Found the oldest working PC?

"leslie" <LESLIE.RemoveThis@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM> wrote in message
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 > My AT&T 6300 has an 8086-2 process with 640 Kb of RAM and two 5 1/4"
floppy
 > drives, and still worked the last time I powered it up.
 >
 > There's a Honeywell GE/PAC 4010 at a Long Beach refinery that was
installed
 > in 1975 and was still running as of April, 2002.

Maybe you oughta mention that Honeywell to the Register?

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"Yousuf Khan" <ABCbjsk90DEF RemoveThis @GHIhotmailJKL.com> wrote in message
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  > > There's a Honeywell GE/PAC 4010 at a Long Beach refinery that was
 > installed
  > > in 1975 and was still running as of April, 2002.
 >
 > Maybe you oughta mention that Honeywell to the Register?
 >
Maybe not, its not a PC.

There are thousands of 20+ year old running PCs, they must be pretty bored
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 05:27:35 GMT, LESLIE.TakeThisOut@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM
(leslie) wrote:
 >Yousuf Khan (ABCbbbl67DEF@GHIyahooJKL.MNOcomPQR) wrote:
 >: Apparently a Dutch company is still running an old 8088 IBM PC-XT computer
 >: from 1983. HP & Intel cosponsored the contest. And so the company won 4
 >: brand new P4 computers -- but they're still not going to give up the old XT.
 >:
 >: The contest was put on because so many companies have refused to upgrade
 >: computers after the recession.
 >:
 >: Yousuf Khan
 >:
<font color=purple> >: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/67/34933.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/67/34933.html</font</a>>
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 >:
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 >My AT&T 6300 has an 8086-2 process with 640 Kb of RAM and two 5 1/4" floppy
 >drives, and still worked the last time I powered it up.
 >
 >There's a Honeywell GE/PAC 4010 at a Long Beach refinery that was installed
 >in 1975 and was still running as of April, 2002.

Given that Intel was one of the sponsor of the contests, I suspect
that by "PC" they mean an x86 powered IBM PC-style system. You're old
AT&T might count if it were in active use, though would that predate
1983?

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Eric Gisin <ericgisin DeleteThis @graffiti.net> wrote:
<snip> ...nothing interesting.

Oh gee, lucky us. It's Eric the troll boy back again. FOAD.

J.
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....
 > Apparently a Dutch company is still running an old 8088 IBM PC-XT computer
 > from 1983. HP & Intel cosponsored the contest. And so the company won 4
 > brand new P4 computers -- but they're still not going to give up the old
XT.
 >
 > The contest was put on because so many companies have refused to upgrade
 > computers after the recession.
 >
My cousin has a real estate type business where he does apartment
maintenance and rentals. In 1981 I put together an XT set with a cga
monitor, 5 gig mfm hard drive, two 5.25 low density disk drives, a combo
clock, lpt, comm port card and 640 k of memory. This was one of the fastest
machines in the day because it can be ran a 8 MHz. Along with this is a 9
pin Epson printer. No mouse, no modem.

We made a simple spreadsheet program in Lotus and a few form letters in
First Choice. The only upgrade that has been done is to go from DOS 2.0 to
DOS 3.0.

This thing has been running for all these years, the hard drive sometimes
sounds like a model T he just taps it and it comes back to life. Its hard to
believe that the hard drive would last this long but he keeps his office
clean as a hospital and air conditioned. I think the monitor has been
repaired 4 or 5 times or he has replaced it. I don't even know where you
could find a cga monitor.

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G Smith <nobody RemoveThis @nowhere.cum> wrote:
: ...
:: Apparently a Dutch company is still running an old 8088 IBM PC-XT
:: computer from 1983. HP & Intel cosponsored the contest. And so the
:: company won 4 brand new P4 computers -- but they're still not going
:: to give up the old XT.
::
:: The contest was put on because so many companies have refused to
:: upgrade computers after the recession.
::
: My cousin has a real estate type business where he does apartment
: maintenance and rentals. In 1981 I put together an XT set with a cga
: monitor, 5 gig mfm hard drive, two 5.25 low density disk drives, a
^^^^^^^^
I assume you meant a 5MB drive and NOT 5GB! Tooooo funny.

