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"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67 RemoveThis @ezrs.com> wrote in message news:<2W0Dc.240$ngA1.155@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
 > Darren Harris <Searcher7 RemoveThis @mail.con2.com> wrote:
  > > I replaced a 233mhz processor inside of a Compaq Deskpro with a 333mhz
  > > processor, which is the maximum the motherboard will take.
  > >
  > > But now upon boot-up, the memory count and initial screens no longer
  > > show. It's starts on the white "Compaq" screen, followed by the
  > > "Windows 98" screen, and then the desktop.
 >
 > Sounds as if the memory count is going through too fast. Have you tried to
 > unplug the keyboard and wait for the "no keyboard" error message to appear,
 > and then plug in the keyboard?

?!? There is no memory count. The machine starts at the white Compaq logo screen.

 > I think that'll give you enough of a pause so that you can go into BIOS
 > setup that way.
 >
 > BTW, at 233Mhz to 333Mhz, I assume you've replaced a Intel Pentium with an
 > AMD K6 of some sort?

?!? You can't swap an Intel for an AMD.

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On 26 Jun 2004 14:32:45 -0700, Searcher7.RemoveThis@mail.con2.com (Darren Harris)
wrote:

 >"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67.RemoveThis@ezrs.com> wrote in message news:<2W0Dc.240$ngA1.155@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
  >> Darren Harris <Searcher7.RemoveThis@mail.con2.com> wrote:
   >> > I replaced a 233mhz processor inside of a Compaq Deskpro with a 333mhz
   >> > processor, which is the maximum the motherboard will take.
   >> >
   >> > But now upon boot-up, the memory count and initial screens no longer
   >> > show. It's starts on the white "Compaq" screen, followed by the
   >> > "Windows 98" screen, and then the desktop.
  >>
  >> Sounds as if the memory count is going through too fast. Have you tried to
  >> unplug the keyboard and wait for the "no keyboard" error message to appear,
  >> and then plug in the keyboard?
 >
 >?!? There is no memory count. The machine starts at the white Compaq logo screen.
 >
  >> I think that'll give you enough of a pause so that you can go into BIOS
  >> setup that way.
  >>
  >> BTW, at 233Mhz to 333Mhz, I assume you've replaced a Intel Pentium with an
  >> AMD K6 of some sort?
 >
 >?!? You can't swap an Intel for an AMD.

Why don't you tell us *which* CPU you had/have instead of arguing without
the facts... and yes a Pentium *could* be replaced by a K6 in many Socket 7
mbrds. I'm guessing Slot 1 Pentium II??

My suggestion is to look for a BIOS update and if available, install it
with the old 233MHz CPU - then try the switch again. If no BIOS update is
available, it's likely that Compaq has something in their proprietary BIOS
which prevents using a faster CPU. OEMs do that kind of thing - one of the
principal reasons that enthusiasts shun their wares.

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Darren Harris <Searcher7.RemoveThis@mail.con2.com> wrote:
 > "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67.RemoveThis@ezrs.com> wrote in message
 > news:<2W0Dc.240$ngA1.155@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
  >> Darren Harris <Searcher7.RemoveThis@mail.con2.com> wrote:
   >>> I replaced a 233mhz processor inside of a Compaq Deskpro with a
   >>> 333mhz processor, which is the maximum the motherboard will take.
   >>>
   >>> But now upon boot-up, the memory count and initial screens no longer
   >>> show. It's starts on the white "Compaq" screen, followed by the
   >>> "Windows 98" screen, and then the desktop.
  >>
  >> Sounds as if the memory count is going through too fast. Have you
  >> tried to unplug the keyboard and wait for the "no keyboard" error
  >> message to appear, and then plug in the keyboard?
 >
 > ?!? There is no memory count. The machine starts at the white Compaq
 > logo screen.

So have you tried unplugging the keyboard prior to bootup? That should
prevent it from booting into Windows 98 until it sees a keyboard.

  >> BTW, at 233Mhz to 333Mhz, I assume you've replaced a Intel Pentium
  >> with an AMD K6 of some sort?
 >
 > ?!? You can't swap an Intel for an AMD.

Sure you could, in the old days prior to the advent of the Athlon. All of
the old K6 chips were plug-in compatible with Pentium chips, and could use
the same motherboards as Pentiums. Prior to that all AMD 486's were plug
compatible with Intel 486's, etc.

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"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67.DeleteThis@ezrs.com> wrote in message news:<dduDc.487$JiU1.441@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
 > Darren Harris <Searcher7.DeleteThis@mail.con2.com> wrote:
  > > "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67.DeleteThis@ezrs.com> wrote in message
  > > news:<2W0Dc.240$ngA1.155@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
   > >> Darren Harris <Searcher7.DeleteThis@mail.con2.com> wrote:
   > >>> I replaced a 233mhz processor inside of a Compaq Deskpro with a
   > >>> 333mhz processor, which is the maximum the motherboard will take.
   > >>>
   > >>> But now upon boot-up, the memory count and initial screens no longer
   > >>> show. It's starts on the white "Compaq" screen, followed by the
   > >>> "Windows 98" screen, and then the desktop.
   > >>
   > >> Sounds as if the memory count is going through too fast. Have you
   > >> tried to unplug the keyboard and wait for the "no keyboard" error
   > >> message to appear, and then plug in the keyboard?
  > >
  > > ?!? There is no memory count. The machine starts at the white Compaq
  > > logo screen.
 >
 > So have you tried unplugging the keyboard prior to bootup? That should
 > prevent it from booting into Windows 98 until it sees a keyboard.

