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Since: Jun 24, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:26 am
Post subject: IC7 Max 3 Cold boot problem solved
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Hello,
The bios setting Disable Unused PCI Clock YES was the culprit!
First system specs again:
IC7Max3, flashed to bios 16
512 MB Geil PC 4000 ram
37 GB WD Raptor SATA, raid controller
80 GB WD PATA, IDE1
Lite-On DVD and Yamaha CD/RW on IDE2
SB 5.1
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Sapphire
Antec True 480 PS
Windows XP Pro, all updates
This system would not cold boot without first interupting power (pull plug,
turn off computer power from surge protector, etc). Fans would spin, HD
whir, no beep or post.
Went to a friends house today who has more computers than me, and especially
an IC7G plus one of those PCI card troubleshooters. PCI error check shows
code F8, which we could not find a reference to in the literature or on the
web. Moved components around tried three different power supplies, Nvidia
board GF3, Corsair 3200 versus my ram = same problem. System will restart
just fine, but from a shutdown, it would not post without power interuption.
Reflashed bios with boot sector switch, no solution.
Started playing with default bios settings that we have never changed.
SOLUTION: Disable Unused PCI Clock by default is YES. On my system,
turning this to NO fixed the problem. My buddies IC7G with two SATA drives,
Corsair ram, GF4Ti4200 works perfect with this setting at YES.
Am I the only one in the world who has experienced this problem?
Cheers,
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Since: Jul 17, 2004
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:11 pm
Post subject: Re: IC7 Max 3 Cold boot problem solved [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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NO!.
I have an IC7 and for quite some time was overclocking a P4c 2.6 at 250 X
13. I decided to upgrade a bit. I swapped out my three 120GB IDE drives for
two 250GB SATA drives in RAID-1. I had to go from Bios 13 to 24 for the
drive support.
I also went from a P4c to a P4e 2.8 that I can't seem to overclock all that
well. 250 fsb is a no post and 240 (for 3.37Ghz) is stable but once the
machine is turned 'off' it will NOT restart without turning the PSU off and
fighting with it for a while.
Also, when it does finally boot, each and every time the memory buss will
revert from '5:4' to 'SPD' which is 1:1 by default! And then the PC will not
boot at 240Mhz memory.
Once its booted it'll run Prime and Folding and game for hours without a
hiccup. Turn it off for the night and your doomed!
I tried everything, I'll try this today.
"Carlshead" <carlshead RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:K5oGc.18546$W6.3142@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Hello,
> The bios setting Disable Unused PCI Clock YES was the culprit!
>
> First system specs again:
> IC7Max3, flashed to bios 16
> 512 MB Geil PC 4000 ram
> 37 GB WD Raptor SATA, raid controller
> 80 GB WD PATA, IDE1
> Lite-On DVD and Yamaha CD/RW on IDE2
> SB 5.1
> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Sapphire
> Antec True 480 PS
> Windows XP Pro, all updates
>
> This system would not cold boot without first interupting power (pull
plug,
> turn off computer power from surge protector, etc). Fans would spin, HD
> whir, no beep or post.
>
> Went to a friends house today who has more computers than me, and
especially
> an IC7G plus one of those PCI card troubleshooters. PCI error check shows
> code F8, which we could not find a reference to in the literature or on
the
> web. Moved components around tried three different power supplies, Nvidia
> board GF3, Corsair 3200 versus my ram = same problem. System will restart
> just fine, but from a shutdown, it would not post without power
interuption.
> Reflashed bios with boot sector switch, no solution.
>
> Started playing with default bios settings that we have never changed.
> SOLUTION: Disable Unused PCI Clock by default is YES. On my system,
> turning this to NO fixed the problem. My buddies IC7G with two SATA
drives,
> Corsair ram, GF4Ti4200 works perfect with this setting at YES.
>
> Am I the only one in the world who has experienced this problem?
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
>
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:59 pm
Post subject: Re: IC7 Max 3 Cold boot problem solved [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I run with the setting at yes as well...
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Thomas Geery
Network+ certified
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 130,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^
"Carlshead" <carlshead DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:K5oGc.18546$W6.3142@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Hello,
> The bios setting Disable Unused PCI Clock YES was the culprit!
