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CWatters

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:00 pm
Post subject: Formatting a drive for Win98
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Relative has a Win98 PC with a small drive. They don't need a bigger drive
but the one they have is failing.

I've got an 80G drive going spare that's unformatted and could format it on
my WinXP box with Fat32 but what about the size?

I'm sure the Bios and OS limit is going to be a problem. Is it possible to
format it as 6 or 8G drive or would that not work?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:06 am
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CWatters <colin.watters.TakeThisOut@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote:

> Relative has a Win98 PC with a small drive. They don't
> need a bigger drive but the one they have is failing.

> I've got an 80G drive going spare that's unformatted and could
> format it on my WinXP box with Fat32 but what about the size?

> I'm sure the Bios and OS limit is going to be a problem.

Why are you sure about that with the bios ?
Very unlikely indeed to be an OS problem.

> Is it possible to format it as 6 or 8G drive or would that not work?

Yes, but there arent all that many desktop systems which had
a problem at that level, quite a few more had a problem at 32G.
The 32G problem is obvious, the system wont boot if its got that
problem, it will hang at boot time. Easy to set the 32G jumper
thats on the absolute vast bulk of 80G drives to fix that.

If you do have a problem at 6 or 8G, the easiest way to get around
that is to short stroke the drive using Hitachi's Feature Tool. That
tells the drive to claim that its an 8G drive at boot time.

Its important to apply both fixes if they are needed before
partitioning and formatting the drive and safest to wipe the
drive with something like clearhdd first too.
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/clearhdd.htm

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:31 pm
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, but there arent all that many desktop systems which had
> a problem at that level, quite a few more had a problem at 32G.
> The 32G problem is obvious, the system wont boot if its got that
> problem, it will hang at boot time. Easy to set the 32G jumper
> thats on the absolute vast bulk of 80G drives to fix that.

Thanks. I'll give that a go first.

> If you do have a problem at 6 or 8G, the easiest way to get around
> that is to short stroke the drive using Hitachi's Feature Tool. That
> tells the drive to claim that its an 8G drive at boot time.
>
> Its important to apply both fixes if they are needed before
> partitioning and formatting the drive and safest to wipe the
> drive with something like clearhdd first too.
> http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/clearhdd.htm
>
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:06 pm
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"CWatters" <colin.watters.DeleteThis@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote in message
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> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4rekl2Fqsi8kU1@mid.individual.net...
> > Yes, but there arent all that many desktop systems which had
> > a problem at that level, quite a few more had a problem at 32G.
> > The 32G problem is obvious, the system wont boot if its got that
> > problem, it will hang at boot time. Easy to set the 32G jumper
> > thats on the absolute vast bulk of 80G drives to fix that.
>
> Thanks. I'll give that a go first.

Humm. You familiar with Samsung drives? The drive arrived with just one
jumper installed on a-b which according to this page...

http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/support/Download/usergui...usersgu

....means "Master in lower 32GB (capacity < 32 GB)"

That's slightly confusing - presumably that's Japanese speak for "just an
ordinary Master and no capacity limit"?

So if I want to limit the capacity to 32G it looks like I need to change it
to "Master with limit capacity in upper 32GB
(capacity = 32 GB)"
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:08 am
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CWatters <colin.watters.DeleteThis@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote
> CWatters <colin.watters.DeleteThis@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Yes, but there arent all that many desktop systems which had
>>> a problem at that level, quite a few more had a problem at 32G.
>>> The 32G problem is obvious, the system wont boot if its got that
>>> problem, it will hang at boot time. Easy to set the 32G jumper
>>> thats on the absolute vast bulk of 80G drives to fix that.

>> Thanks. I'll give that a go first.

> Humm. You familiar with Samsung drives?

Yes.

> The drive arrived with just one jumper installed on a-b which according to this page...

> http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/support/Download/usergui...usersgu

> ...means "Master in lower 32GB (capacity < 32 GB)"

> That's slightly confusing - presumably that's Japanese speak

Korean, actually.

> for "just an ordinary Master and no capacity limit"?

Yes.

> So if I want to limit the capacity to 32G it looks
> like I need to change it to "Master with limit
> capacity in upper 32GB (capacity = 32 GB)"

Yes.

And I agree, one of the most clumsy descriptions I have seen in a long time.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:44 pm
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> CWatters <colin.watters RemoveThis @turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote
> > So if I want to limit the capacity to 32G it looks
> > like I need to change it to "Master with limit
> > capacity in upper 32GB (capacity = 32 GB)"
>
> Yes.
>
> And I agree, one of the most clumsy descriptions I have seen in a long
time.
>

Thanks.
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