External cache & 503+

"Kyle Brant" <me RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message news:c2egoi$1r2t4t$1@ID-57815.news.uni-berlin.de...
 > Enable the external cache, particularly if you do not have a "+" type
 > cpu, it makes a huge difference. Also, leave the cpu internal cache
 > enabled. Video BIOS shadow is typically ok, but makes little
 > difference once windows is running, as the video driver replaces the
 > functions in the video BIOS.
 >
Many thanks Kyle, I cannot understand why this 503+ is so difficult
to re-install W98SE and yet XP & Linux is not, I doubt whether
it is a "+" CPU only that it is an AMD 500.

The one thing I have never tried is the Load BIOS & SETUP defaults,
in fact never even looked at these two options, as I assume that changes
would be done without options, any advice on this.

Den<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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In article <c2ejhv$1g6$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Den <Den@NoSpamOrNoCorned
Beef.unlimited-But-Was-Limited.RIP> wrote
 >
 >"Kyle Brant" <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote in message news:c2egoi$1r2t4t$1@ID-
 >57815.news.uni-berlin.de...
  >> Enable the external cache, particularly if you do not have a "+" type
  >> cpu, it makes a huge difference. Also, leave the cpu internal cache
  >> enabled. Video BIOS shadow is typically ok, but makes little
  >> difference once windows is running, as the video driver replaces the
  >> functions in the video BIOS.
  >>
 >Many thanks Kyle, I cannot understand why this 503+ is so difficult
 >to re-install W98SE and yet XP & Linux is not, I doubt whether
 >it is a "+" CPU only that it is an AMD 500.
 >
 >The one thing I have never tried is the Load BIOS & SETUP defaults,
 >in fact never even looked at these two options, as I assume that changes
 >would be done without options, any advice on this.
 >
Shot in the dark - what size partition for W98?
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Roger Hunt<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Roger Hunt"
 > Shot in the dark - what size partition for W98?
 >
Yes this could be it, though I was under the impression
that a larger than 32GB partition would cause problems

The first drive was an 80GB partitioned into 4 of 20GB each, but the
second drive I tried was originaly a 20GB, partitioned to a 10, 5 and 5 this
was within the limits of the old formatting limit of 32GB,so I thought..
Though the first 10GB partition was is now unusable owing to it being
used by Linux and I have no idea how to remove it.

But I have now reverted to an older 6.4GB to get it up and running,
and what a nice change to have W98SE go though without the long
processes and even longer hangups.

Den<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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If you want to remove that Linux partition, just run FDISK fron your Win98SE
setup boot disk. Go to the option to remove partitions, and remove the
partitions starting from the end of the disk. The Linux partition will probably
show up as a "Non-DOS" partition.

Or, you can download the diagnostic tools from your hard drive's manufacturer
and perform a low-level format of the drive. That will get rid of everything!

--Alex


Den wrote:

 > "Roger Hunt"
  > > Shot in the dark - what size partition for W98?
  > >
 > Yes this could be it, though I was under the impression
 > that a larger than 32GB partition would cause problems
 >
 > The first drive was an 80GB partitioned into 4 of 20GB each, but the
 > second drive I tried was originaly a 20GB, partitioned to a 10, 5 and 5 this
 > was within the limits of the old formatting limit of 32GB,so I thought..
 > Though the first 10GB partition was is now unusable owing to it being
 > used by Linux and I have no idea how to remove it.
 >
 > But I have now reverted to an older 6.4GB to get it up and running,
 > and what a nice change to have W98SE go though without the long
 > processes and even longer hangups.
 >
 > Den<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Den" <Den.DeleteThis@NoSpamOrNoCornedBeef.unlimited-But-Was-Limited.RIP> wrote in
message news:c2ejhv$1g6$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
 >
 > "Kyle Brant" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:c2egoi$1r2t4t$1@ID-57815.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > > Enable the external cache, particularly if you do not have a "+" type
  > > cpu, it makes a huge difference. Also, leave the cpu internal cache
  > > enabled. Video BIOS shadow is typically ok, but makes little
  > > difference once windows is running, as the video driver replaces the
  > > functions in the video BIOS.
  > >
 > Many thanks Kyle, I cannot understand why this 503+ is so difficult
 > to re-install W98SE and yet XP & Linux is not, I doubt whether
 > it is a "+" CPU only that it is an AMD 500.
 >
 > The one thing I have never tried is the Load BIOS & SETUP defaults,
 > in fact never even looked at these two options, as I assume that changes
 > would be done without options, any advice on this.
 >
 > Den