>
> First system specs again:
> IC7Max3, flashed to bios 16
> 512 MB Geil PC 4000 ram
> 37 GB WD Raptor SATA, raid controller
> 80 GB WD PATA, IDE1
> Lite-On DVD and Yamaha CD/RW on IDE2
> SB 5.1
> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Sapphire
> Antec True 480 PS
> Windows XP Pro, all updates
>
> This system would not cold boot without first interupting power (pull
plug,
> turn off computer power from surge protector, etc). Fans would spin, HD
> whir, no beep or post.
>
> Went to a friends house today who has more computers than me, and
especially
> an IC7G plus one of those PCI card troubleshooters. PCI error check shows
> code F8, which we could not find a reference to in the literature or on
the
> web. Moved components around tried three different power supplies, Nvidia
> board GF3, Corsair 3200 versus my ram = same problem. System will restart
> just fine, but from a shutdown, it would not post without power
interuption.
> Reflashed bios with boot sector switch, no solution.
>
> Started playing with default bios settings that we have never changed.
> SOLUTION: Disable Unused PCI Clock by default is YES. On my system,
> turning this to NO fixed the problem. My buddies IC7G with two SATA
drives,
> Corsair ram, GF4Ti4200 works perfect with this setting at YES.
>
> Am I the only one in the world who has experienced this problem?
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
>
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Since: Jul 06, 2004
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:16 am
Post subject: Re: IC7 Max 3 Cold boot problem solved [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Had the same problem.
System was installed and working fine with 2 Maxtor Plus 9s on mainboard
SATA (Temp setup waiting to free up 2 Raptors)
Cloned the main drive onto 2 Raptor 74s raided on chip SATA, system started
fine, shut down then couldn't restart without removing power first. Moved
the Raptors to the mainboard SATA, worked fine.
Just moved them back to the on chip SATA & switched off disable unused PCI
clock, system working fine.
Also tried the Maxtors with on chip SATA & disable unused... enabled, worked
fine
On my setup it's the combination of Raptor drives, on chip SATA & disable
unused PCI clock switched on, remove any of these 3 & it works a treat.
Andy.
System:
IC7 Max3 (BIOS 16)
P4C 3.2 Gig
1024 MB Corsair PC4000
2x 74 GB WD Raptor SATA - currently onchip raid
Pioneer 117 DVD
SB Audigy
Radeon 9800 XT, Hercules
Windows XP Pro, all updates
"Carlshead" <carlshead.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:K5oGc.18546$W6.3142@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Hello,
> The bios setting Disable Unused PCI Clock YES was the culprit!
>
> First system specs again:
> IC7Max3, flashed to bios 16
> 512 MB Geil PC 4000 ram
> 37 GB WD Raptor SATA, raid controller
> 80 GB WD PATA, IDE1
> Lite-On DVD and Yamaha CD/RW on IDE2
> SB 5.1
> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Sapphire
> Antec True 480 PS
> Windows XP Pro, all updates
>
> This system would not cold boot without first interupting power (pull
plug,
> turn off computer power from surge protector, etc). Fans would spin, HD
> whir, no beep or post.
>
> Went to a friends house today who has more computers than me, and
especially
> an IC7G plus one of those PCI card troubleshooters. PCI error check shows
> code F8, which we could not find a reference to in the literature or on
the
> web. Moved components around tried three different power supplies, Nvidia
> board GF3, Corsair 3200 versus my ram = same problem. System will restart
> just fine, but from a shutdown, it would not post without power
interuption.
> Reflashed bios with boot sector switch, no solution.
>
> Started playing with default bios settings that we have never changed.
> SOLUTION: Disable Unused PCI Clock by default is YES. On my system,
> turning this to NO fixed the problem. My buddies IC7G with two SATA
drives,
> Corsair ram, GF4Ti4200 works perfect with this setting at YES.
>
> Am I the only one in the world who has experienced this problem?
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:56 am
Post subject: Re: IC7 Max 3 Cold boot problem solved [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> Just moved them back to the on chip SATA & switched off disable unused PCI
> clock, system working fine.
>
> Also tried the Maxtors with on chip SATA & disable unused... enabled,
worked
> fine
>
> On my setup it's the combination of Raptor drives, on chip SATA & disable
> unused PCI clock switched on, remove any of these 3 & it works a treat.
>
> Andy.
