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Since: Nov 30, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:40 am
Post subject: HELP on AX4C Max II M/B
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I'm having major problem on this new mainboard. I couldn't install Windows
XP at all, it fail to copy some files from the CD during the bluescreen
installation. Files that aren't able to copy are random, each installation
will complaint different file. I'm 100% sure is not the CD-Rom disc or
drive. From pass experience, this situation only occur if ram or mainboard
are faulty or incompatibility between them. But I had tried 5 different type
of ram and different ram speed setting that I found from some newsgroup. It
still failed. Ram that I tried included, Kingston CL2 ram, Corsair CL2 ram,
Kingmax CL2.5 ram, Geil CL 2.5 ram and another different chipset CL3 ram
that I can't remember the chipset name. The bios I used is 1.03, I already
replaced the motherboard and power supply which I thought it might be
faulty, but still the same.
What I had found if I install the ram in non-dual memory channel (ie. slot 1
and 2), it seems working fine. But when I installed as dual memory enabled
(slot 1 and 3 or slot 2 and 4), it then failed.
I'm going to try the latest bios (1.0  that just got released few days ago.
But I'm not putting much hope on this new bios.
Any suggestion will be very helpful!
Your prompt reply very much appreciated and CC another copy of your reply to
my email address will be great: lsho RemoveThis @iname.com
Lily |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:40 am
Post subject: Re: HELP on AX4C Max II M/B [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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For starters, run Memtest86. It's a free memory diagnostics utility that
boots from a floppy disk. If it fails in any of the tests, you know it's
something to do with the memory and/or motherboard.
Also, you might want to download the boot floppy diagnostics to check for a
faulty harddrive. Just go to the respective manufactures website to get them
(Maxtor, WD, IBM...etc).
Last but not least. I've seen situations such as yours cause by IDE cables.
The official specifications call that IDE cables cannot be more then 18
inches (457mm) long. On the other hand, they also cannot be shorter than 10
inches (254mm) either. This applies to both 40 and 80 pin cables. SCSI
devices on the other hand are another mater all together. As for SATA
cables, they cannot be longer then 1m. And yes, you can find all the above
mentioned cables in various cables that exceed these specifications.
Obviously, avoid them like the plague. You will be ripping yourself off and
providing more headaches then it's worth.
"Carrot" <lsho RemoveThis @iname.com.REMOVE> wrote in message
news:3fc9d72f$0$20496$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> I'm having major problem on this new mainboard. I couldn't install Windows
> XP at all, it fail to copy some files from the CD during the bluescreen
> installation. Files that aren't able to copy are random, each installation
> will complaint different file. I'm 100% sure is not the CD-Rom disc or
> drive. From pass experience, this situation only occur if ram or mainboard
> are faulty or incompatibility between them. But I had tried 5 different
type
> of ram and different ram speed setting that I found from some newsgroup.
It
> still failed. Ram that I tried included, Kingston CL2 ram, Corsair CL2
ram,
> Kingmax CL2.5 ram, Geil CL 2.5 ram and another different chipset CL3 ram
> that I can't remember the chipset name. The bios I used is 1.03, I already
> replaced the motherboard and power supply which I thought it might be
> faulty, but still the same.
>
> What I had found if I install the ram in non-dual memory channel (ie. slot
1
> and 2), it seems working fine. But when I installed as dual memory enabled
> (slot 1 and 3 or slot 2 and 4), it then failed.
>
> I'm going to try the latest bios (1.0 that just got released few days
ago.
> But I'm not putting much hope on this new bios.
>
> Any suggestion will be very helpful!
>
> Your prompt reply very much appreciated and CC another copy of your reply
to
> my email address will be great: lsho RemoveThis @iname.com
>
> Lily
>
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Since: Nov 30, 2003
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:22 pm
Post subject: Re: HELP on AX4C Max II M/B [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi John,
Thanks, I will give it a try on the memory test program.
By the way, I use all the original IDE and SATA cables that came from the
motherboard. Unless is faulty I guess.
Cheers,
Lily
"John S. Washburn" <JSWashburn DeleteThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:FEryb.64348$Ek.63611@twister.austin.rr.com...
> For starters, run Memtest86. It's a free memory diagnostics utility that
> boots from a floppy disk. If it fails in any of the tests, you know it's
> something to do with the memory and/or motherboard.
>
> Also, you might want to download the boot floppy diagnostics to check for
a
> faulty harddrive. Just go to the respective manufactures website to get
them
> (Maxtor, WD, IBM...etc).
>
> Last but not least. I've seen situations such as yours cause by IDE
cables.
