GForce 4 Ti 4600 128MB or GForce FX 5600 XT-TD 128

"DD" <ddgamer.RemoveThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message news:<RXv8c.8764$n37.1070172@read2.cgocable.net>...
 > The FX will give you DirectX 9 and thus give you the full visual effect of
 > any newer games you play.
 >
 > DD
 >
 >
 > "InQuisition®" <nospam.RemoveThis@hoofmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:o9e4605ccmhn0ngup0okl6ka3gr9mpvti6@4ax.com...
  > > Hi
  > > Which would perform better on a MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
  > > AMD XP2800 1GB of ram.
  > >
  > > Also which driver set would be the best for each?
  > > TIA
  > >

To bad that The FX5600 is so piss poor slow. And worse, the
Pixelshaders in the FX series are weak!

Sure later FX cards have better shaders, but the FX5200, FX5600 and
the FX5800...to slow to suck the combustion engine of my motorbike!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: GForce 4 Ti 4600 128MB or GForce FX 5600 XT-TD 128 

"DD" <ddgamer.RemoveThis@cogeco.ca> wrote:
 > The FX will give you DirectX 9 and thus give you the full visual effect of
 > any newer games you play.
 >
 > DD

Forget that horrible 5600 XT model. It's not even the worth of
GeForce 3 Titanium 200. What a sad release from Nvidia. I'd pay two
bucks for it if I'd have "Tetris".

 > "InQuisition®" <nospam.RemoveThis@hoofmail.com> wrote:
  > > Hi
  > > Which would perform better on a MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
  > > AMD XP2800 1GB of ram.
  > >
  > > Also which driver set would be the best for each?
  > > TIA
  > ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"DD" <ddgamer RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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" The FX will give you DirectX 9 and thus give you the full visual effect of
any newer games you play. "


.....but the Ti4600 pisses all over the 5600XT in every other conceivable
area.
 >> Stay informed about: GForce 4 Ti 4600 128MB or GForce FX 5600 XT-TD 128 

....and 5600XT wont run any DX9-game good enough, even 5600Ultra has serious
problems with games like Farcry or Painkiller.
 >> Stay informed about: GForce 4 Ti 4600 128MB or GForce FX 5600 XT-TD 128 

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:44:13 -0500, InQuisition® <nospam.DeleteThis@hoofmail.com>
wrote:

 >Hi
 >Which would perform better on a MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
 >AMD XP2800 1GB of ram.
 >
 >Also which driver set would be the best for each?
 >TIA

Depends which you value in your games - presumably you want it for
games or you could buy an older card for next to nothing and be done
with your dilema...

FX5600-XT - will give you a nice looking image in games but the
performance is less then you would appreciate. Infact unless you have
ever had the chance to compare them,, you may never know just how poor
they are. You might be forgiven for thinking that the FX5600-XT looks
good,, but,, if you can see them side-by-side you will see just how
piss-poor the 5600 is, not only compared to any GF4 "Ti" series card
but in general performance, to many lesser or even older cards... You
may be surprised to see a GF3 Ti500 beating the crap out of an
FX5600-XT as well... Its single advantage is that it "may" be able to
take advantage of DX9. I say "may", as even some of the lesser FX
series of cards can't take full advantage of DX9. I was very open eyed
when I saw this on a benchmark site - I wont name it as it is not
required and besides - I can't remember it...

Ti4600 - in straight out grunt and speed performance, it will
absolutely slaughter the FX5600-XT,, hands down... This I can say from
experience, not that I had a Ti4600, but I had a Ti4200 then I had an
FX5600-XT and I nearly cried when I saw the difference... I took mine
back and got an FX5700 (completely different from FX5200-5600's) and I
can settle for this as it does perform better than th Ti4200 but I
would rate its speed comparable to a Ti4600 from what I have observed
from friends 4600's. They are still a force to be reckoned with. They
can't take advantage of the extras in DX9 but that means NOT that they
wont work with DX9. Quite the opposite... DX9 will still benefit a
Ti4600 as it did with my Ti4200. Small diffeeence showed up with
certain games, including a slight speed difference (for the better),,
some nicer looking graphics in most of my existing games,, so all of a
sudden,, DX9 becomes an almost dead issue if you are worried about it
and the Ti4600...