> System:
> IC7 Max3 (BIOS 16)
> P4C 3.2 Gig
> 1024 MB Corsair PC4000
> 2x 74 GB WD Raptor SATA - currently onchip raid
> Pioneer 117 DVD
> SB Audigy
> Radeon 9800 XT, Hercules
> Windows XP Pro, all updates
>
Hi Andy,
Good thing Google Groups will keep this archived for others who hit this
snag. I worked on this problem off and on for three weeks and was about to
RMA the board. The one thing I give Dell as a nice perk is their community
forum with moderators. I wonder how many false RMA's would be prevented if
Abit and Asus had official forums?
Cheers,
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:56 am
Post subject: Re: IC7 Max 3 Cold boot problem solved [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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well, there are some regulars in this group, myself and many others, who
save this kind of info and make it available to others that ask...
--
Thomas Geery
Network+ certified
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 130,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^
"Carlshead" <carlshead.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:R_GGc.18528$T72.9393@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > Just moved them back to the on chip SATA & switched off disable unused
PCI
> > clock, system working fine.
> >
> > Also tried the Maxtors with on chip SATA & disable unused... enabled,
> worked
> > fine
> >
> > On my setup it's the combination of Raptor drives, on chip SATA &
disable
> > unused PCI clock switched on, remove any of these 3 & it works a treat.
> >
> > Andy.
> > System:
> > IC7 Max3 (BIOS 16)
> > P4C 3.2 Gig
> > 1024 MB Corsair PC4000
> > 2x 74 GB WD Raptor SATA - currently onchip raid
> > Pioneer 117 DVD
> > SB Audigy
> > Radeon 9800 XT, Hercules
> > Windows XP Pro, all updates
> >
> Hi Andy,
> Good thing Google Groups will keep this archived for others who hit this
> snag. I worked on this problem off and on for three weeks and was about
to
> RMA the board. The one thing I give Dell as a nice perk is their
community
> forum with moderators. I wonder how many false RMA's would be prevented
if
> Abit and Asus had official forums?
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:12 am
Post subject: Re: IC7 Max 3 Cold boot problem solved [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Tom,
Trust me, I have been lurking in this forum ever since I bough my first Abit
board (BH6). You have been helpful to many folks over the years. I even
remember people semi-flaming you for having Network Certified in your posts!
Keep up the good work.
As the boards and Soft Menu have gotten more complex some of the bios
settings are bewildering even to the relatively experienced. I know for a
fact that configuring SATA raid on the IC7Max3 for me was pure trial and
error.
Cheers,
Carl
"TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM- RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
news:5XHGc.8173$pY2.4368@lakeread01...
> well, there are some regulars in this group, myself and many others, who
> save this kind of info and make it available to others that ask...
>
> --
>
> Thomas Geery
> Network+ certified
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font</a>>
> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
> This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
> over 130,000 FTP users served!
> ^^^^^^^
>
>
>
>
> "Carlshead" <carlshead RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:R_GGc.18528$T72.9393@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > Just moved them back to the on chip SATA & switched off disable unused
> PCI
> > > clock, system working fine.
> > >
> > > Also tried the Maxtors with on chip SATA & disable unused... enabled,
> > worked
> > > fine
> > >
> > > On my setup it's the combination of Raptor drives, on chip SATA &
> disable
> > > unused PCI clock switched on, remove any of these 3 & it works a
treat.
> > >
> > > Andy.
> > > System:
> > > IC7 Max3 (BIOS 16)
> > > P4C 3.2 Gig
> > > 1024 MB Corsair PC4000
> > > 2x 74 GB WD Raptor SATA - currently onchip raid
> > > Pioneer 117 DVD
> > > SB Audigy
> > > Radeon 9800 XT, Hercules
> > > Windows XP Pro, all updates
> > >
> > Hi Andy,
> > Good thing Google Groups will keep this archived for others who hit this
> > snag. I worked on this problem off and on for three weeks and was about
> to
> > RMA the board. The one thing I give Dell as a nice perk is their
> community
> > forum with moderators. I wonder how many false RMA's would be prevented
> if
> > Abit and Asus had official forums?
> > Cheers,
> > Carl
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:12 am
Post subject: Re: IC7 Max 3 Cold boot problem solved [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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enjoy!
