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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:16 am
Post subject: Eyes get used to certain refresh rate ?
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Hi everybody,
For more than 6 years I used a CRT montior with 60hz refresh rate and never
felt disturbed by the flickering, but now after using a samsung 757DFX 17"
set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz monitor
for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz does
bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?
and my second question, does using "max refresh rate" instead of
"recommended refresh rate" (both specified by the manufacturer) have
noticable effect on the life and stability of the monitor?
the 100hz I'm using on my monitor is the 'maximum' and the 'recommended' is
85hz, I've not noticed any problem in the past 12 months and the image has
great sharpness and brightness, I'm going to switch to a 22" and need to
know the answer to above questions to be able to choose the best which is
appropriate for me in the options that I have.
Thanks in advance,
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:16 am
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:16:55 +0330, "Arash Dejkam"
<dejkam RemoveThis @softhome.net> wrote:
>For more than 6 years I used a CRT montior with 60hz refresh rate and never
>felt disturbed by the flickering, but now after using a samsung 757DFX 17"
>set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz monitor
>for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz does
>bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?
My eyes have become a lot more sensitive to refresh rates and
framerates since I got a Voodoo 1 back in the day and got seriously
into PC gaming. Unfortunately it makes it uncomfortable for me when I
go to a movie theatre these days as the low frame rate makes my eyes
ache during panning shots.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:16 am
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I had the same problem, it got where I couldn't even handle
100hz on mine. I solved mine by getting a LCD and now I
don't get any headaches and my eyes don't suffer anymore
like it did on the CRT. LCD is at 60hz but no flickering.
LCD are fine at 60hz but not for a CRT.
In article <bv93lr$pqj5m$1@ID-97842.news.uni-berlin.de>,
dejkam.RemoveThis@softhome.net says...
> set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz monitor
> for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz does
> bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Eyes get used to certain refresh rate ? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:16 am
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"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:16:55 +0330, "Arash Dejkam"
> <dejkam.RemoveThis@softhome.net> wrote:
>
> >For more than 6 years I used a CRT montior with 60hz refresh rate and
never
> >felt disturbed by the flickering, but now after using a samsung 757DFX
17"
> >set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz
monitor
> >for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz does
> >bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?
>
> My eyes have become a lot more sensitive to refresh rates and
> framerates since I got a Voodoo 1 back in the day and got seriously
> into PC gaming. Unfortunately it makes it uncomfortable for me when I
> go to a movie theatre these days as the low frame rate makes my eyes
> ache during panning shots.
Well the Blair Witch Project made me want to puke. Wasn't sure whether it
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:16 am
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:52:15 +0000 Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> meeped :
>On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:16:55 +0330, "Arash Dejkam"
><dejkam.TakeThisOut@softhome.net> wrote:
>
>>For more than 6 years I used a CRT montior with 60hz refresh rate and never
>>felt disturbed by the flickering, but now after using a samsung 757DFX 17"
>>set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz monitor
>>for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz does
>>bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?
>
>My eyes have become a lot more sensitive to refresh rates and
>framerates since I got a Voodoo 1 back in the day and got seriously
>into PC gaming. Unfortunately it makes it uncomfortable for me when I
>go to a movie theatre these days as the low frame rate makes my eyes
>ache during panning shots.
yep..
the cinemas a bit of a nightmare nowadays
whenever there's a bright scene it's like a sodding massive strobe !<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Eyes get used to certain refresh rate ? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:16 am
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"Granulated" <doh DeleteThis @troublesomeodoursfreeuk.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:52:15 +0000 Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> meeped :
>
> >On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:16:55 +0330, "Arash Dejkam"
> ><dejkam DeleteThis @softhome.net> wrote:
> >
> >>For more than 6 years I used a CRT montior with 60hz refresh rate and
never
> >>felt disturbed by the flickering, but now after using a samsung 757DFX
17"
> >>set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz
monitor
> >>for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz does
> >>bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?
> >
> >My eyes have become a lot more sensitive to refresh rates and
> >framerates since I got a Voodoo 1 back in the day and got seriously
> >into PC gaming. Unfortunately it makes it uncomfortable for me when I
> >go to a movie theatre these days as the low frame rate makes my eyes
> >ache during panning shots.
>
> yep..
>
>
> the cinemas a bit of a nightmare nowadays
>
> whenever there's a bright scene it's like a sodding massive strobe !
Do you get the same effect when you go to the local market with all the
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:07 am
Post subject: Re: Eyes get used to certain refresh rate ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:52:15 +0000, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:16:55 +0330, "Arash Dejkam"
><dejkam.DeleteThis@softhome.net> wrote:
>
>>For more than 6 years I used a CRT montior with 60hz refresh rate and never
>>felt disturbed by the flickering, but now after using a samsung 757DFX 17"
>>set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz monitor
>>for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz does
>>bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?
>
>My eyes have become a lot more sensitive to refresh rates and
>framerates since I got a Voodoo 1 back in the day and got seriously
>into PC gaming. Unfortunately it makes it uncomfortable for me when I
>go to a movie theatre these days as the low frame rate makes my eyes
>ache during panning shots.
It means youre using the computer too damn much.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:07 am
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> Remember when real men used Real computers!?
> When 512K of video RAM was a lot!
>
> Death to Palladium & WPA!!