My recommendation...
First,, in my country, there are very few Ti4600's still for sale and
those which are, still have a reasonably high pricetag. They are good
cards but for the price they fetch, it may be a good move to think of
going to an FX5700 and upwards card for about the same price.

Second,, if you can get it real cheap and,, presumably you would be
under budget constraints or you wouldn't have bothered asking about
lower end cards like 5600's,, then go for it.. You wont be
disappointed,, well at least until games progress that far that even
FX card owners have to move up or over...

In short => Ti4600 - first choice. Absolutely..!!!!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: GForce 4 Ti 4600 128MB or GForce FX 5600 XT-TD 128 

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:34:53 +1200, Bruce Tyler
<top.DeleteThis@bottom.au> wrote:

 >On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:44:13 -0500, InQuisition® <nospam.DeleteThis@hoofmail.com>
 >wrote:
 >
  >>Hi
  >>Which would perform better on a MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
  >>AMD XP2800 1GB of ram.
  >>
  >>Also which driver set would be the best for each?
  >>TIA
 >
 >Depends which you value in your games - presumably you want it for
 >games or you could buy an older card for next to nothing and be done
 >with your dilema...
 >
 >FX5600-XT - will give you a nice looking image in games but the
 >performance is less then you would appreciate. Infact unless you have
 >ever had the chance to compare them,, you may never know just how poor
 >they are. You might be forgiven for thinking that the FX5600-XT looks
 >good,, but,, if you can see them side-by-side you will see just how
 >piss-poor the 5600 is, not only compared to any GF4 "Ti" series card
 >but in general performance, to many lesser or even older cards... You
 >may be surprised to see a GF3 Ti500 beating the crap out of an
 >FX5600-XT as well... Its single advantage is that it "may" be able to
 >take advantage of DX9. I say "may", as even some of the lesser FX
 >series of cards can't take full advantage of DX9. I was very open eyed
 >when I saw this on a benchmark site - I wont name it as it is not
 >required and besides - I can't remember it...
 >
 >Ti4600 - in straight out grunt and speed performance, it will
 >absolutely slaughter the FX5600-XT,, hands down... This I can say from
 >experience, not that I had a Ti4600, but I had a Ti4200 then I had an
 >FX5600-XT and I nearly cried when I saw the difference... I took mine
 >back and got an FX5700 (completely different from FX5200-5600's) and I
 >can settle for this as it does perform better than th Ti4200 but I
 >would rate its speed comparable to a Ti4600 from what I have observed
 >from friends 4600's. They are still a force to be reckoned with. They
 >can't take advantage of the extras in DX9 but that means NOT that they
 >wont work with DX9. Quite the opposite... DX9 will still benefit a
 >Ti4600 as it did with my Ti4200. Small diffeeence showed up with
 >certain games, including a slight speed difference (for the better),,
 >some nicer looking graphics in most of my existing games,, so all of a
 >sudden,, DX9 becomes an almost dead issue if you are worried about it
 >and the Ti4600...
 >
 >My recommendation...
 >First,, in my country, there are very few Ti4600's still for sale and
 >those which are, still have a reasonably high pricetag. They are good
 >cards but for the price they fetch, it may be a good move to think of
 >going to an FX5700 and upwards card for about the same price.
 >
 >Second,, if you can get it real cheap and,, presumably you would be
 >under budget constraints or you wouldn't have bothered asking about
 >lower end cards like 5600's,, then go for it.. You wont be
 >disappointed,, well at least until games progress that far that even
 >FX card owners have to move up or over...
 >
 >In short => Ti4600 - first choice. Absolutely..!!!!