--
Thomas Geery
Network+ certified
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 130,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^
"Carlshead" <carlshead.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:C5IGc.18548$T72.104@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Hi Tom,
> Trust me, I have been lurking in this forum ever since I bough my first
Abit
> board (BH6). You have been helpful to many folks over the years. I even
> remember people semi-flaming you for having Network Certified in your
posts!
> Keep up the good work.
>
> As the boards and Soft Menu have gotten more complex some of the bios
> settings are bewildering even to the relatively experienced. I know for a
> fact that configuring SATA raid on the IC7Max3 for me was pure trial and
> error.
> Cheers,
> Carl
> "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:5XHGc.8173$pY2.4368@lakeread01...
> > well, there are some regulars in this group, myself and many others, who
> > save this kind of info and make it available to others that ask...
> >
> > --
> >
> > Thomas Geery
> > Network+ certified
> >
<font color=green> > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</font</a>>
> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
> > This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
> > over 130,000 FTP users served!
> > ^^^^^^^
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carlshead" <carlshead.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:R_GGc.18528$T72.9393@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > > Just moved them back to the on chip SATA & switched off disable
unused
> > PCI
> > > > clock, system working fine.
> > > >
> > > > Also tried the Maxtors with on chip SATA & disable unused...
enabled,
> > > worked
> > > > fine
> > > >
> > > > On my setup it's the combination of Raptor drives, on chip SATA &
> > disable
> > > > unused PCI clock switched on, remove any of these 3 & it works a
> treat.
> > > >
> > > > Andy.
> > > > System:
> > > > IC7 Max3 (BIOS 16)
> > > > P4C 3.2 Gig
> > > > 1024 MB Corsair PC4000
> > > > 2x 74 GB WD Raptor SATA - currently onchip raid
> > > > Pioneer 117 DVD
> > > > SB Audigy
> > > > Radeon 9800 XT, Hercules
> > > > Windows XP Pro, all updates
> > > >
> > > Hi Andy,
> > > Good thing Google Groups will keep this archived for others who hit
this
> > > snag. I worked on this problem off and on for three weeks and was
about
> > to
> > > RMA the board. The one thing I give Dell as a nice perk is their
> > community
> > > forum with moderators. I wonder how many false RMA's would be
prevented
> > if
> > > Abit and Asus had official forums?
> > > Cheers,
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:45 am
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It didn't work for me!!
Same problem. Won't boot after its shut down. .
Always defaults to SPD for bus (1:1) and memory timings (2.5-3-3-  !! My
memory will easily run cl2-2-2-6 up to 220Mhz (ZMS3500) at 2.8v.
I got my hands on my last CPU that ran in this system at 250fsb, 5:4 for
months and months! The only thing that is different is the BIOS and 2 250GB
WD SATA drives. I used BIOS 13 for ever, had to use 24 for the 250GB drives
and I can't go back, array won't recognize.
"fish" <fish.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote in message
news:MFwGc.47186$kz.9375328@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> NO!.
>
> I have an IC7 and for quite some time was overclocking a P4c 2.6 at 250 X
> 13. I decided to upgrade a bit. I swapped out my three 120GB IDE drives
for
> two 250GB SATA drives in RAID-1. I had to go from Bios 13 to 24 for the
> drive support.
> I also went from a P4c to a P4e 2.8 that I can't seem to overclock all
that
> well. 250 fsb is a no post and 240 (for 3.37Ghz) is stable but once the
> machine is turned 'off' it will NOT restart without turning the PSU off
and
> fighting with it for a while.
> Also, when it does finally boot, each and every time the memory buss will
> revert from '5:4' to 'SPD' which is 1:1 by default! And then the PC will
not
> boot at 240Mhz memory.
>
> Once its booted it'll run Prime and Folding and game for hours without a
> hiccup. Turn it off for the night and your doomed!
>
> I tried everything, I'll try this today.
>
>
> "Carlshead" <carlshead.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:K5oGc.18546$W6.3142@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > Hello,
> > The bios setting Disable Unused PCI Clock YES was the culprit!
> >
> > First system specs again:
> > IC7Max3, flashed to bios 16
> > 512 MB Geil PC 4000 ram
> > 37 GB WD Raptor SATA, raid controller
> > 80 GB WD PATA, IDE1
> > Lite-On DVD and Yamaha CD/RW on IDE2
> > SB 5.1
> > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Sapphire
> > Antec True 480 PS
> > Windows XP Pro, all updates
> >
> > This system would not cold boot without first interupting power (pull
> plug,
> > turn off computer power from surge protector, etc). Fans would spin, HD
> > whir, no beep or post.