Actually I would have started with the Load BIOS/SetUp defaults and gone on
from there. Easier then to try your own changes one at a time. This is
normal practice once the BIOS has been updated and a good basis otherwise.
More than likely something completely different - Power Management or IRQs
for example are evergreens

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Alex Zorrilla wrote:
 > If you want to remove that Linux partition, just run FDISK fron your Win98SE
 > setup boot disk. Go to the option to remove partitions, and remove the
 > partitions starting from the end of the disk. The Linux partition will probably
 > show up as a "Non-DOS" partition.
 >
 > Or, you can download the diagnostic tools from your hard drive's manufacturer
 > and perform a low-level format of the drive. That will get rid of everything!
 >
 > --Alex
 >
 >
 > Den wrote:
 >
 >
  >>"Roger Hunt"
  >>
   >>>Shot in the dark - what size partition for W98?
   >>>
  >>
  >>Yes this could be it, though I was under the impression
  >>that a larger than 32GB partition would cause problems
  >>
  >>The first drive was an 80GB partitioned into 4 of 20GB each, but the
  >>second drive I tried was originaly a 20GB, partitioned to a 10, 5 and 5 this
  >>was within the limits of the old formatting limit of 32GB,so I thought..
  >>Though the first 10GB partition was is now unusable owing to it being
  >>used by Linux and I have no idea how to remove it.
  >>
  >>But I have now reverted to an older 6.4GB to get it up and running,
  >>and what a nice change to have W98SE go though without the long
  >>processes and even longer hangups.
  >>
  >>Den
 >
 >
not heard of any 32 GB limitation, I have formatted two 80 GB
drives with FAT32 no problem. you talking about a BIOS limitation ?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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The original BIOSes had a 32 GB limitation. The newer "beta" versions fixed this
problem, as well as adding support for the K6-2+ and K6-III+ processors.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.fic.com.tw/support/motherboard/faq.aspx?model_id=19#qid210" target="_blank">http://www.fic.com.tw/support/motherboard/faq.aspx?model_id=19#qid210</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://ftp.fic.com.tw/motherboard/bios/socket7/va-503+/JE4333.zip" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.fic.com.tw/motherboard/bios/socket7/va-503+/JE4333.zip</a>

--Alex


farmuse wrote:

 > Alex Zorrilla wrote:
  > > If you want to remove that Linux partition, just run FDISK fron your Win98SE
  > > setup boot disk. Go to the option to remove partitions, and remove the
  > > partitions starting from the end of the disk. The Linux partition will probably
  > > show up as a "Non-DOS" partition.
  > >
  > > Or, you can download the diagnostic tools from your hard drive's manufacturer
  > > and perform a low-level format of the drive. That will get rid of everything!
  > >
  > > --Alex
  > >
  > >
  > > Den wrote:
  > >
  > >
   > >>"Roger Hunt"
   > >>
   > >>>Shot in the dark - what size partition for W98?
   > >>>
   > >>
   > >>Yes this could be it, though I was under the impression
   > >>that a larger than 32GB partition would cause problems
   > >>
   > >>The first drive was an 80GB partitioned into 4 of 20GB each, but the
   > >>second drive I tried was originaly a 20GB, partitioned to a 10, 5 and 5 this
   > >>was within the limits of the old formatting limit of 32GB,so I thought..
   > >>Though the first 10GB partition was is now unusable owing to it being
   > >>used by Linux and I have no idea how to remove it.
   > >>
   > >>But I have now reverted to an older 6.4GB to get it up and running,
   > >>and what a nice change to have W98SE go though without the long
   > >>processes and even longer hangups.
   > >>
   > >>Den
  > >
  > >
 > not heard of any 32 GB limitation, I have formatted two 80 GB
 > drives with FAT32 no problem. you talking about a BIOS limitation ?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Thanks all the 503+ is up and running even better than ever,
I realised my mistake concerning the HD limit and also thanks
to Alex for the Linux removal tip.
I did at the start install the Via3in1, then forgot about it, but finally
I installed the 4in1440v(a) version.

I seem to think their are other updates but everything seem to be
running OK at the moment. Just about to try those that Kyle suggested.

Den
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