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Since: Jul 27, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:00 am
Post subject: Hello, Good To Be Back!
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Well it's been a long time since I was last here, overall it looks to have
declined a lot. WAYYY too much spam on this group nowadays. Are the old
faces still here? Tom, John, Jerry etc?
Anyway, down to my question, I'm having a dilemma. Thinking of retiring my
trustee 3.2 gig P4 IC7G rig and going the core duo route. The thing is, I've
been spoilt by the IC7G and am looking for a new equivalent of this modern
classic.
Looking at a CPU like the Core 2 DUO E6850 3.00GHz 'Conroe' 4Mb Cache LGA775
(1333 Mhz).
Have always preferred the Intel chipset on my boards but it's been that long
(the IC7G was a brand new model when I built this) so, can those in the
know enlighten me a little. Here are some of my needs:-
Memory, need at least 2 gig, doing quite a bit of video work and rendering
at the moment.
Storage, looking at SATA II obviously, but need plenty of space. Looking at
something like 2 x 250 gig raid0 for OS and progs, then as many 500 gig
storage drives as I can get in.
So, what's hot and what's not in my range of choices?
Many thanks in advance.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Hello, Good To Be Back! [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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If you're running a P4 above 3GHz you'll likely be disappointed in
the speed increase with a Core Duo chip, especially if you don't
heavily multitask, and especially if you aren't running the highest-end
3D games (which use enough of PCI-E's bandwidth to justify the
upgrade from AGP8X).
Personally I'm waiting for the new 45nm Wolfdale Core Duo chips
from Intel (due in January) before upgrading my IC7G w/ 3GHz
Northwood @ 3.6GHz. Even Wolfdale will be little more than an
incremental upgrade from this current system, aside from the video.
"Dion L Heap" <NoSpam.RemoveThis@thanks.com> wrote in message news:47418e1c$0$13941$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...
> Well it's been a long time since I was last here, overall it looks to have
> declined a lot. WAYYY too much spam on this group nowadays. Are the old
> faces still here? Tom, John, Jerry etc?
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> Anyway, down to my question, I'm having a dilemma. Thinking of retiring my
> trustee 3.2 gig P4 IC7G rig and going the core duo route. The thing is, I've
> been spoilt by the IC7G and am looking for a new equivalent of this modern
> classic.
>
> Looking at a CPU like the Core 2 DUO E6850 3.00GHz 'Conroe' 4Mb Cache LGA775
> (1333 Mhz).
>
> Have always preferred the Intel chipset on my boards but it's been that long
> (the IC7G was a brand new model when I built this) so, can those in the
> know enlighten me a little. Here are some of my needs:-
>
> Memory, need at least 2 gig, doing quite a bit of video work and rendering
> at the moment.
> Storage, looking at SATA II obviously, but need plenty of space. Looking at
> something like 2 x 250 gig raid0 for OS and progs, then as many 500 gig
> storage drives as I can get in.
>
> So, what's hot and what's not in my range of choices?
>
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Dion L Heap
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Hello, Good To Be Back! [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:00:47 GMT, <nospam.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.invalid.net>
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>If you're running a P4 above 3GHz you'll likely be disappointed in
>the speed increase with a Core Duo chip, especially if you don't
>heavily multitask, and especially if you aren't running the highest-end
>3D games (which use enough of PCI-E's bandwidth to justify the
>upgrade from AGP8X).
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>Personally I'm waiting for the new 45nm Wolfdale Core Duo chips
>from Intel (due in January) before upgrading my IC7G w/ 3GHz
>Northwood @ 3.6GHz. Even Wolfdale will be little more than an
>incremental upgrade from this current system, aside from the video.
I disagree. When the P4 Northwoods were all Intel had to offer, the
corresponding AMD processors trounced them soundly. Now the Core 2
chips are doing the same to AMD, so elementary logic will tell you
that the Core 2 processors are head and shoulders above the P4's,
multitasking notwithstanding.
And the Wolfdale chips only bring a paltry 5% performance increase
over the current Intel parts, so unless you're looking forward to the
decreased power usage then you're waiting in vain.
To the OP: The best bang for the buck is the Abit IP35. Uses DDR2
(DDR3 is still too expensive and brings nothing to the table
performance-wise) and will take any current Intel Core processor. If
you need complete control over your fans (nice for a quiet machine)
then you'll want the IP35 Pro which has the uGuru monitor chip. >> Stay informed about: Hello, Good To Be Back! |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:01 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:01 pm
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"Dion L Heap" <NoSpam DeleteThis @thanks.com> wrote in message
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>I was looking at the IN9, is it not a great choice?
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> thanks
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Thing is it's an nvidea chipset, never been a lover of nvidea, having said
that I was never a lover of AMD and now they have my beloved ATI  ( >> Stay informed about: Hello, Good To Be Back! |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:01 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:34 pm
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:52:00 -0000, "Dion L Heap" <NoSpam.TakeThisOut@thanks.com>
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>Ooooo, just found the IX38 QuadGT...
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>Looks good on paper, anyone know different?
It's the follow-on product to the IP35 Pro, but uses the newer X38
chipset. Should be good.
There's a bunch of feedback on most of Abit's current offerings over
on their forum. You can check out the current Intel based boards
here: http://forum.uabit.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48 >> Stay informed about: Hello, Good To Be Back! |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:55 am
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"Folk" <Folk DeleteThis @folk.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:52:00 -0000, "Dion L Heap" <NoSpam DeleteThis @thanks.com>
> wrote:
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>>Ooooo, just found the IX38 QuadGT...
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>>Looks good on paper, anyone know different?
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> It's the follow-on product to the IP35 Pro, but uses the newer X38
> chipset. Should be good.
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> There's a bunch of feedback on most of Abit's current offerings over
> on their forum. You can check out the current Intel based boards
> here: http://forum.uabit.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48
Apart from early problems with Bios which seems to have been rectified with
later releases I'm thinking this is the fav. Thanks for the info
regards,
Dion L Heap >> Stay informed about: Hello, Good To Be Back! |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:01 pm
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Folk wrote:
> And the Wolfdale chips only bring a paltry 5% performance increase
> over the current Intel parts, so unless you're looking forward to the
> decreased power usage then you're waiting in vain.
These gains from SSE4 seem impressive:
http://techgage.com/article/idf_07_sf_skulltrail_qx9650_45nm_performan...preview
....using software designed to take advantage of them. The OP did mention
video editing. The decreased power usage should translate to more
overclocking headroom. My Q6600 @ 3GHz gets mighty warm in this
cool room under full load, even with the monstrous air cooler... >> Stay informed about: Hello, Good To Be Back! |
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