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J.
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The IBM PC-XT was also known as the model 5160.

The original IBM PC was even older, and was also know as the
model 5150. I have one of those.

I wish I knew about this contest. I could have easily beat out that
Dutch company!! I would have even re-installed the single sided
160K disk drive, and reduced the memory back to the original 48K,
if it would have made HP & Intel happier.

Now, were is my DOS 1.0 disk ??????

Yousuf Khan wrote:
 >
 > Apparently a Dutch company is still running an old 8088 IBM PC-XT computer
 > from 1983. HP & Intel cosponsored the contest. And so the company won 4
 > brand new P4 computers -- but they're still not going to give up the old XT.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Interesting follow-up reading...

http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2002-October/004229.html
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In article <400C290B.FF79447.RemoveThis@Early.com>, NoSpamForWalt.RemoveThis@Early.com
says...
 > Interesting follow-up reading...
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2002-October/004229.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2002-October/004229.html</font</a>>
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Yikes, don't let Sheryl read this! She'll have my 5150 (with cassette
port) on EBay before I get home tonight! ...wonder if the EU is worth
anything? Unfortunately, all my documentation went out with the move,
ten years go.

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Keith<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Keith R. Williams wrote:
 > In article <400C290B.FF79447.RemoveThis@Early.com>, NoSpamForWalt.RemoveThis@Early.com
 > says...
 >
  >>Interesting follow-up reading...
  >>
  >>http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2002-October/004229.html
  >>
 >
 > Yikes, don't let Sheryl read this! She'll have my 5150 (with cassette
 > port) on EBay before I get home tonight! ...wonder if the EU is worth
 > anything? Unfortunately, all my documentation went out with the move,
 > ten years go.
 >

I've got one of the very early ones here (64K MB with cassette port).

I'll have to look at whether it has an 8087, and what sort.

I never realized it could be worth something.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:31:44 -0500, Keith R. Williams
<krw.DeleteThis@attglobal.net> wrote:
 >In article <400C290B.FF79447.DeleteThis@Early.com>, NoSpamForWalt.DeleteThis@Early.com
 >says...
  >> Interesting follow-up reading...
  >>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2002-October/004229.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2002-October/004229.html</font</a>>
  >>
 >Yikes, don't let Sheryl read this! She'll have my 5150 (with cassette
 >port) on EBay before I get home tonight! ...wonder if the EU is worth
 >anything? Unfortunately, all my documentation went out with the move,
 >ten years go.

Keith, has anyone ever told you that you need to throw out your old
junk more often? One of these days we're going to hear about you on
the news:

"Man killed after being under a giant stack of IBM Model M keyboards.
Details at 11!" :>

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"Walt" <NoSpamForWalt DeleteThis @Early.com> wrote in message
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 > I wish I knew about this contest. I could have easily beat out that
 > Dutch company!! I would have even re-installed the single sided
 > 160K disk drive, and reduced the memory back to the original 48K,
 > if it would have made HP & Intel happier.
 >
 > Now, were is my DOS 1.0 disk ??????

Does it still work?

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G Smith, in all wisdom, typed:
 > My cousin has a real estate type business where he does apartment
 > maintenance and rentals. In 1981 I put together an XT set with a cga
 > monitor, 5 gig mfm hard drive, two 5.25 low density disk drives, a
 > combo clock, lpt, comm port card and 640 k of memory. This was one of
 > the fastest machines in the day because it can be ran a 8 MHz.
 > Along with this is a 9 pin Epson printer. No mouse, no modem.
<snip>
 > I gave him a 486 a few years back and he refused to use it

I wonder about people like that.

The earliest human presence in North America occured like 15,000 years ago.
Recently, archeologists found a 30,000 year old settlement in Siberia. They
feel these sites may be related because of the remarkable similarity of the
tools these early humans used.

That means for 15,000 years there was little progress in the tools these
people used.

I wonder how long you can keep an IBM PC going?


Lance
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