> The official specifications call that IDE cables cannot be more then 18
> inches (457mm) long. On the other hand, they also cannot be shorter than
10
> inches (254mm) either. This applies to both 40 and 80 pin cables. SCSI
> devices on the other hand are another mater all together. As for SATA
> cables, they cannot be longer then 1m. And yes, you can find all the above
> mentioned cables in various cables that exceed these specifications.
> Obviously, avoid them like the plague. You will be ripping yourself off
and
> providing more headaches then it's worth.
>
>
> "Carrot" <lsho DeleteThis @iname.com.REMOVE> wrote in message
> news:3fc9d72f$0$20496$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > I'm having major problem on this new mainboard. I couldn't install
Windows
> > XP at all, it fail to copy some files from the CD during the bluescreen
> > installation. Files that aren't able to copy are random, each
installation
> > will complaint different file. I'm 100% sure is not the CD-Rom disc or
> > drive. From pass experience, this situation only occur if ram or
mainboard
> > are faulty or incompatibility between them. But I had tried 5 different
> type
> > of ram and different ram speed setting that I found from some newsgroup.
> It
> > still failed. Ram that I tried included, Kingston CL2 ram, Corsair CL2
> ram,
> > Kingmax CL2.5 ram, Geil CL 2.5 ram and another different chipset CL3 ram
> > that I can't remember the chipset name. The bios I used is 1.03, I
already
> > replaced the motherboard and power supply which I thought it might be
> > faulty, but still the same.
> >
> > What I had found if I install the ram in non-dual memory channel (ie.
slot
> 1
> > and 2), it seems working fine. But when I installed as dual memory
enabled
> > (slot 1 and 3 or slot 2 and 4), it then failed.
> >
> > I'm going to try the latest bios (1.0 that just got released few days
> ago.
> > But I'm not putting much hope on this new bios.
> >
> > Any suggestion will be very helpful!
> >
> > Your prompt reply very much appreciated and CC another copy of your
reply
> to
> > my email address will be great: lsho DeleteThis @iname.com
> >
> > Lily
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:59 pm
Post subject: Re: HELP on AX4C Max II M/B [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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95% of chance that you have a bad DIMM. When XP don't want to install this
is the most probable cause.
wizza
"Carrot" <lsho RemoveThis @iname.com.REMOVE> a écrit dans le message de
news:3fcb0843$0$20308$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi John,
>
>
> Thanks, I will give it a try on the memory test program.
>
> By the way, I use all the original IDE and SATA cables that came from the
> motherboard. Unless is faulty I guess.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Lily
>
>
> "John S. Washburn" <JSWashburn RemoveThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:FEryb.64348$Ek.63611@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > For starters, run Memtest86. It's a free memory diagnostics utility that
> > boots from a floppy disk. If it fails in any of the tests, you know it's
> > something to do with the memory and/or motherboard.
> >
> > Also, you might want to download the boot floppy diagnostics to check
for
> a
> > faulty harddrive. Just go to the respective manufactures website to get
> them
> > (Maxtor, WD, IBM...etc).
> >
> > Last but not least. I've seen situations such as yours cause by IDE
> cables.
> > The official specifications call that IDE cables cannot be more then 18
> > inches (457mm) long. On the other hand, they also cannot be shorter than
> 10
> > inches (254mm) either. This applies to both 40 and 80 pin cables. SCSI
> > devices on the other hand are another mater all together. As for SATA
> > cables, they cannot be longer then 1m. And yes, you can find all the
above
> > mentioned cables in various cables that exceed these specifications.
> > Obviously, avoid them like the plague. You will be ripping yourself off
> and
> > providing more headaches then it's worth.
> >
> >
> > "Carrot" <lsho RemoveThis @iname.com.REMOVE> wrote in message
> > news:3fc9d72f$0$20496$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > > I'm having major problem on this new mainboard. I couldn't install
> Windows
> > > XP at all, it fail to copy some files from the CD during the
bluescreen
> > > installation. Files that aren't able to copy are random, each
> installation
> > > will complaint different file. I'm 100% sure is not the CD-Rom disc or
> > > drive. From pass experience, this situation only occur if ram or
> mainboard
> > > are faulty or incompatibility between them. But I had tried 5
different
> > type
> > > of ram and different ram speed setting that I found from some
newsgroup.
> > It
> > > still failed. Ram that I tried included, Kingston CL2 ram, Corsair CL2
> > ram,
> > > Kingmax CL2.5 ram, Geil CL 2.5 ram and another different chipset CL3
ram
> > > that I can't remember the chipset name. The bios I used is 1.03, I
> already
> > > replaced the motherboard and power supply which I thought it might be
> > > faulty, but still the same.