Thanx for your reply as well as all the others who replyed
too.

I have both cards I'm running the FX in the box I posted
above and I have the Ti4600 in a Kn7420pro I put together
for my son with a AMD 1.33hz 256 pc266 box.
I just recently found the Ti 4600 used so I toss it in there
to get past the Gf2 32meg onboard video it has.

I ran MadOnion 2001 on both computers and the ti did blow
the fx away. ti score was 9445 fx score was 6121.
I could run all the tests from the 2003 version on the
1.33hz box so there was no comparsion there.

Well being how my sons box is mainly used for games I'll
leave the Ti in there and I'll suffer <G>

Next on the list is more mem for his box.
Thanx again..<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:34:53 +1200, Bruce Tyler <top.TakeThisOut@bottom.au> wrote:

 >On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:44:13 -0500, InQuisition® <nospam.TakeThisOut@hoofmail.com>
 >wrote:
 >
  >>Hi
  >>Which would perform better on a MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
  >>AMD XP2800 1GB of ram.
  >>
  >>Also which driver set would be the best for each?
  >>TIA
 >
 >Depends which you value in your games - presumably you want it for
 >games or you could buy an older card for next to nothing and be done
 >with your dilema...
 >
 >FX5600-XT - will give you a nice looking image in games but the
 >performance is less then you would appreciate. Infact unless you have
 >ever had the chance to compare them,, you may never know just how poor
 >they are. You might be forgiven for thinking that the FX5600-XT looks
 >good,, but,, if you can see them side-by-side you will see just how
 >piss-poor the 5600 is, not only compared to any GF4 "Ti" series card
 >but in general performance, to many lesser or even older cards... You
 >may be surprised to see a GF3 Ti500 beating the crap out of an
 >FX5600-XT as well... Its single advantage is that it "may" be able to
 >take advantage of DX9. I say "may", as even some of the lesser FX
 >series of cards can't take full advantage of DX9. I was very open eyed
 >when I saw this on a benchmark site - I wont name it as it is not
 >required and besides - I can't remember it...
 >
 >Ti4600 - in straight out grunt and speed performance, it will
 >absolutely slaughter the FX5600-XT,, hands down... This I can say from
 >experience, not that I had a Ti4600, but I had a Ti4200 then I had an
 >FX5600-XT and I nearly cried when I saw the difference... I took mine
 >back and got an FX5700 (completely different from FX5200-5600's) and I
 >can settle for this as it does perform better than th Ti4200 but I
 >would rate its speed comparable to a Ti4600 from what I have observed
 >from friends 4600's. They are still a force to be reckoned with. They
 >can't take advantage of the extras in DX9 but that means NOT that they
 >wont work with DX9. Quite the opposite... DX9 will still benefit a
 >Ti4600 as it did with my Ti4200. Small diffeeence showed up with
 >certain games, including a slight speed difference (for the better),,
 >some nicer looking graphics in most of my existing games,, so all of a
 >sudden,, DX9 becomes an almost dead issue if you are worried about it
 >and the Ti4600...
 >
 >My recommendation...
 >First,, in my country, there are very few Ti4600's still for sale and
 >those which are, still have a reasonably high pricetag. They are good
 >cards but for the price they fetch, it may be a good move to think of
 >going to an FX5700 and upwards card for about the same price.
 >
 >Second,, if you can get it real cheap and,, presumably you would be

I refer to the Ti4600 here of course...

 >under budget constraints or you wouldn't have bothered asking about
 >lower end cards like 5600's,, then go for it.. You wont be
 >disappointed,, well at least until games progress that far that even
 >FX card owners have to move up or over...
 >
 >In short => Ti4600 - first choice. Absolutely..!!!!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: GForce 4 Ti 4600 128MB or GForce FX 5600 XT-TD 128