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Since: Jun 16, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:55 am
Post subject: GA-K8NS Ultra-939
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Hi
GA-K8NS Ultra-939
Everytime I do anything heavy - video rendering / games, I get
continuous short beeps and eventually the pc shuts down - is this
Power error as it says in the manual? Do i need a new power supply -
i'm sure this wasn't a problem before!
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:55 am
Post subject: Re: GA-K8NS Ultra-939 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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London Chap wrote:
> Hi
>
> GA-K8NS Ultra-939
> Everytime I do anything heavy - video rendering / games, I get
> continuous short beeps and eventually the pc shuts down - is this
> Power error as it says in the manual? Do i need a new power supply -
> i'm sure this wasn't a problem before!
>
> john
>
The power is delivered in stages.
The PSU converts A.C. from the wall, to +12V DC. That is what
the 2x2 connector carries to the motherboard.
The motherboard has a Vcore regulator circuit. It has its own
switching regulator circuit. It converts 12VDC to a voltage in
the neighbourhood of 1.2-1.5V or so.
When you hear the beeps, it could be that the 1.2-1.5V value
has dropped too low. One reason for this to happen, is bad
capacitors (electrolytic caps around the CPU socket are
leaking or bulging). Sample picture here:
http://www.badcaps.net/images/caps/kt7/image004.png
If you have an application that can display the
monitored voltages on the system, watch the Vcore
measured value, as you do stuff on the computer.
I use MBM5 on my motherboard for this, but I don't see
your motherboard in the support list. So you may have
to use whatever Gigabyte has to offer.
Many motherboards have a hardware monitor page in the BIOS,
but the disadvantage of looking at measured voltage values
there, is you don't have an opportunity to see the value when
the system is idle, versus when it is at 100% load. That is
why you want a utility that runs in your OS. But if you
don't have a program to display voltage and temp, that will
at least give you some idea what values exist.
Paul |
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Since: Jun 16, 2007
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:36 am
Post subject: Re: GA-K8NS Ultra-939 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jun 16, 8:31 am, Paul <nos... RemoveThis @needed.com> wrote:
> London Chap wrote:
> > Hi
>
> > GA-K8NS Ultra-939
> > Everytime I do anything heavy - video rendering / games, I get
> > continuous short beeps and eventually the pc shuts down - is this
> > Power error as it says in the manual? Do i need a new power supply -
> > i'm sure this wasn't a problem before!
>
> > john
>
> The power is delivered in stages.
>
> The PSU converts A.C. from the wall, to +12V DC. That is what
> the 2x2 connector carries to the motherboard.
>
> The motherboard has a Vcore regulator circuit. It has its own
> switching regulator circuit. It converts 12VDC to a voltage in
> the neighbourhood of 1.2-1.5V or so.
>
> When you hear the beeps, it could be that the 1.2-1.5V value
> has dropped too low. One reason for this to happen, is bad
> capacitors (electrolytic caps around the CPU socket are
> leaking or bulging). Sample picture here:
>
> http://www.badcaps.net/images/caps/kt7/image004.png
>
> If you have an application that can display the
> monitored voltages on the system, watch the Vcore
> measured value, as you do stuff on the computer.
> I use MBM5 on my motherboard for this, but I don't see
> your motherboard in the support list. So you may have
> to use whatever Gigabyte has to offer.
>
> Many motherboards have a hardware monitor page in the BIOS,
> but the disadvantage of looking at measured voltage values
> there, is you don't have an opportunity to see the value when
> the system is idle, versus when it is at 100% load. That is
> why you want a utility that runs in your OS. But if you
> don't have a program to display voltage and temp, that will
> at least give you some idea what values exist.
>
> Paul
thats great thanks!
don't have an app but will see what i can find.
sounds like there isn't very much i can do about it! >> Stay informed about: GA-K8NS Ultra-939 |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:05 pm
Post subject: Re: GA-K8NS Ultra-939 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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London Chap wrote:
> On Jun 16, 8:31 am, Paul <nos....RemoveThis@needed.com> wrote:
>> London Chap wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> GA-K8NS Ultra-939
>>> Everytime I do anything heavy - video rendering / games, I get
>>> continuous short beeps and eventually the pc shuts down - is this
>>> Power error as it says in the manual? Do i need a new power supply -
>>> i'm sure this wasn't a problem before!
>>> john
>> The power is delivered in stages.
>>
>> The PSU converts A.C. from the wall, to +12V DC. That is what
>> the 2x2 connector carries to the motherboard.
