x256MB DDR400 PC3200
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Everything works excellent. Right now, as I'm typing this, it just
 > got
   > > > > done
   > > > > > it's burn in (Sandra) at 11x200 (2.2 GHz or 3200+ speeds) at a
 > maximum
   > > > > temp
   > > > > > of 47ºC. Average was 44.5ºC. This is with the original AMD HSF!
 > Can't
   > > > wait
   > > > > > for water cooling! =D
   > > > > >
   > > > > > My only question is that I bought 2 sticks on RAM for dual channel
   > > > support
   > > > > > but when I populate DIMM1 and DIMM3 it won't even POST. It just
sits
   > > > there
   > > > > > beeping one long beep which I assume means there is a memory
 > problem.
  > > Is
   > > > > it
   > > > > > that dual channel needs all the slots populated? If so I will go
out
  > > and
   > > > > get
   > > > > > a 512 stick to populate DIMM3. The only way I can get it to POST
is
  > > with
   > > > > the
   > > > > > 256 sticks in D1 & D2. I am not new to computers, just the NForce2
   > > > > chipset.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Thanks for your help.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Just in case my systems is:
   > > > > > AMD Barton 2500+ at 3200+ (11x200)
   > > > > > 2x256MB PC3200 DDR400 in Dimm1 and Dimm2
   > > > > > Aopen AK79D-400VN
   > > > > > MSI GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB (300 core/530 memory)
   > > > > > Creative Soundblaster Live! 5.1 (Need the line in and mic
connectors
   > > > w/5.1
   > > > > > speakers and onboard sound can't do it)
   > > > > > WD 80GB
   > > > > > Seagate 15GB
   > > > > > LG 40x12x40 CD-RW
   > > > > > 8xDVD-ROM
   > > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > > I have the AOpen AK79G Max which is close to your mainboard and
  > > according
   > > > to
   > > > > Aopen's website share the same BIOS. I have two sticks of Apacer
 > 256MB
  > > of
   > > > > PC3200. First stick in DIMM 1 and the second stick in DIMM 3. When
 > you
   > > > > first boot up your computer in the BIOS screen just above the memory
  > > check
   > > > > you should see a line that says, "Dual Boot Enabled" or something
like
   > > > that.
   > > > > That is how you know it is enabled. If you don't see it then....
   > > > >
   > > > > You didn't list the make of your RAM sticks. Are you using AOpen's
   > > > > recommended PC3200? When PC3200 first came out there was no
standard
  > > for
   > > > it
   > > > > so all makers of PC3200 used differing specs. The following link
will
   > > > take
   > > > > you AOpen's web page listing the tested RAM that works for your
  > > mainboard.
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
  > >
 >
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://swe.aopen.com.tw/testreport/mb/ListTestItem.asp?TestFunction=519&Mode" target="_blank">http://swe.aopen.com.tw/testreport/mb/ListTestItem.asp?TestFunction=519&Mode</a>
   > > > > l=720
   > > > >
   > > > > I use Apacer RAM and it is working well in my system. You can find
  > > Apacer
   > > > > RAM at
   > > > >
<font color=brown>   > > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com</font" target="_blank">www.newegg.com</font</a>>
   > > > >
   > > > > Good luck
   > > > > Nystagmus
   > > >
   > > > I cheaped out and didn't buy the 2x256 in a matched kit thinking it
 > should
   > > > work. My ram is made by "elixer" and is not listed in that report. I'm
  > > going
   > > > to go back and get a matched pair if it's worth the hassle and the
price
   > > > difference for dual channel. I'm going there next weekend anyway for a
   > > > better PSU and a neon to replace the one I broke when putting this
thing
   > > > back together. (Do NOT lean on the neon tube... Do NOT lean on the
 > neon
   > > > tube... Do NOT lean on the broken glass tube... ARG!)
   > > >
   > > > I'm still not entirely sold on the benefits I would see in
"real-world"
   > > > applications and games with dual-channel.
   > > >
   > > >
  > >

You don't need to purchase matched kits of RAM. They cost too much and
don't offer any "real world" advantage. Just purchase two sticks of the
same RAM at the same time. Again, make sure the RAM is approved for your
mainboard.