Unplugging the keyboard affects nothing. It still continues to the
desktop.

   > >> BTW, at 233Mhz to 333Mhz, I assume you've replaced a Intel Pentium
   > >> with an AMD K6 of some sort?
  > >
  > > ?!? You can't swap an Intel for an AMD.
 >
 > Sure you could, in the old days prior to the advent of the Athlon. All of
 > the old K6 chips were plug-in compatible with Pentium chips, and could use
 > the same motherboards as Pentiums. Prior to that all AMD 486's were plug

Okay. I was thinking about trying put the original 233mhz chip back in
to see if it will start showing the early screens again.

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George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message news:<qr2td09ficngch9sf59j0fgj45hqr3p4kq.DeleteThis@4ax.com>...
 > On 26 Jun 2004 14:32:45 -0700, Searcher7.DeleteThis@mail.con2.com (Darren Harris)
 > wrote:
 >
  > >"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67.DeleteThis@ezrs.com> wrote in message news:<2W0Dc.240$ngA1.155@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
   > >> Darren Harris <Searcher7.DeleteThis@mail.con2.com> wrote:
   > >> > I replaced a 233mhz processor inside of a Compaq Deskpro with a 333mhz
   > >> > processor, which is the maximum the motherboard will take.
   > >> >
   > >> > But now upon boot-up, the memory count and initial screens no longer
   > >> > show. It's starts on the white "Compaq" screen, followed by the
   > >> > "Windows 98" screen, and then the desktop.
   > >>
   > >> Sounds as if the memory count is going through too fast. Have you tried to
   > >> unplug the keyboard and wait for the "no keyboard" error message to appear,
   > >> and then plug in the keyboard?
  > >
  > >?!? There is no memory count. The machine starts at the white Compaq logo screen.
  > >
   > >> I think that'll give you enough of a pause so that you can go into BIOS
   > >> setup that way.
   > >>
   > >> BTW, at 233Mhz to 333Mhz, I assume you've replaced a Intel Pentium with an
   > >> AMD K6 of some sort?
  > >
  > >?!? You can't swap an Intel for an AMD.
 >
 > Why don't you tell us *which* CPU you had/have instead of arguing without
 > the facts... and yes a Pentium *could* be replaced by a K6 in many Socket 7
 > mbrds. I'm guessing Slot 1 Pentium II??

I did say in the post that started this thread that I replaced a
233mhz with a 333mhz.(333mhz is the highest that the motherboard will
take).

 > My suggestion is to look for a BIOS update and if available, install it
 > with the old 233MHz CPU - then try the switch again. If no BIOS update is
 > available, it's likely that Compaq has something in their proprietary BIOS
 > which prevents using a faster CPU. OEMs do that kind of thing - one of the
 > principal reasons that enthusiasts shun their wares.

Where can I get a BIOS update, and how do I install it?

Thanks.

Darren Harris
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Darren Harris <Searcher7.TakeThisOut@mail.con2.com> wrote:
 > George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in
 > message news:<qr2td09ficngch9sf59j0fgj45hqr3p4kq.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...
  >> Why don't you tell us *which* CPU you had/have instead of arguing
  >> without the facts... and yes a Pentium *could* be replaced by a K6
  >> in many Socket 7 mbrds. I'm guessing Slot 1 Pentium II??
 >
 > I did say in the post that started this thread that I replaced a
 > 233mhz with a 333mhz.(333mhz is the highest that the motherboard will
 > take).

But that's not enough information. You also need to tell us whether it was a
Pentium I or Pentium II, for example. 233Mhz or 333Mhz is just the
clockspeed at which a particular processor model ran at, but there were
various Intel or AMD models that ran at 233Mhz and various other models at
333Mhz. For example the original Pentium I models (i.e. Pentium & Pentium
MMX), ran at speeds ranging from 50Mhz all of the way upto 233Mhz. Pentium
II models ranged from 233Mhz upto 450Mhz. AMD K6 (i.e. K6, K6-II and K6-III)
models ranged from 166Mhz to 550Mhz. So you can see there was an overlap in
the clockspeed ratings of Pentium and Pentium II, and it happened to be
right at that 233Mhz; and there was an overlap of clock speeds between K6
and Pentium II at 333Mhz.

If you don't know what model of processor you have, then one thing you can
do is to actually let the machine boot into Windows 98 and then once it's
settled down, take your mouse and right click on the My Computer icon and
select Properties. That should tell you whether you have a Pentium or
Pentium II.