> >
> > Went to a friends house today who has more computers than me, and
> especially
> > an IC7G plus one of those PCI card troubleshooters. PCI error check
shows
> > code F8, which we could not find a reference to in the literature or on
> the
> > web. Moved components around tried three different power supplies,
Nvidia
> > board GF3, Corsair 3200 versus my ram = same problem. System will
restart
> > just fine, but from a shutdown, it would not post without power
> interuption.
> > Reflashed bios with boot sector switch, no solution.
> >
> > Started playing with default bios settings that we have never changed.
> > SOLUTION: Disable Unused PCI Clock by default is YES. On my system,
> > turning this to NO fixed the problem. My buddies IC7G with two SATA
> drives,
> > Corsair ram, GF4Ti4200 works perfect with this setting at YES.
> >
> > Am I the only one in the world who has experienced this problem?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:50 pm
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Sorry Fish,
I don't run two SATA drives in RAID, just the one SATA drive using the RAID
controller for best performance. Maybe if you post a new thread with your
BIOS settings someone will see a solution?
Cheers,
Carl
"fish" <fish DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message
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> It didn't work for me!!
>
> Same problem. Won't boot after its shut down. .
>
> Always defaults to SPD for bus (1:1) and memory timings (2.5-3-3-!! My
> memory will easily run cl2-2-2-6 up to 220Mhz (ZMS3500) at 2.8v.
>
> I got my hands on my last CPU that ran in this system at 250fsb, 5:4 for
> months and months! The only thing that is different is the BIOS and 2
250GB
> WD SATA drives. I used BIOS 13 for ever, had to use 24 for the 250GB
drives
> and I can't go back, array won't recognize.
>
>
>
> "fish" <fish DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message
> news:MFwGc.47186$kz.9375328@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> > NO!.
> >
> > I have an IC7 and for quite some time was overclocking a P4c 2.6 at 250
X
> > 13. I decided to upgrade a bit. I swapped out my three 120GB IDE drives
> for
> > two 250GB SATA drives in RAID-1. I had to go from Bios 13 to 24 for the
> > drive support.
> > I also went from a P4c to a P4e 2.8 that I can't seem to overclock all
> that
> > well. 250 fsb is a no post and 240 (for 3.37Ghz) is stable but once the
> > machine is turned 'off' it will NOT restart without turning the PSU off
> and
> > fighting with it for a while.
> > Also, when it does finally boot, each and every time the memory buss
will
> > revert from '5:4' to 'SPD' which is 1:1 by default! And then the PC will
> not
> > boot at 240Mhz memory.
> >
> > Once its booted it'll run Prime and Folding and game for hours without a
> > hiccup. Turn it off for the night and your doomed!
> >
> > I tried everything, I'll try this today.
> >
> >
> > "Carlshead" <carlshead DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:K5oGc.18546$W6.3142@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > > Hello,
> > > The bios setting Disable Unused PCI Clock YES was the culprit!
> > >
> > > First system specs again:
> > > IC7Max3, flashed to bios 16
> > > 512 MB Geil PC 4000 ram
> > > 37 GB WD Raptor SATA, raid controller
> > > 80 GB WD PATA, IDE1
> > > Lite-On DVD and Yamaha CD/RW on IDE2
> > > SB 5.1
> > > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Sapphire
> > > Antec True 480 PS
> > > Windows XP Pro, all updates
> > >
> > > This system would not cold boot without first interupting power (pull
> > plug,
> > > turn off computer power from surge protector, etc). Fans would spin,
HD
> > > whir, no beep or post.
> > >
> > > Went to a friends house today who has more computers than me, and
> > especially
> > > an IC7G plus one of those PCI card troubleshooters. PCI error check
> shows
> > > code F8, which we could not find a reference to in the literature or
on
> > the
> > > web. Moved components around tried three different power supplies,
> Nvidia
> > > board GF3, Corsair 3200 versus my ram = same problem. System will
> restart
> > > just fine, but from a shutdown, it would not post without power
> > interuption.
> > > Reflashed bios with boot sector switch, no solution.