> > >
> > > What I had found if I install the ram in non-dual memory channel (ie.
> slot
> > 1
> > > and 2), it seems working fine. But when I installed as dual memory
> enabled
> > > (slot 1 and 3 or slot 2 and 4), it then failed.
> > >
> > > I'm going to try the latest bios (1.0 that just got released few
days
> > ago.
> > > But I'm not putting much hope on this new bios.
> > >
> > > Any suggestion will be very helpful!
> > >
> > > Your prompt reply very much appreciated and CC another copy of your
> reply
> > to
> > > my email address will be great: lsho RemoveThis @iname.com
> > >
> > > Lily
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 1:30 am
Post subject: Re: HELP on AX4C Max II M/B [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I've seen flaky power supplies do the same thing. During the Windows
Installation, both the CPU and hard drive are being stressed out which puts
a major load on the power supply. If it has bad or failing capacitors, the
DC current will be very unstable. And it's under these conditions that
something nasty will happen during software installation.
"Wizza" <mks_wizza.RemoveThis@hotmail_.com> wrote in message
news:Z4Hzb.6627$7C.1334@charlie.risq.qc.ca...
> 95% of chance that you have a bad DIMM. When XP don't want to install
this
> is the most probable cause.
>
> wizza
>
> "Carrot" <lsho.RemoveThis@iname.com.REMOVE> a écrit dans le message de
> news:3fcb0843$0$20308$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > Hi John,
> >
> >
> > Thanks, I will give it a try on the memory test program.
> >
> > By the way, I use all the original IDE and SATA cables that came from
the
> > motherboard. Unless is faulty I guess.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lily
> >
> >
> > "John S. Washburn" <JSWashburn.RemoveThis@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:FEryb.64348$Ek.63611@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > > For starters, run Memtest86. It's a free memory diagnostics utility
that
> > > boots from a floppy disk. If it fails in any of the tests, you know
it's
> > > something to do with the memory and/or motherboard.
> > >
> > > Also, you might want to download the boot floppy diagnostics to check
> for
> > a
> > > faulty harddrive. Just go to the respective manufactures website to
get
> > them
> > > (Maxtor, WD, IBM...etc).
> > >
> > > Last but not least. I've seen situations such as yours cause by IDE
> > cables.
> > > The official specifications call that IDE cables cannot be more then
18
> > > inches (457mm) long. On the other hand, they also cannot be shorter
than
> > 10
> > > inches (254mm) either. This applies to both 40 and 80 pin cables. SCSI
> > > devices on the other hand are another mater all together. As for SATA
> > > cables, they cannot be longer then 1m. And yes, you can find all the
> above
> > > mentioned cables in various cables that exceed these specifications.
> > > Obviously, avoid them like the plague. You will be ripping yourself
off
> > and
> > > providing more headaches then it's worth.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Carrot" <lsho.RemoveThis@iname.com.REMOVE> wrote in message
> > > news:3fc9d72f$0$20496$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > > > I'm having major problem on this new mainboard. I couldn't install
> > Windows
> > > > XP at all, it fail to copy some files from the CD during the
> bluescreen
> > > > installation. Files that aren't able to copy are random, each
> > installation
> > > > will complaint different file. I'm 100% sure is not the CD-Rom disc
or
> > > > drive. From pass experience, this situation only occur if ram or
> > mainboard
> > > > are faulty or incompatibility between them. But I had tried 5
> different
> > > type
> > > > of ram and different ram speed setting that I found from some
> newsgroup.
> > > It
> > > > still failed. Ram that I tried included, Kingston CL2 ram, Corsair
CL2
> > > ram,
> > > > Kingmax CL2.5 ram, Geil CL 2.5 ram and another different chipset CL3
> ram
> > > > that I can't remember the chipset name. The bios I used is 1.03, I
> > already
> > > > replaced the motherboard and power supply which I thought it might
be
> > > > faulty, but still the same.
> > > >
> > > > What I had found if I install the ram in non-dual memory channel
(ie.
> > slot
> > > 1
> > > > and 2), it seems working fine. But when I installed as dual memory
> > enabled
> > > > (slot 1 and 3 or slot 2 and 4), it then failed.
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to try the latest bios (1.0 that just got released few
> days
> > > ago.
> > > > But I'm not putting much hope on this new bios.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestion will be very helpful!
> > > >
> > > > Your prompt reply very much appreciated and CC another copy of your
> > reply
> > > to
> > > > my email address will be great: lsho.RemoveThis@iname.com
> > > >
> > > > Lily
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 4:20 am
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I had tried 5 different type of brand Dimm already and replaced the power
supply as well. Still the same.