  >> My suggestion is to look for a BIOS update and if available, install
  >> it with the old 233MHz CPU - then try the switch again. If no BIOS
  >> update is available, it's likely that Compaq has something in their
  >> proprietary BIOS which prevents using a faster CPU. OEMs do that
  >> kind of thing - one of the principal reasons that enthusiasts shun
  >> their wares.
 >
 > Where can I get a BIOS update, and how do I install it?

Well, HP's website, for one. Do a search on your particular Compaq model
under the HP support pages.

Another way to find out what processor your computer originally had is to do
this search for your model of computer and it should state what processors
were inside that machine, as well as what clockspeeds those processors ran
at.

However, one possibility to consider is that this white Compaq screen is
just a normal bootup screen. Various manufacturers have this feature where
they have a pretty bootup screen and an ugly bootup screen. The ugly bootup
screen is the screen where you see all of the boot info like memory count,
device list, etc. This white Compaq logo screen might just be the pretty
boot screen, which hides all of this ugly detail. Often the way to switch
from the pretty to the ugly screen is to get into the BIOS configuration,
and this would just be one of the options within the configuration. It's
possible that once you replaced the processor, that all of the options in
the BIOS configuration were reset to defaults and one of the defaults was to
use the pretty screen rather than the ugly screen.

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On 24 Jun 2004 17:50:36 -0700, Searcher7 RemoveThis @mail.con2.com (Darren Harris)
wrote:
 >I replaced a 233mhz processor inside of a Compaq Deskpro with a 333mhz
 >processor, which is the maximum the motherboard will take.
 >
 >But now upon boot-up, the memory count and initial screens no longer
 >show. It's starts on the white "Compaq" screen, followed by the
 >"Windows 98" screen, and then the desktop.
 >
 >Is there anyway to change this so that I can actually see the memory
 >count-up and processor it now has?
 >
 >I can't get into the BIOS because any key I hit(F10,F11,DEL, ect.)
 >after powering on results in the "301-Keyboard error" screen.(I get
 >nothing but a black screen if I try ESC).

All Deskpro's use F10 to get into the BIOS, however some of the really
archaic ones had to have a special partition installed on the hard
drive in order to boot into the BIOS. You will probably need to
download the BIOS creation disks and either use them to create a BIOS
editing partition on your hard drive or simply boot up from the floppy
disks every time you want to access the BIOS.

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Tony Hill <hilla_nospam_20.TakeThisOut@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:<pj8ud05fb06u2dfigfu0ccfpmh28so4pb0.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...
 > On 24 Jun 2004 17:50:36 -0700, Searcher7.TakeThisOut@mail.con2.com (Darren Harris)
 > wrote:
  > >I replaced a 233mhz processor inside of a Compaq Deskpro with a 333mhz
  > >processor, which is the maximum the motherboard will take.
  > >
  > >But now upon boot-up, the memory count and initial screens no longer
  > >show. It's starts on the white "Compaq" screen, followed by the
  > >"Windows 98" screen, and then the desktop.
  > >
  > >Is there anyway to change this so that I can actually see the memory
  > >count-up and processor it now has?
  > >
  > >I can't get into the BIOS because any key I hit(F10,F11,DEL, ect.)
  > >after powering on results in the "301-Keyboard error" screen.(I get
  > >nothing but a black screen if I try ESC).
 >
 > All Deskpro's use F10 to get into the BIOS, however some of the really
 > archaic ones had to have a special partition installed on the hard
 > drive in order to boot into the BIOS. You will probably need to
 > download the BIOS creation disks and either use them to create a BIOS
 > editing partition on your hard drive or simply boot up from the floppy
 > disks every time you want to access the BIOS.

Well, since I cannot get any of the info screens, let alone into the
BIOS, I wouldn't know how to determine if what you said applies to
this sytsem.

Thanks.

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On 27 Jul 2004 15:27:19 -0700, Searcher7 DeleteThis @mail.con2.com (Darren Harris)
wrote:
 >Tony Hill <hilla_nospam_20 DeleteThis @yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:<pj8ud05fb06u2dfigfu0ccfpmh28so4pb0 DeleteThis @4ax.com>...
  >> On 24 Jun 2004 17:50:36 -0700, Searcher7 DeleteThis @mail.con2.com (Darren Harris)
  >> wrote:
  >> All Deskpro's use F10 to get into the BIOS, however some of the really
  >> archaic ones had to have a special partition installed on the hard
  >> drive in order to boot into the BIOS. You will probably need to
  >> download the BIOS creation disks and either use them to create a BIOS
  >> editing partition on your hard drive or simply boot up from the floppy
  >> disks every time you want to access the BIOS.
 >
 >Well, since I cannot get any of the info screens, let alone into the
 >BIOS, I wouldn't know how to determine if what you said applies to
 >this sytsem.

Here, go to the following link, download the file and make the three
disks it asks for. Try booting from them and see if that will get you
to the BIOS. That should do the trick for you.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/Deskpro/us/download/263.html" target="_blank">http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/Deskpro/us/download/263.html</a>



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