> > >
> > > Started playing with default bios settings that we have never changed.
> > > SOLUTION: Disable Unused PCI Clock by default is YES. On my system,
> > > turning this to NO fixed the problem. My buddies IC7G with two SATA
> > drives,
> > > Corsair ram, GF4Ti4200 works perfect with this setting at YES.
> > >
> > > Am I the only one in the world who has experienced this problem?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:55 pm
Post subject: Re: IC7 Max 3 Cold boot problem solved [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:59:01 -0400, "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM- DeleteThis @cox.net>
wrote:
>I run with the setting at yes as well...
>
And Abit's documentation explains what this PCI clock is
intended to do ? Might help if Abit's documentation on all
BIOS settings was complete with functional explanations.
It is fairly obvious that Abit employs technically incompetent
documentation writers with near-zero communication
with either the MB designers or the BIOS developers.
This situatiion has persisted since at least the BH6 era.
For example, my original IC7-G manual has Highpoint
references in the so-called troubleshooting section....
John Lewis
>--
>
>Thomas Geery
>Network+ certified
>
>ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
>ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
>This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
>over 130,000 FTP users served!
> ^^^^^^^
>
>
>
>
>"Carlshead" <carlshead DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:K5oGc.18546$W6.3142@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>> Hello,
>> The bios setting Disable Unused PCI Clock YES was the culprit!
>>
>> First system specs again:
>> IC7Max3, flashed to bios 16
>> 512 MB Geil PC 4000 ram
>> 37 GB WD Raptor SATA, raid controller
>> 80 GB WD PATA, IDE1
>> Lite-On DVD and Yamaha CD/RW on IDE2
>> SB 5.1
>> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Sapphire
>> Antec True 480 PS
>> Windows XP Pro, all updates
>>
>> This system would not cold boot without first interupting power (pull
>plug,
>> turn off computer power from surge protector, etc). Fans would spin, HD
>> whir, no beep or post.
>>
>> Went to a friends house today who has more computers than me, and
>especially
>> an IC7G plus one of those PCI card troubleshooters. PCI error check shows
>> code F8, which we could not find a reference to in the literature or on
>the
>> web. Moved components around tried three different power supplies, Nvidia
>> board GF3, Corsair 3200 versus my ram = same problem. System will restart
>> just fine, but from a shutdown, it would not post without power
>interuption.
>> Reflashed bios with boot sector switch, no solution.
>>
>> Started playing with default bios settings that we have never changed.
>> SOLUTION: Disable Unused PCI Clock by default is YES. On my system,
>> turning this to NO fixed the problem. My buddies IC7G with two SATA
>drives,
>> Corsair ram, GF4Ti4200 works perfect with this setting at YES.
>>
>> Am I the only one in the world who has experienced this problem?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carl
>>
>>
>>
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:55 pm
Post subject: Re: IC7 Max 3 Cold boot problem solved [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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yeah, no argument that the manual could use some improvement... however, by
the same token, Abit manuals are a dictionary compared to manuals for some
mobo's I have built out in the past...
--
Thomas Geery
Network+ certified
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 130,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^
"John Lewis" <john.dsl.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:40ed8848.11947594@news.verizon.net...
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:59:01 -0400, "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-.RemoveThis@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I run with the setting at yes as well...
> >
>
> And Abit's documentation explains what this PCI clock is
> intended to do ? Might help if Abit's documentation on all
> BIOS settings was complete with functional explanations.
>
> It is fairly obvious that Abit employs technically incompetent
> documentation writers with near-zero communication
> with either the MB designers or the BIOS developers.
>
> This situatiion has persisted since at least the BH6 era.
> For example, my original IC7-G manual has Highpoint
> references in the so-called troubleshooting section....
>
> John Lewis
>
> >--
> >
> >Thomas Geery
> >Network+ certified
> >
> >ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
> >ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
> >This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
> >over 130,000 FTP users served!
> > ^^^^^^^
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Carlshead" <carlshead.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:K5oGc.18546$W6.3142@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> >> Hello,
> >> The bios setting Disable Unused PCI Clock YES was the culprit!