There have been many posts stating that the difference between Dual and non
Dual is marginal in day to day computing. In gaming and OC'ing the answer
may be different. I don't game much other than Diablo II or Myst like games
and I don't OC since a AMD 2500 Barton Core is fast enough for everything I
do.

Nystagmus<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Dual Channel Memory Question 

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 15:35:22 +0100
"Doughnut" <doughnut DeleteThis @doughnut.com> wrote:

 > Using 2 sticks of ram will enable Dual Channel, Dual channel is a
 > feature of the motherboard not the ram.
 > I guess your mainboard will be similar in that the ram slots have 2
 > together and one on its own, 1 stick of ram in the single slot and 1
 > stick in the one of the other 2 will enable dual channel.

FWIW, the tests on the aopen site that say which slots were used use 1
and 3 mostly.
 >=20
 > doughnut
 >=20
 >=20
 > "CiRcUiT" <jcodling DeleteThis @jcodling.com> wrote in message
 > news:vlmcjc8d2ul310@corp.supernews.com...
  > >
  > > "Nystagmus" <eyesores DeleteThis @blurredvision.org> wrote in message
  > > news:OLqdneQTauaktsaiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
   > > >
   > > > "CiRcUiT" <jcodling DeleteThis @jcodling.com> wrote in message
   > > > news:vlm834nmto112e@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > > I took the plunge and bought the following;
   > > > >
   > > > > Aopen AK79D-400VN NForce2 Ultra 400 MB
   > > > > AMD Barton 2500+
   > > > > 2x256MB DDR400 PC3200
   > > > >
   > > > > Everything works excellent. Right now, as I'm typing this, it
   > > > > just got
   > > > done
   > > > > it's burn in (Sandra) at 11x200 (2.2 GHz or 3200+ speeds) at a
   > > > > maximum
   > > > temp
   > > > > of 47=BAC. Average was 44.5=BAC. This is with the original AMD HSF!
   > > > > Can't
  > > wait
   > > > > for water cooling! =3DD
   > > > >
   > > > > My only question is that I bought 2 sticks on RAM for dual
   > > > > channel
  > > support
   > > > > but when I populate DIMM1 and DIMM3 it won't even POST. It just
   > > > > sits
  > > there
   > > > > beeping one long beep which I assume means there is a memory
   > > > > problem.
 > Is
   > > > it
   > > > > that dual channel needs all the slots populated? If so I will go
   > > > > out
 > and
   > > > get
   > > > > a 512 stick to populate DIMM3. The only way I can get it to POST
   > > > > is
 > with
   > > > the
   > > > > 256 sticks in D1 & D2. I am not new to computers, just the
   > > > > NForce2
   > > > chipset.
   > > > >
   > > > > Thanks for your help.
   > > > >
   > > > > Just in case my systems is:
   > > > > AMD Barton 2500+ at 3200+ (11x200)
   > > > > 2x256MB PC3200 DDR400 in Dimm1 and Dimm2
   > > > > Aopen AK79D-400VN
   > > > > MSI GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB (300 core/530 memory)
   > > > > Creative Soundblaster Live! 5.1 (Need the line in and mic
   > > > > connectors
  > > w/5.1
   > > > > speakers and onboard sound can't do it)
   > > > > WD 80GB
   > > > > Seagate 15GB
   > > > > LG 40x12x40 CD-RW
   > > > > 8xDVD-ROM
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > > I have the AOpen AK79G Max which is close to your mainboard and
 > according
  > > to
   > > > Aopen's website share the same BIOS. I have two sticks of Apacer
   > > > 256MB
 > of
   > > > PC3200. First stick in DIMM 1 and the second stick in DIMM 3.=20
   > > > When you first boot up your computer in the BIOS screen just above
   > > > the memory
 > check
   > > > you should see a line that says, "Dual Boot Enabled" or something
   > > > like
  > > that.
   > > > That is how you know it is enabled. If you don't see it then....
   > > >
   > > > You didn't list the make of your RAM sticks. Are you using
   > > > AOpen's recommended PC3200? When PC3200 first came out there was
   > > > no standard
 > for
  > > it
   > > > so all makers of PC3200 used differing specs. The following link
   > > > will
  > > take
   > > > you AOpen's web page listing the tested RAM that works for your
 > mainboard.
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://swe.aopen.com.tw/testreport/mb/ListTestItem.asp?TestFunction=3D519=</font" target="_blank">http://swe.aopen.com.tw/testreport/mb/ListTestItem.asp?TestFunction=3D...=</f</a>>
&Mode
   > > > l=3D720
   > > >
   > > > I use Apacer RAM and it is working well in my system. You can
   > > > find
 > Apacer
   > > > RAM at
   > > >
<font color=brown>   > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com</font" target="_blank">www.newegg.com</font</a>>
   > > >
   > > > Good luck
   > > > Nystagmus
  > >
  > > I cheaped out and didn't buy the 2x256 in a matched kit thinking it
  > > should work. My ram is made by "elixer" and is not listed in that
  > > report. I'm
 > going
  > > to go back and get a matched pair if it's worth the hassle and the
  > > price difference for dual channel. I'm going there next weekend
  > > anyway for a better PSU and a neon to replace the one I broke when
  > > putting this thing back together. (Do NOT lean on the neon
  > > tube... Do NOT lean on the neon tube... Do NOT lean on the broken
  > > glass tube... ARG!)
  > >
  > > I'm still not entirely sold on the benefits I would see in
  > > "real-world" applications and games with dual-channel.
  > >
  > >
 >=20
 >=20


