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I'll second that statement. It's how both of my retail boxed P4's came.
However, there was not plastic sheet covering the thermal pad. Best option
is to scrape off the thermal pad and use thermal grease, anyway.

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Harry stood up at show-n-tell, in
5mh3uv0t0qf15b6gg02fv98isl7kdnl8ei.RemoveThis@4ax.com, and said:

 > If the leaf you mention is like a thin film of plastic with an edge
 > that is flapping around , just iching to be pulled, then take it off.
 > It is the protective strip covering the thermal pad on the Heatsink.
 >
 > So I dont get blamed for getting it wrong and trashing your CPU get
 > another guy here to confirm what I have just said before you carry on.
 >
 > HTH
 >
 > Harry
 >
 >
 >
 > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:03:41 +0200, "Grigoris Dermitzakis"
 > <ph2050.RemoveThis@edu.physics.uoc.gr> wrote:
 >
  >> Hello I have two questions:
  >> 1.Which is the normal temperature for a Celeron 2500MHz?
  >> 2.I bought a Celeron 2500MHz (BOX version). The standard fan which
  >> has inside the box,
  >> has a black metallic leaf on the surface that touch the CPU.My
  >> question is,if I have to
  >> remove it or not? (or this leaf will remain between CPU and Fan)
  >>
  >> Thanks
  >> Grigoris

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Grigoris Dermitzakis <ph2050.DeleteThis@edu.physics.uoc.gr> wrote:
 > Hello I have two questions:
 > 1.Which is the normal temperature for a Celeron 2500MHz?
 > 2.I bought a Celeron 2500MHz (BOX version). The standard fan which has
 > inside the box,
 > has a black metallic leaf on the surface that touch the CPU.My
 > question is,if I have to
 > remove it or not? (or this leaf will remain between CPU and Fan)

Read the installation booklet that came with the CPU.

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 > Read the installation booklet that came with the CPU.
 >
It doesn't give any help...
It just say how the fan clinch with the CPU...

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Grigoris Dermitzakis <ph2050.TakeThisOut@edu.physics.uoc.gr> wrote:
  >> Read the installation booklet that came with the CPU.
  >>
 > It doesn't give any help...
 > It just say how the fan clinch with the CPU...

Strange. I guess we get better instructions here in the US, but then again
we usually get TOO good instructions (like warnings that sleeping pills may
cause drowsiness, or that razor blades should not be ingested).

It's a thermal pad, a thin piece of aluminium coated with black gunk on both
sides. It's supposed to be there, as it ensures better contact between teh
heat sink and CPU sink. If you want better heat transfer, you can peel it
off, and remove the black gunk (which might take some time, especially on
the heat sink -- you might want to sacrifice a cotton dremel pad for
removing it), and then use thermal paste instead. Make sure it's thermal
paste and not thermal epoxy (which is a glue you'll never get off later).
For most thermal pastes, that would be a VERY thin layer -- thin to the
point of almost being translucent.
For even better results with the standard heat sink, use 000 steel wool or
similar followed by a very fine polishing pad on a flat surface. After
this, wash the surface to remove any invisible debris, before applying it
with thermal paste. If doing this (called "lapping"), be careful that you
keep the surface very flat, so you don't make it convex or concave.

The thermal paste instead of thermal pad should knock your CPU temp down a
couple of degrees, and the lapping likewise.

If you don't plan to overclock, though, and motherboard and/or BIOS monitors
show a temperature that isn't too high, just leave the sticker. It's better
than nothing, and works well for the designed speed. Since it's a retail
box CPU, you also retain the warranty by leaving it on.

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Arthur Hagen wrote:
 > Grigoris Dermitzakis <ph2050.DeleteThis@edu.physics.uoc.gr> wrote:
 >
   >>>Read the installation booklet that came with the CPU.
   >>>
  >>
  >>It doesn't give any help...
  >>It just say how the fan clinch with the CPU...
 >
 >
 > Strange. I guess we get better instructions here in the US, but then again
 > we usually get TOO good instructions (like warnings that sleeping pills may
 > cause drowsiness, or that razor blades should not be ingested).
 >
 > It's a thermal pad, a thin piece of aluminium coated with black gunk on both
 > sides. It's supposed to be there, as it ensures better contact between teh
 > heat sink and CPU sink. If you want better heat transfer, you can peel it
 > off, and remove the black gunk (which might take some time, especially on
 > the heat sink -- you might want to sacrifice a cotton dremel pad for
 > removing it), and then use thermal paste instead. Make sure it's thermal
 > paste and not thermal epoxy (which is a glue you'll never get off later).
 > For most thermal pastes, that would be a VERY thin layer -- thin to the
 > point of almost being translucent.
 > For even better results with the standard heat sink, use 000 steel wool or
 > similar followed by a very fine polishing pad on a flat surface. After
 > this, wash the surface to remove any invisible debris, before applying it
 > with thermal paste. If doing this (called "lapping"), be careful that you
 > keep the surface very flat, so you don't make it convex or concave.
 >
 > The thermal paste instead of thermal pad should knock your CPU temp down a
 > couple of degrees, and the lapping likewise.
 >
 > If you don't plan to overclock, though, and motherboard and/or BIOS monitors
 > show a temperature that isn't too high, just leave the sticker. It's better
 > than nothing, and works well for the designed speed. Since it's a retail
 > box CPU, you also retain the warranty by leaving it on.
 >
 > Regards,

Warranty? Mine don't have one anymore, I don't think they would
replace my CPU once they run some tests on what does work on it and find
that My 2.6c has been pushed to run 3.3 GHz allready. I think I can get
it further, but I need some other stuff first before I do.
Ram for one. It becomes unstable before the CPU Does, And then,
sometimes the Video. I'm Only running a All In Wonder 128Pro 32Mb.
As for what you had said. Yes, the thermal paste does work better.
I've used the thermal Tape, and I run cooler with the paste.
I hope you get things worked out
katt



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