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Jeffrey Kaplan

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:33 pm
Post subject: GeForce Go 6100, lack of real nVidia Control Panel
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Last week I was provided with a Compaq Presario F730US laptop for work.
It has Vista Home Premium as the OS. The video system is a GeForce Go
6100, actual manufacturer unknown. It has 64M of onboard/dedicated RAM
and shares 223M of off of the system RAM. The display properties says
it's driver version 7.15.10.9815, dated Feb 27, 2007.

I'm trying to set some options like I have on my XP Pro desktop, which
uses a GeForce 8500 GT, but try as I might, I cannot find the settings
panel. On the desktop system, I right-click on the desktop and select
"nView Properties" and I get an nView Desktop Manager which lets me
configure all sorts of things including Window Control, things that
happen with mouse actions, a zoom/magnifier window, some display
effects, etc.

The closest I can come on the laptop is "NVIDIA Control Panel" from the
desktop right-click, but that "control panel" only has for display
controls, Multiple Displays. And there are no multiple displays. It
is set to a single display, the one built into the laptop lid, and I do
not foresee ever changing that. The only other option in this control
panel is to alter the 3D settings, which is not what I want to do (and
don't understand anyway).

Are these settings I'm looking for get removed because this is a
laptop? Because this is Vista? Because it's a Compaq? Is it broken?
Or are they hiding somewhere else? Or something else?

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Mr.E Solved!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:30 pm
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Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:

> Are these settings I'm looking for get removed because this is a
> laptop? Because this is Vista? Because it's a Compaq? Is it broken?
> Or are they hiding somewhere else? Or something else?


All of the above. I doubt very much you can use a non-Compaq driver for
your video chipset. Compaq(HP) drivers specifically tailored to your
laptop model. nView might be specifically disabled for that reason. Only
Compaq knows.

Compaqs typically use "recovery CDs" instead of individual driver
installations, further hindering the stand-alone upgrade process,
however if you see a nvidia driver offered for the geforce-go chipset
and you have the recovery disk handy and you have no critical data you
don't mind losing on that drive, see if it will install.

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Jeffrey Kaplan

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:18 pm
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It is alleged that Mr.E Solved! claimed:

> All of the above. I doubt very much you can use a non-Compaq driver for
> your video chipset. Compaq(HP) drivers specifically tailored to your
> laptop model. nView might be specifically disabled for that reason. Only
> Compaq knows.

Maybe I'll ask them next week. Thanks.

What is doubly odd, though, is that in the built-in Help for the video,
from nVidia, it specifically references and directs the user to access
a settings path that doesn't exist.

> Compaqs typically use "recovery CDs" instead of individual driver

.... And I think they stopped doing even that! There were NO disks
included in the box, AT ALL (and I broke the seal on the box). I had
to make my own recovery disk, it took a DVD-DL.

> installations, further hindering the stand-alone upgrade process,

That shouldn't interfere with installing/upgrading individual drivers,
just set the new-install setup.

> however if you see a nvidia driver offered for the geforce-go chipset
> and you have the recovery disk handy and you have no critical data you
> don't mind losing on that drive, see if it will install.

I hate reinstalling the OS. I had to do that a few times on my last
laptop.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 2:16 am
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Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> It is alleged that Mr.E Solved! claimed:
>
>> All of the above. I doubt very much you can use a non-Compaq driver for
>> your video chipset. Compaq(HP) drivers specifically tailored to your
>> laptop model. nView might be specifically disabled for that reason. Only
>> Compaq knows.
>
> Maybe I'll ask them next week. Thanks.
>
> What is doubly odd, though, is that in the built-in Help for the video,
> from nVidia, it specifically references and directs the user to access
> a settings path that doesn't exist.
>
>> Compaqs typically use "recovery CDs" instead of individual driver
>
> ... And I think they stopped doing even that! There were NO disks
> included in the box, AT ALL (and I broke the seal on the box). I had
> to make my own recovery disk, it took a DVD-DL.
>
>> installations, further hindering the stand-alone upgrade process,
>
> That shouldn't interfere with installing/upgrading individual drivers,
> just set the new-install setup.
>
>> however if you see a nvidia driver offered for the geforce-go chipset
>> and you have the recovery disk handy and you have no critical data you
>> don't mind losing on that drive, see if it will install.
>
> I hate reinstalling the OS. I had to do that a few times on my last
> laptop.
>

Nvidia provides manuals. You can see them in this particular release
directory. The manuals are updated on selected releases, so not
every folder has manuals. Just browse the site, until you find something
you like. (Better than ATI, where the only copy of CCC manual I've
been able to find, is on one of their partners web sites.)

ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/91.33

91.33_ForceWare_Classic_Control_Panel_User_Guide.pdf
91.33_ForceWare_New_Control_Panel_Quick_Start.pdf
91.33_ForceWare_Release_Notes.pdf
91.33_ForceWare_nView_User_Guide.pdf

Notice there is a "Classis" versus a "New" control panel,
and perhaps you are seeing different ones on your various
machines.

On page 6 of this guide, they mention the "Classic Control Panel". This
current guide, is for very recent drivers.

http://www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_1.html

This is the same guide, only archived from 2005.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050216060805/www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_8.html

When I installed my old FX5200, I remember with the classis control panel,
there was a menu item that said it wanted to install something. I selected it
and was asked to reboot. The item then permanently disappeared from the
menu. Once I did that, I could do things like clone, span, dual display
etc. Because of its disappearing act, it is hard to look up for future
reference, so I can't even tell you what to look for.

Paul
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Jeffrey Kaplan

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:56 pm
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Previously on alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia, Paul said:

> Nvidia provides manuals. You can see them in this particular release
> directory. The manuals are updated on selected releases, so not
> every folder has manuals. Just browse the site, until you find something
> you like. (Better than ATI, where the only copy of CCC manual I've
> been able to find, is on one of their partners web sites.)
>
> ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/91.33

I don't think any of those apply here. The control panel is +missing+
almost all controls.

> Notice there is a "Classis" versus a "New" control panel,
> and perhaps you are seeing different ones on your various
> machines.

My XP machine has both, the "classic" is more functional. The Vista
machine has the new one, and it's missing about 99.44% of the settings
that should be there.

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