>>
>> The motherboard has a Vcore regulator circuit. It has its own
>> switching regulator circuit. It converts 12VDC to a voltage in
>> the neighbourhood of 1.2-1.5V or so.
>>
>> When you hear the beeps, it could be that the 1.2-1.5V value
>> has dropped too low. One reason for this to happen, is bad
>> capacitors (electrolytic caps around the CPU socket are
>> leaking or bulging). Sample picture here:
>>
>> http://www.badcaps.net/images/caps/kt7/image004.png
>>
>> If you have an application that can display the
>> monitored voltages on the system, watch the Vcore
>> measured value, as you do stuff on the computer.
>> I use MBM5 on my motherboard for this, but I don't see
>> your motherboard in the support list. So you may have
>> to use whatever Gigabyte has to offer.
>>
>> Many motherboards have a hardware monitor page in the BIOS,
>> but the disadvantage of looking at measured voltage values
>> there, is you don't have an opportunity to see the value when
>> the system is idle, versus when it is at 100% load. That is
>> why you want a utility that runs in your OS. But if you
>> don't have a program to display voltage and temp, that will
>> at least give you some idea what values exist.
>>
>> Paul
>
> thats great thanks!
> don't have an app but will see what i can find.
> sounds like there isn't very much i can do about it!
>
Hmmm....it sounds like a CPU overheating problem to me...
Check your CPU heatsink is clean and free from dust and check to be sure
that the fan on the heatsink is turning. A can of spray-air is best to
clear the heatsink and fan from dust.
Jason >> Stay informed about: GA-K8NS Ultra-939 |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:38 am
Post subject: Re: GA-K8NS Ultra-939 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I have had this board for about a year and a half. I had a great deal of
trouble myself with CPU overheating. Not so much with the newer games but
with the older games. My grandson's Monopoly game could bring the CPU to
over 60 degrees centigrade. But newer games ran fine - under 40 degrees. I
upgraded the CPU fan & heatsink and bought a "more modern" video card. The
original was an old TNT-32. It runs OK now (it's at 29 degrees this
moment). When it was overheating, the symptoms were more like "clicks" than
"beeps".
"Jason" <jase71.DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dwWci.62131$hj5.59221@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> London Chap wrote:
>> On Jun 16, 8:31 am, Paul <nos....DeleteThis@needed.com> wrote:
>>> London Chap wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> GA-K8NS Ultra-939
>>>> Everytime I do anything heavy - video rendering / games, I get
>>>> continuous short beeps and eventually the pc shuts down - is this
>>>> Power error as it says in the manual? Do i need a new power supply -
>>>> i'm sure this wasn't a problem before!
>>>> john
>>> The power is delivered in stages.
>>>
>>> The PSU converts A.C. from the wall, to +12V DC. That is what
>>> the 2x2 connector carries to the motherboard.
>>>
>>> The motherboard has a Vcore regulator circuit. It has its own
>>> switching regulator circuit. It converts 12VDC to a voltage in
>>> the neighbourhood of 1.2-1.5V or so.
>>>
>>> When you hear the beeps, it could be that the 1.2-1.5V value
>>> has dropped too low. One reason for this to happen, is bad
>>> capacitors (electrolytic caps around the CPU socket are
>>> leaking or bulging). Sample picture here:
>>>
>>> http://www.badcaps.net/images/caps/kt7/image004.png
>>>
>>> If you have an application that can display the
>>> monitored voltages on the system, watch the Vcore
>>> measured value, as you do stuff on the computer.
>>> I use MBM5 on my motherboard for this, but I don't see
>>> your motherboard in the support list. So you may have
>>> to use whatever Gigabyte has to offer.
>>>
>>> Many motherboards have a hardware monitor page in the BIOS,
>>> but the disadvantage of looking at measured voltage values
>>> there, is you don't have an opportunity to see the value when
>>> the system is idle, versus when it is at 100% load. That is
>>> why you want a utility that runs in your OS. But if you
>>> don't have a program to display voltage and temp, that will
>>> at least give you some idea what values exist.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> thats great thanks!
>> don't have an app but will see what i can find.
>> sounds like there isn't very much i can do about it!
>>
>
> Hmmm....it sounds like a CPU overheating problem to me...
> Check your CPU heatsink is clean and free from dust and check to be sure
> that the fan on the heatsink is turning. A can of spray-air is best to
> clear the heatsink and fan from dust.
