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Since: Feb 09, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:52 pm
Post subject: FSB questions
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Dear all,
I am planning to buy a MSI MEGA 180 barebone which it says on the
official web site that it supports up to 333mhz FSB
However, there is an overclock function which I could potentially
increase the FBS to 200mhz (400mhz). But there is no settings for
increasing voltage.
My question is that, I am planning to buy a Athlon XP 3200+ with 1G of
DDR PC3200 RAM. They both run at 400mhz FBS. Would they run stably on
the system given that, they are both running at 400mhz? Is it
considered to be overclocking the motherboard and what effect would it
be?
Would I have a performance gain by buying these?
Thank you very much for your help
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Since: Feb 11, 2005
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:13 pm
Post subject: Re: FSB questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Kevin,
To do this you will need to buy the top "recommended" spec processor,
which will be something that runs at 333 FSB. Then yes, you will be
overclocking to 400Mhz. That is if the board will let you overclock them
that far. There is potential that you will not be able to do this and run
stably. There is no way to really know for sure until you try. As far as
increasing voltage, basically this just means that since you cannot do it,
if you get an overclock that is unstable, you cannot just increase voltage
to try and componsate. You will have to lower your overclock. If you buy a
processor that is higher cpec than what the board supports, it "should" just
clock it down to what it can handle. Same with the ram, so basically you
will just be buying stuff that is far better and not getting 100% out of it.
"Kevin Lam" <sorchu_bf.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e9df0da0.0502151452.5d5fe47b@posting.google.com...
> Dear all,
>
> I am planning to buy a MSI MEGA 180 barebone which it says on the
> official web site that it supports up to 333mhz FSB
>
> However, there is an overclock function which I could potentially
> increase the FBS to 200mhz (400mhz). But there is no settings for
> increasing voltage.
>
> My question is that, I am planning to buy a Athlon XP 3200+ with 1G of
> DDR PC3200 RAM. They both run at 400mhz FBS. Would they run stably on
> the system given that, they are both running at 400mhz? Is it
> considered to be overclocking the motherboard and what effect would it
> be?
>
> Would I have a performance gain by buying these?
>
> Thank you very much for your help
>
> Kevin<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> |
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Since: Jan 29, 2005
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:35 pm
Post subject: Re: FSB questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Kevin Lam" <sorchu_bf.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e9df0da0.0502151452.5d5fe47b@posting.google.com...
> Dear all,
>
> I am planning to buy a MSI MEGA 180 barebone which it says on the
> official web site that it supports up to 333mhz FSB
>
> However, there is an overclock function which I could potentially
> increase the FBS to 200mhz (400mhz). But there is no settings for
> increasing voltage.
>
> My question is that, I am planning to buy a Athlon XP 3200+ with 1G of
> DDR PC3200 RAM. They both run at 400mhz FBS. Would they run stably on
> the system given that, they are both running at 400mhz? Is it
> considered to be overclocking the motherboard and what effect would it
> be?
>
> Would I have a performance gain by buying these?
>
> Thank you very much for your help
>
> Kevin
just get a 333MHz processor
and ddr333 memory
i am not sure but i dont think you can do what u say
400 fsb on a processor in a 333 fsb board
by all means though try it, the worst that will happen is the processor will
only run at a max of 333 fsb
most ive had it 195 on an athlon 2600+ with a stock fsb of 166MHz (333) but
my board will support up to 200 (400)
try it out
i would stick with the 333 though be in better sync with ram if u got 333
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Since: Nov 30, 2004
Posts: 40
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:35 pm
Post subject: Re: FSB questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <e9df0da0.0502151452.5d5fe47b DeleteThis @posting.google.com>,
sorchu_bf DeleteThis @hotmail.com says...
> Dear all,
>
> I am planning to buy a MSI MEGA 180 barebone which it says on the
> official web site that it supports up to 333mhz FSB
>
> However, there is an overclock function which I could potentially
> increase the FBS to 200mhz (400mhz). But there is no settings for
> increasing voltage.