God I hate those quotes.
1.) I remember when 16K of SYSTEM RAM was a lot.
2.) Palladium is way better than most out there.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:08 am
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:03:41 GMT, "FLY135" <fly_135(@ hot not
not)notmail.com> wrote:
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>"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:16:55 +0330, "Arash Dejkam"
>> <dejkam RemoveThis @softhome.net> wrote:
>>
>> >For more than 6 years I used a CRT montior with 60hz refresh rate and
>never
>> >felt disturbed by the flickering, but now after using a samsung 757DFX
>17"
>> >set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz
>monitor
>> >for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz does
>> >bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?
>>
>> My eyes have become a lot more sensitive to refresh rates and
>> framerates since I got a Voodoo 1 back in the day and got seriously
>> into PC gaming. Unfortunately it makes it uncomfortable for me when I
>> go to a movie theatre these days as the low frame rate makes my eyes
>> ache during panning shots.
>
>Well the Blair Witch Project made me want to puke. Wasn't sure whether it
>was the acting or the camera motion.
>
both.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:42 am
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KauMoToe <KauMoToe DeleteThis @remove.yahoo.com> wrote:
>I had the same problem,
What problem, top poster?
Oh, I see, you expect everyone to scroll down into the message below
to figure-out what you are referring to, then back to the top to read
your message.
> it got where I couldn't even handle
>100hz on mine. I solved mine by getting a LCD and now I
>don't get any headaches and my eyes don't suffer anymore
>like it did on the CRT. LCD is at 60hz but no flickering.
>LCD are fine at 60hz but not for a CRT.
I get a headache seeing top posts.
>In article <bv93lr$pqj5m$1@ID-97842.news.uni-berlin.de>,
>dejkam@softhome.net says...
>
>> set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz monitor
>> for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz does
>> bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Eyes get used to certain refresh rate ? |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:13 pm
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I get headaches with self appointed forum cops..
"chrisv" <chrisv.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> KauMoToe <KauMoToe.DeleteThis@remove.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I had the same problem,
>
> What problem, top poster?
>
> Oh, I see, you expect everyone to scroll down into the message below
> to figure-out what you are referring to, then back to the top to read
> your message.
>
> > it got where I couldn't even handle
> >100hz on mine. I solved mine by getting a LCD and now I
> >don't get any headaches and my eyes don't suffer anymore
> >like it did on the CRT. LCD is at 60hz but no flickering.
> >LCD are fine at 60hz but not for a CRT.
>
> I get a headache seeing top posts.
>
> >In article <bv93lr$pqj5m$1@ID-97842.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> >dejkam@softhome.net says...
> >
> >> set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz
monitor
> >> for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz
does
> >> bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:31 pm
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"Arash Dejkam" <dejkam DeleteThis @softhome.net> wrote in message news:bv93lr$pqj5m$1@ID-97842.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Hi everybody,
>
> For more than 6 years I used a CRT montior with 60hz refresh rate and never
> felt disturbed by the flickering, but now after using a samsung 757DFX 17"
> set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz monitor
> for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz does
> bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?
Sure. When Americans visit West European countries using the PAL television standard they really notice the
screen flicker unlike Europeans. It's only 50Hz. But then Europeans notice the low resolution of NTSC and the
hepatitis looking skin tones of the people on TV.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:55 pm
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:46 pm
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"chrisv" <chrisv DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Don Sly" <tdsly-nospam DeleteThis @sk.sympatico.ca> wrote:
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> >I get headaches with self appointed forum cops..
>
> I was just pointing-out some lazy, selfish behavior...
>
According to you . Not according to others.
Your way is not the only way or the correct or right way.
Just your opinion to do it your way.
Nothing more.
Lots of people prefer top posting and reading top posting.
As far as my opinion goes.
Some threads are more suited to top or bottom posting.
I can read both ways just fine and dandy.
I don't go telling other posters how what when they can or can't shoulda
would coulda be posting.
Control freaks and Forum cops do annoy me.
Rarely ever is anything worthwhile added to the thread.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:35 pm
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me too 
"Don Sly" <tdsly-nospam DeleteThis @sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> I get headaches with self appointed forum cops..
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> "chrisv" <chrisv DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hq6i10paef5btp14uqt7crps5qio349s9q@4ax.com...
> > KauMoToe <KauMoToe DeleteThis @remove.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I had the same problem,
> >
> > What problem, top poster?
> >
> > Oh, I see, you expect everyone to scroll down into the message below
> > to figure-out what you are referring to, then back to the top to read
> > your message.
> >
> > > it got where I couldn't even handle
> > >100hz on mine. I solved mine by getting a LCD and now I
> > >don't get any headaches and my eyes don't suffer anymore
> > >like it did on the CRT. LCD is at 60hz but no flickering.
> > >LCD are fine at 60hz but not for a CRT.
> >
> > I get a headache seeing top posts.
> >
> > >In article <bv93lr$pqj5m$1@ID-97842.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> > >dejkam@softhome.net says...
> > >
> > >> set to 1152x864@ 100hz for about a year I can't sit behind a 60hz
> monitor
> > >> for more than 10 minutes or I get headache, even flickering at 85hz
> does
> > >> bother me! does this mean my eyes are used to 100hz refresh rate?
> >
>
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