> >>
> >> First system specs again:
> >> IC7Max3, flashed to bios 16
> >> 512 MB Geil PC 4000 ram
> >> 37 GB WD Raptor SATA, raid controller
> >> 80 GB WD PATA, IDE1
> >> Lite-On DVD and Yamaha CD/RW on IDE2
> >> SB 5.1
> >> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Sapphire
> >> Antec True 480 PS
> >> Windows XP Pro, all updates
> >>
> >> This system would not cold boot without first interupting power (pull
> >plug,
> >> turn off computer power from surge protector, etc). Fans would spin,
HD
> >> whir, no beep or post.
> >>
> >> Went to a friends house today who has more computers than me, and
> >especially
> >> an IC7G plus one of those PCI card troubleshooters. PCI error check
shows
> >> code F8, which we could not find a reference to in the literature or on
> >the
> >> web. Moved components around tried three different power supplies,
Nvidia
> >> board GF3, Corsair 3200 versus my ram = same problem. System will
restart
> >> just fine, but from a shutdown, it would not post without power
> >interuption.
> >> Reflashed bios with boot sector switch, no solution.
> >>
> >> Started playing with default bios settings that we have never changed.
> >> SOLUTION: Disable Unused PCI Clock by default is YES. On my system,
> >> turning this to NO fixed the problem. My buddies IC7G with two SATA
> >drives,
> >> Corsair ram, GF4Ti4200 works perfect with this setting at YES.
> >>
> >> Am I the only one in the world who has experienced this problem?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Carl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:53 am
Post subject: Re: IC7 Max 3 Cold boot problem solved [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:48:52 -0400, "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM- DeleteThis @cox.net>
wrote:
>yeah, no argument that the manual could use some improvement... however, by
>the same token, Abit manuals are a dictionary compared to manuals for some
>mobo's I have built out in the past...
>
So what.............comparing one bad apple with anothert
does not make the bad apple any better.
No excuse for a company that errr.. prides itself in catering to
enthusiasts --- the very people who need good technical
explanations when optimizing their systems. Working with
the present documentation is analogous to trying to fly a
plane without any instruments.
With your long support of Abit, have you not cultivated
personal contacts within the company with whom you can
communicate systematic problems ---such as the poor
documentation -- and actually get something done about
it ??
John Lewis
>
>Thomas Geery
>Network+ certified
>
>ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
>ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
>This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
>over 130,000 FTP users served!
> ^^^^^^^
>
>
>
>
>"John Lewis" <john.dsl DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:40ed8848.11947594@news.verizon.net...
>> On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:59:01 -0400, "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM- DeleteThis @cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I run with the setting at yes as well...
>> >
>>
>> And Abit's documentation explains what this PCI clock is
>> intended to do ? Might help if Abit's documentation on all
>> BIOS settings was complete with functional explanations.
>>
>> It is fairly obvious that Abit employs technically incompetent
>> documentation writers with near-zero communication
>> with either the MB designers or the BIOS developers.
>>
>> This situatiion has persisted since at least the BH6 era.
>> For example, my original IC7-G manual has Highpoint
>> references in the so-called troubleshooting section....
>>
>> John Lewis
>>
>> >--
>> >
>> >Thomas Geery
>> >Network+ certified
>> >
>> >ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
>> >ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
>> >This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
>> >over 130,000 FTP users served!
>> > ^^^^^^^
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Carlshead" <carlshead DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:K5oGc.18546$W6.3142@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>> >> Hello,
>> >> The bios setting Disable Unused PCI Clock YES was the culprit!
>> >>
>> >> First system specs again:
>> >> IC7Max3, flashed to bios 16
>> >> 512 MB Geil PC 4000 ram
>> >> 37 GB WD Raptor SATA, raid controller
>> >> 80 GB WD PATA, IDE1
>> >> Lite-On DVD and Yamaha CD/RW on IDE2
>> >> SB 5.1
>> >> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Sapphire
>> >> Antec True 480 PS
>> >> Windows XP Pro, all updates
>> >>
>> >> This system would not cold boot without first interupting power (pull
>> >plug,
>> >> turn off computer power from surge protector, etc). Fans would spin,
>HD
>> >> whir, no beep or post.
>> >>
>> >> Went to a friends house today who has more computers than me, and
>> >especially
>> >> an IC7G plus one of those PCI card troubleshooters. PCI error check
>shows
>> >> code F8, which we could not find a reference to in the literature or on
>> >the
>> >> web. Moved components around tried three different power supplies,
>Nvidia
>> >> board GF3, Corsair 3200 versus my ram = same problem. System will
>restart
>> >> just fine, but from a shutdown, it would not post without power
>> >interuption.