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CiRcUiT wrote:
 > I cheaped out and didn't buy the 2x256 in a matched kit thinking it
 > should work. My ram is made by "elixer" and is not listed in that
 > report.

Don't pay a premium for "Dual Channel Ram" or "Matched pairs", just buy two
the same.

I purchased Corsair TwinX 'cos it was cheaper than 2 seperate modules.

Don't buy cheap ram either.

Have you tried slots 2 and 3? (where slot 1 is closest to CPU, slot 3 is
furthest)

Have you tried increasing the latency? Are you running in synch? (ram at
100% of FSB speed)

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I haven't tried DIMM2 and DIMM3. I never thought to try it. D1 & D3 will
post but won't even load XP even with lower RAM timings. I'll try D2 & D3
and see. It would be better if I could find RAM that has been approved by
Aopen for the board but the brand of RAM they sell is "elixer" which hasn't
been tested by Aopen.

This system got a little flakey today at 200x11 so I put the vcore to 1.65
and it seems stable again. Just ran 3Dmark2k3 and got 1711. 3Dmark2k1 is
12684.

"Ben Pope" <spam.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > CiRcUiT wrote:
  > > I cheaped out and didn't buy the 2x256 in a matched kit thinking it
  > > should work. My ram is made by "elixer" and is not listed in that
  > > report.
 >
 > Don't pay a premium for "Dual Channel Ram" or "Matched pairs", just buy
two
 > the same.
 >
 > I purchased Corsair TwinX 'cos it was cheaper than 2 seperate modules.
 >
 > Don't buy cheap ram either.
 >
 > Have you tried slots 2 and 3? (where slot 1 is closest to CPU, slot 3 is
 > furthest)
 >
 > Have you tried increasing the latency? Are you running in synch? (ram at
 > 100% of FSB speed)
 >
 > Ben
 > --
 > I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...
 >
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Didn't work... Same as usual. Will POST but no xp. I'm just going to bite
the bullet and buy the matched pair next weekend. They better exchange this
cheap ass ram ($75/stick=$150 CND) for the matched pair ($240 CND) though.
They are pretty good about that sort of thing. I buy alot from them as I
build systems for family and friends and friends of theirs and etc... So
much for my adventures is dual channel for now.