>
> My question is that, I am planning to buy a Athlon XP 3200+ with 1G of
> DDR PC3200 RAM. They both run at 400mhz FBS. Would they run stably on
> the system given that, they are both running at 400mhz? Is it
> considered to be overclocking the motherboard and what effect would it
> be?
>
> Would I have a performance gain by buying these?
>
> Thank you very much for your help
>
> Kevin
>
No. That board runs at 333, not 400. You use the board to overclock the
cpu, not the other way around.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: FSB questions |
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Since: Feb 16, 2005
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:26 am
Post subject: Re: FSB questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi all,
I think there is a misunderstanding about my description, let me
clarify of what I said.
I am saying that, my motherboard needed to be overclocked to be run at
400mhz fsb, because officially, it only supports up to 333mhz, but not
400mhz fsb, however, there is an option to push it to 400mhz although
it's not official for some reason.
Secondly, I am buying the CPU and RAM which runs at 400mhz by default,
yep, they are faster then what the motherboard *Officially* supports,
my question is that, would the CPU and RAM runs at it's full potential
if I overclock the motherboard... Also, is there any side effect of
that?
Thx
Kevin
theyak wrote:
> In article <e9df0da0.0502151452.5d5fe47b.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>,
> sorchu_bf.DeleteThis@hotmail.com says...
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I am planning to buy a MSI MEGA 180 barebone which it says on the
> > official web site that it supports up to 333mhz FSB
> >
> > However, there is an overclock function which I could potentially
> > increase the FBS to 200mhz (400mhz). But there is no settings for
> > increasing voltage.
> >
> > My question is that, I am planning to buy a Athlon XP 3200+ with 1G
of
> > DDR PC3200 RAM. They both run at 400mhz FBS. Would they run stably
on
> > the system given that, they are both running at 400mhz? Is it
> > considered to be overclocking the motherboard and what effect would
it
> > be?
> >
> > Would I have a performance gain by buying these?
> >
> > Thank you very much for your help
> >
> > Kevin
> >
>
>
>
> No. That board runs at 333, not 400. You use the board to overclock
the
> cpu, not the other way around.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: FSB questions |
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Since: Nov 30, 2004
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:35 pm
Post subject: Re: FSB questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <1108563966.684485.239670 DeleteThis @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
sorchu_bf DeleteThis @hotmail.com says...
> Hi all,
>
> I think there is a misunderstanding about my description, let me
> clarify of what I said.
>
> I am saying that, my motherboard needed to be overclocked to be run at
> 400mhz fsb, because officially, it only supports up to 333mhz, but not
> 400mhz fsb, however, there is an option to push it to 400mhz although
> it's not official for some reason.
>
> Secondly, I am buying the CPU and RAM which runs at 400mhz by default,
> yep, they are faster then what the motherboard *Officially* supports,
> my question is that, would the CPU and RAM runs at it's full potential
> if I overclock the motherboard... Also, is there any side effect of
> that?
>
> Thx
>
> Kevin
>
>
Why would you take the risk of it not working? Why not just get a board
that does support 400 fsb? It's not as if they are difficult to find.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: FSB questions |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:25 am
Post subject: Re: FSB questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Not, because I like the case, I know I deserve the pain if I insist I
want that case, however, if anyone can help to clarify this, it will
still be very much appreciated.
Thx
Kevin
theyak wrote:
> In article <1108563966.684485.239670 RemoveThis @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> sorchu_bf RemoveThis @hotmail.com says...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I think there is a misunderstanding about my description, let me
> > clarify of what I said.
> >
> > I am saying that, my motherboard needed to be overclocked to be run
at
> > 400mhz fsb, because officially, it only supports up to 333mhz, but
not
> > 400mhz fsb, however, there is an option to push it to 400mhz
although
> > it's not official for some reason.