>> >> Reflashed bios with boot sector switch, no solution.
>> >>
>> >> Started playing with default bios settings that we have never changed.
>> >> SOLUTION: Disable Unused PCI Clock by default is YES. On my system,
>> >> turning this to NO fixed the problem. My buddies IC7G with two SATA
>> >drives,
>> >> Corsair ram, GF4Ti4200 works perfect with this setting at YES.
>> >>
>> >> Am I the only one in the world who has experienced this problem?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Carl
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:53 am
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well, I had a decent contact with Alex but she left...
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Network+ certified
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://geerynet.d2g.com" target="_blank">ftp://geerynet.d2g.com</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://68.98.180.8" target="_blank">ftp://68.98.180.8</a> Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
over 130,000 FTP users served!
^^^^^^^
"John Lewis" <john.dsl.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:40edbe70.116898@news.verizon.net...
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:48:52 -0400, "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-.TakeThisOut@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >yeah, no argument that the manual could use some improvement... however,
by
> >the same token, Abit manuals are a dictionary compared to manuals for
some
> >mobo's I have built out in the past...
> >
> So what.............comparing one bad apple with anothert
> does not make the bad apple any better.
>
> No excuse for a company that errr.. prides itself in catering to
> enthusiasts --- the very people who need good technical
> explanations when optimizing their systems. Working with
> the present documentation is analogous to trying to fly a
> plane without any instruments.
>
> With your long support of Abit, have you not cultivated
> personal contacts within the company with whom you can
> communicate systematic problems ---such as the poor
> documentation -- and actually get something done about
> it ??
>
>
> John Lewis
>
> >
> >Thomas Geery
> >Network+ certified
> >
> >ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
> >ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
> >This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
> >over 130,000 FTP users served!
> > ^^^^^^^
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"John Lewis" <john.dsl.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >news:40ed8848.11947594@news.verizon.net...
> >> On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:59:01 -0400, "TomG" <tgeery-NOSPAM-.TakeThisOut@cox.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I run with the setting at yes as well...
> >> >
> >>
> >> And Abit's documentation explains what this PCI clock is
> >> intended to do ? Might help if Abit's documentation on all
> >> BIOS settings was complete with functional explanations.
> >>
> >> It is fairly obvious that Abit employs technically incompetent
> >> documentation writers with near-zero communication
> >> with either the MB designers or the BIOS developers.
> >>
> >> This situatiion has persisted since at least the BH6 era.
> >> For example, my original IC7-G manual has Highpoint
> >> references in the so-called troubleshooting section....
> >>
> >> John Lewis
> >>
> >> >--
> >> >
> >> >Thomas Geery
> >> >Network+ certified
> >> >
> >> >ftp://geerynet.d2g.com
> >> >ftp://68.98.180.8 Abit Mirror <----- Cable modem IP
> >> >This IP is dynamic so it *could* change!...
> >> >over 130,000 FTP users served!
> >> > ^^^^^^^
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Carlshead" <carlshead.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:K5oGc.18546$W6.3142@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >> The bios setting Disable Unused PCI Clock YES was the culprit!
> >> >>
> >> >> First system specs again:
> >> >> IC7Max3, flashed to bios 16
> >> >> 512 MB Geil PC 4000 ram
> >> >> 37 GB WD Raptor SATA, raid controller
> >> >> 80 GB WD PATA, IDE1
> >> >> Lite-On DVD and Yamaha CD/RW on IDE2
> >> >> SB 5.1
> >> >> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Sapphire
> >> >> Antec True 480 PS
> >> >> Windows XP Pro, all updates
> >> >>
> >> >> This system would not cold boot without first interupting power
(pull
> >> >plug,
> >> >> turn off computer power from surge protector, etc). Fans would
spin,
> >HD
> >> >> whir, no beep or post.
> >> >>
> >> >> Went to a friends house today who has more computers than me, and
> >> >especially
> >> >> an IC7G plus one of those PCI card troubleshooters. PCI error check
> >shows
> >> >> code F8, which we could not find a reference to in the literature or
on
> >> >the
> >> >> web. Moved components around tried three different power supplies,
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