"CiRcUiT" <jcodling RemoveThis @jcodling.com> wrote in message
news:vlnmg4b42fkk4d@corp.supernews.com...
 > I haven't tried DIMM2 and DIMM3. I never thought to try it. D1 & D3 will
 > post but won't even load XP even with lower RAM timings. I'll try D2 & D3
 > and see. It would be better if I could find RAM that has been approved by
 > Aopen for the board but the brand of RAM they sell is "elixer" which
hasn't
 > been tested by Aopen.
 >
 > This system got a little flakey today at 200x11 so I put the vcore to 1.65
 > and it seems stable again. Just ran 3Dmark2k3 and got 1711. 3Dmark2k1 is
 > 12684.
 >
 > "Ben Pope" <spam RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:bjgbjm$ih43r$1@ID-191149.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > > CiRcUiT wrote:
   > > > I cheaped out and didn't buy the 2x256 in a matched kit thinking it
   > > > should work. My ram is made by "elixer" and is not listed in that
   > > > report.
  > >
  > > Don't pay a premium for "Dual Channel Ram" or "Matched pairs", just buy
 > two
  > > the same.
  > >
  > > I purchased Corsair TwinX 'cos it was cheaper than 2 seperate modules.
  > >
  > > Don't buy cheap ram either.
  > >
  > > Have you tried slots 2 and 3? (where slot 1 is closest to CPU, slot 3
is
  > > furthest)
  > >
  > > Have you tried increasing the latency? Are you running in synch? (ram
at
  > > 100% of FSB speed)
  > >
  > > Ben
  > > --
  > > I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...
  > >
  > >
 >
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CiRcUiT wrote:
 > I haven't tried DIMM2 and DIMM3. I never thought to try it. D1 & D3
 > will post but won't even load XP even with lower RAM timings. I'll
 > try D2 & D3 and see. It would be better if I could find RAM that has
 > been approved by Aopen for the board but the brand of RAM they sell
 > is "elixer" which hasn't been tested by Aopen.
 >
 > This system got a little flakey today at 200x11 so I put the vcore to
 > 1.65 and it seems stable again. Just ran 3Dmark2k3 and got 1711.
 > 3Dmark2k1 is 12684.

What WAS vcore? It should be 1.65V...

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 >
 > What WAS vcore? It should be 1.65V...

1.50V for some reason. I may have changed it by accident but I doubt it.

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CiRcUiT wrote:
 > "Ben Pope" <spam.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:bjj3fe$k12mi$1@ID-191149.news.uni-berlin.de...
  >>
  >> What WAS vcore? It should be 1.65V...
 >
 > 1.50V for some reason. I may have changed it by accident but I doubt
 > it.
 >
 > I still don't know if it worth the hassle to get better RAM for dual
 > channel or not... any suggestions from anyone?


The answer is the same as the asnwer to this question:
Do you use onboard video?

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Not at all. In fact I purposely didn't get onboard video.

Thanks for the help. Now I think I'm going to try and return the 2x256 and
get 2x512 instead and not worry about dual channel at all.

"Ben Pope" <spam DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > CiRcUiT wrote:
  > > "Ben Pope" <spam DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
  > > news:bjj3fe$k12mi$1@ID-191149.news.uni-berlin.de...
   > >>
   > >> What WAS vcore? It should be 1.65V...
  > >
  > > 1.50V for some reason. I may have changed it by accident but I doubt
  > > it.
  > >
  > > I still don't know if it worth the hassle to get better RAM for dual
  > > channel or not... any suggestions from anyone?
 >
 >
 > The answer is the same as the asnwer to this question:
 > Do you use onboard video?
 >
 > Ben
 > --
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CiRcUiT wrote:
 > Not at all. In fact I purposely didn't get onboard video.

Then you will gain very little by going dual channel.

 > Thanks for the help. Now I think I'm going to try and return the
 > 2x256 and get 2x512 instead and not worry about dual channel at all.


Err... with 2 DIMMS you can get Dual channel. (Motherboard dependant,
obviously)

Ben
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