I do believe somehow there is compatibility problem between the ram and the
board. But unforunately I can't find which one will be compatible with this
board. I had used the Corsair PC3200 CL2 as certified by Aopen test that
this will work. Still having same problem, I also tried few other brand of
ram which some of them are certified to be compatible with this board.
Unforunately no luck.
Anyone can tell me what brand of ram and setting do you use?
Is there anyway to use CL2 ram too?
Any help will be much appreciated.
Lily
"John S. Washburn" <JSWashburn DeleteThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:TF7Ab.85348$Ek.70389@twister.austin.rr.com...
> I've seen flaky power supplies do the same thing. During the Windows
> Installation, both the CPU and hard drive are being stressed out which
puts
> a major load on the power supply. If it has bad or failing capacitors, the
> DC current will be very unstable. And it's under these conditions that
> something nasty will happen during software installation.
>
> "Wizza" <mks_wizza DeleteThis @hotmail_.com> wrote in message
> news:Z4Hzb.6627$7C.1334@charlie.risq.qc.ca...
> > 95% of chance that you have a bad DIMM. When XP don't want to install
> this
> > is the most probable cause.
> >
> > wizza
> >
> > "Carrot" <lsho DeleteThis @iname.com.REMOVE> a écrit dans le message de
> > news:3fcb0843$0$20308$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, I will give it a try on the memory test program.
> > >
> > > By the way, I use all the original IDE and SATA cables that came from
> the
> > > motherboard. Unless is faulty I guess.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Lily
> > >
> > >
> > > "John S. Washburn" <JSWashburn DeleteThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:FEryb.64348$Ek.63611@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > > > For starters, run Memtest86. It's a free memory diagnostics utility
> that
> > > > boots from a floppy disk. If it fails in any of the tests, you know
> it's
> > > > something to do with the memory and/or motherboard.
> > > >
> > > > Also, you might want to download the boot floppy diagnostics to
check
> > for
> > > a
> > > > faulty harddrive. Just go to the respective manufactures website to
> get
> > > them
> > > > (Maxtor, WD, IBM...etc).
> > > >
> > > > Last but not least. I've seen situations such as yours cause by IDE
> > > cables.
> > > > The official specifications call that IDE cables cannot be more then
> 18
> > > > inches (457mm) long. On the other hand, they also cannot be shorter
> than
> > > 10
> > > > inches (254mm) either. This applies to both 40 and 80 pin cables.
SCSI
> > > > devices on the other hand are another mater all together. As for
SATA
> > > > cables, they cannot be longer then 1m. And yes, you can find all the
> > above
> > > > mentioned cables in various cables that exceed these specifications.
> > > > Obviously, avoid them like the plague. You will be ripping yourself
> off
> > > and
> > > > providing more headaches then it's worth.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Carrot" <lsho DeleteThis @iname.com.REMOVE> wrote in message
> > > > news:3fc9d72f$0$20496$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > > > > I'm having major problem on this new mainboard. I couldn't install
> > > Windows
> > > > > XP at all, it fail to copy some files from the CD during the
> > bluescreen
> > > > > installation. Files that aren't able to copy are random, each
> > > installation
> > > > > will complaint different file. I'm 100% sure is not the CD-Rom
disc
> or
> > > > > drive. From pass experience, this situation only occur if ram or
> > > mainboard
> > > > > are faulty or incompatibility between them. But I had tried 5
> > different
> > > > type
> > > > > of ram and different ram speed setting that I found from some
> > newsgroup.
> > > > It
> > > > > still failed. Ram that I tried included, Kingston CL2 ram, Corsair
> CL2
> > > > ram,
> > > > > Kingmax CL2.5 ram, Geil CL 2.5 ram and another different chipset
CL3
> > ram
> > > > > that I can't remember the chipset name. The bios I used is 1.03, I
> > > already
> > > > > replaced the motherboard and power supply which I thought it might
> be
> > > > > faulty, but still the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I had found if I install the ram in non-dual memory channel
> (ie.
> > > slot
> > > > 1
> > > > > and 2), it seems working fine. But when I installed as dual memory
> > > enabled
> > > > > (slot 1 and 3 or slot 2 and 4), it then failed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm going to try the latest bios (1.0 that just got released few
> > days
> > > > ago.
> > > > > But I'm not putting much hope on this new bios.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestion will be very helpful!
> > > > >
> > > > > Your prompt reply very much appreciated and CC another copy of
your
> > > reply
> > > > to
> > > > > my email address will be great: lsho DeleteThis @iname.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Lily
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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