>
> Jason
> >> Stay informed about: GA-K8NS Ultra-939 |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:36 am
Post subject: Re: GA-K8NS Ultra-939 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jun 17, 4:38 am, "John McDonnell" <jmcdo... DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote:
> I have had this board for about a year and a half. I had a great deal of
> trouble myself with CPU overheating. Not so much with the newer games but
> with the older games. My grandson's Monopoly game could bring the CPU to
> over 60 degrees centigrade. But newer games ran fine - under 40 degrees. I
> upgraded the CPU fan & heatsink and bought a "more modern" video card. The
> original was an old TNT-32. It runs OK now (it's at 29 degrees this
> moment). When it was overheating, the symptoms were more like "clicks" than
> "beeps".
>
> "Jason" <jas... DeleteThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:dwWci.62131$hj5.59221@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> > London Chap wrote:
> >> On Jun 16, 8:31 am, Paul <nos... DeleteThis @needed.com> wrote:
> >>> London Chap wrote:
> >>>> Hi
> >>>> GA-K8NS Ultra-939
> >>>> Everytime I do anything heavy - video rendering / games, I get
> >>>> continuous short beeps and eventually the pc shuts down - is this
> >>>> Power error as it says in the manual? Do i need a new power supply -
> >>>> i'm sure this wasn't a problem before!
> >>>> john
> >>> The power is delivered in stages.
>
> >>> The PSU converts A.C. from the wall, to +12V DC. That is what
> >>> the 2x2 connector carries to the motherboard.
>
> >>> The motherboard has a Vcore regulator circuit. It has its own
> >>> switching regulator circuit. It converts 12VDC to a voltage in
> >>> the neighbourhood of 1.2-1.5V or so.
>
> >>> When you hear the beeps, it could be that the 1.2-1.5V value
> >>> has dropped too low. One reason for this to happen, is bad
> >>> capacitors (electrolytic caps around the CPU socket are
> >>> leaking or bulging). Sample picture here:
>
> >>>http://www.badcaps.net/images/caps/kt7/image004.png
>
> >>> If you have an application that can display the
> >>> monitored voltages on the system, watch the Vcore
> >>> measured value, as you do stuff on the computer.
> >>> I use MBM5 on my motherboard for this, but I don't see
> >>> your motherboard in the support list. So you may have
> >>> to use whatever Gigabyte has to offer.
>
> >>> Many motherboards have a hardware monitor page in the BIOS,
> >>> but the disadvantage of looking at measured voltage values
> >>> there, is you don't have an opportunity to see the value when
> >>> the system is idle, versus when it is at 100% load. That is
> >>> why you want a utility that runs in your OS. But if you
> >>> don't have a program to display voltage and temp, that will
> >>> at least give you some idea what values exist.
>
> >>> Paul
>
> >> thats great thanks!
> >> don't have an app but will see what i can find.
> >> sounds like there isn't very much i can do about it!
>
> > Hmmm....it sounds like a CPU overheating problem to me...
> > Check your CPU heatsink is clean and free from dust and check to be sure
> > that the fan on the heatsink is turning. A can of spray-air is best to
> > clear the heatsink and fan from dust.
>
> > Jason
yeah i get a clicking too. The fan is def running but i haven't
cleaned it all out yet. Its also extremely noisy not sure if that is
related? >> Stay informed about: GA-K8NS Ultra-939 |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:46 am
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London Chap wrote:
>
> yeah i get a clicking too. The fan is def running but i haven't
> cleaned it all out yet. Its also extremely noisy not sure if that is
> related?
>
Extremely noisy, means it is running at elevated RPMs. Intel fans
in the past, have been temperature sensitive, and if the computer
case air temperature is high, the Intel fan speeds up to compensate.
I would be checking both the computer case air temperature, and the
CPU temperature, to help see where the problem is. For example, on
my computer right now.
Idle 10 minutes Prime95
Room Temp - 21C 21C
Computer case - 25C 25C
CPU temperature - 27C 38C
(Room temp is measured by a thermistor mounted on the front grill
of my computer.)
My "case delta" is 4C under load. My "CPU delta" is 13C under load.
If I were to try to improve the cooling, it would be for a
better CPU cooler.
If your case delta is high, that implies the exhaust fan isn't
doing the job on the back of the case. For an exhaust fan to
work, there has to be vents on the front of the computer, to
let air in. I removed the plastic fascia on the front of the
computer, to make more vent space available.
Paul >> Stay informed about: GA-K8NS Ultra-939 |
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