> >
> > Secondly, I am buying the CPU and RAM which runs at 400mhz by
default,
> > yep, they are faster then what the motherboard *Officially*
supports,
> > my question is that, would the CPU and RAM runs at it's full
potential
> > if I overclock the motherboard... Also, is there any side effect of
> > that?
> >
> > Thx
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
>
> Why would you take the risk of it not working? Why not just get a
board
> that does support 400 fsb? It's not as if they are difficult to find.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: FSB questions |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:28 am
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Yes the CPU and ram will run at FULL potential. IF you can get it to
overclock that high. Just because the option is there, doesn't GUARANTEE
that it will overclock to that. Also since you don't have the option of
increasing voltage, that adds an even greater chance for failure, since one
of the things you can do to help correct an unstable overclock can be to up
voltage.
<sorchu_bf RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1108563966.684485.239670@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I think there is a misunderstanding about my description, let me
> clarify of what I said.
>
> I am saying that, my motherboard needed to be overclocked to be run at
> 400mhz fsb, because officially, it only supports up to 333mhz, but not
> 400mhz fsb, however, there is an option to push it to 400mhz although
> it's not official for some reason.
>
> Secondly, I am buying the CPU and RAM which runs at 400mhz by default,
> yep, they are faster then what the motherboard *Officially* supports,
> my question is that, would the CPU and RAM runs at it's full potential
> if I overclock the motherboard... Also, is there any side effect of
> that?
>
> Thx
>
> Kevin
>
>
> theyak wrote:
>> In article <e9df0da0.0502151452.5d5fe47b RemoveThis @posting.google.com>,
>> sorchu_bf RemoveThis @hotmail.com says...
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I am planning to buy a MSI MEGA 180 barebone which it says on the
>> > official web site that it supports up to 333mhz FSB
>> >
>> > However, there is an overclock function which I could potentially
>> > increase the FBS to 200mhz (400mhz). But there is no settings for
>> > increasing voltage.
>> >
>> > My question is that, I am planning to buy a Athlon XP 3200+ with 1G
> of
>> > DDR PC3200 RAM. They both run at 400mhz FBS. Would they run stably
> on
>> > the system given that, they are both running at 400mhz? Is it
>> > considered to be overclocking the motherboard and what effect would
> it
>> > be?
>> >
>> > Would I have a performance gain by buying these?
>> >
>> > Thank you very much for your help
>> >
>> > Kevin
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> No. That board runs at 333, not 400. You use the board to overclock
> the
>> cpu, not the other way around.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:18 pm
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I think you haven't seen it yet...
Have a search on google and you know what MSI MEGA 180 is about...
Kevin
theyak wrote:
> In article <1108653951.457033.132310 RemoveThis @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> sorchu_bf RemoveThis @hotmail.com says...
> >
> > Not, because I like the case, I know I deserve the pain if I insist
I
> > want that case, however, if anyone can help to clarify this, it
will
> > still be very much appreciated.
> >
> > Thx
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
>
>
> What does the case have to with anything?
> Buy the case and stick another mb in there.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: FSB questions |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:35 pm
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In article <1108653951.457033.132310 DeleteThis @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
sorchu_bf DeleteThis @hotmail.com says...
>
> Not, because I like the case, I know I deserve the pain if I insist I
> want that case, however, if anyone can help to clarify this, it will
> still be very much appreciated.
>
> Thx
>
> Kevin
>
>
What does the case have to with anything?
Buy the case and stick another mb in there.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: FSB questions |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:35 pm
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On 17 Feb 2005 12:18:44 -0800, sorchu_bf DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
>I think you haven't seen it yet...
>Have a search on google and you know what MSI MEGA 180 is about...
Why?
Shouldn't you be providing the specs of the system you're
asking about? If you had you might've gotten a better
answer. Don't make others go out and hunt down the info you
already know. For example, the motherboard make, model,
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