Installing G400-TV on XP

I'm confused. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm</a>
shows 'none planned -- display support available with OS' under Win XP for
drivers for the
Marvel G400-TV. I don't see the revisions you speak of listed in the
drivers section for the Marvel G400-TV. Are you using Matrox drivers
designed for use with another Matrox card?

--Don
don{at}donlindbergh{dot}com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan" <redwood.marketing.DeleteThis@rogers.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.matrox
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Installing G400-TV on XP


 > Run the Matrox program that deletes all video drivers. Then setup your
 > display as Standard VGA.
 > Insert the most recent "tested drivers" not the latest and greatest, this
 > should work. If not repeat and insert the next older until it works.
 >
 > Matrox has drivers that are XP and W2000 compatible. I am using 572 on a
 > G400 with a home theatre setup, and 586 with W2000 on another computer
that
 > is also capable of playing movies. I also came across drivers that made
 > similar stupid statements, I can't remember which ones they were, but
avoid
 > them.
 >
 > Hope this helps,
 >
 > Alan
 >
 >
 > "ericsan" <test.DeleteThis@test.net> wrote in message
 > news:hc4djvsusctgej03pmh7br5ljskqdc1g21@4ax.com...
  > > I forget how to install my old tired G400-TV PCI in XP. I've used it
  > > before, and need it now for a backup card until my new one arrives.
  > >
  > > I downloaded the G450-TV drivers, and the G400 drivers. Both give me
  > > an error 10 - cannot start.
  > >
  > > When i run the setup, it says there is no qualified card - or
  > > something. Can select the G400 at the start of the install.
  > >
  > > I remember some program to get around this problem, but can't find it
  > > now.
  > >
  > > All i have now is 4-color VGA- yuck!!
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Installing G400-TV on XP 

Don:
I didn't specifically look for G450-TV drivers, as my cards are G400Max and
G450Max. The site where I found the drivers is,
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/certified/home.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/certified/home.cfm</a> There I see a
driver for XP and W2000 5.86.032 for my cards, both operating systems are
using the same driver.

They also have a previous drivers area.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/previous/prv_drv.cfm#Win2kXP" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/previous/prv_drv.cfm#Win2kXP</a>
There you will find many drivers that should work,

Hope this helps,

Alan





"Don Lindbergh" <nobody.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:j0b_a.37$uO5.60851@news.ind.net...
<font color=purple> > I'm confused. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm</font" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm</font</a>>
 > shows 'none planned -- display support available with OS' under Win XP for
 > drivers for the
 > Marvel G400-TV. I don't see the revisions you speak of listed in the
 > drivers section for the Marvel G400-TV. Are you using Matrox drivers
 > designed for use with another Matrox card?
 >
 > --Don
 > don{at}donlindbergh{dot}com
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Alan" <redwood.marketing.TakeThisOut@rogers.com>
 > Newsgroups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.matrox
 > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:19 PM
 > Subject: Re: Installing G400-TV on XP
 >
 >
  > > Run the Matrox program that deletes all video drivers. Then setup your
  > > display as Standard VGA.
  > > Insert the most recent "tested drivers" not the latest and greatest,
this
  > > should work. If not repeat and insert the next older until it works.
  > >
  > > Matrox has drivers that are XP and W2000 compatible. I am using 572 on
a
  > > G400 with a home theatre setup, and 586 with W2000 on another computer
 > that
  > > is also capable of playing movies. I also came across drivers that made
  > > similar stupid statements, I can't remember which ones they were, but
 > avoid
  > > them.
  > >
  > > Hope this helps,
  > >
  > > Alan
  > >
  > >
  > > "ericsan" <test.TakeThisOut@test.net> wrote in message
  > > news:hc4djvsusctgej03pmh7br5ljskqdc1g21@4ax.com...
   > > > I forget how to install my old tired G400-TV PCI in XP. I've used it
   > > > before, and need it now for a backup card until my new one arrives.
   > > >
   > > > I downloaded the G450-TV drivers, and the G400 drivers. Both give me
   > > > an error 10 - cannot start.
   > > >
   > > > When i run the setup, it says there is no qualified card - or
   > > > something. Can select the G400 at the start of the install.
   > > >
   > > > I remember some program to get around this problem, but can't find it
   > > > now.
   > > >
   > > > All i have now is 4-color VGA- yuck!!
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Installing G400-TV on XP 

There's the rub ... it's the older **TV** cards (G400 TV and G200) that are
un-supported.

Plain old video usage did not cause Matrox any undue problems when porting
to 2000/XP.

But the video capture and (particularly) the MJPEG hardware was the problem.
I'm told that the chip vendor discontinued support for the SDK ... Win98 was
the end of the line. When Matrox tried to roll their own SDK for 2000, they
apparently failed, or found the effort too great. So no support for that.

So, your nice G400 TV card functions like any $5 video card ... okay, the
computer video out is better quality than a $5 video card. But you no longer
have the functionality that you paid extra for.

However, there's a third party (a company?, a corporation?, a lone hacker? I
don't know) who has suitable drivers. They're at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://adis.szm.com" target="_blank">http://adis.szm.com</a>

In a private correspondence, one user ( g.prestage.TakeThisOut@unsw.edu.au ) told me
that he has been successful with it.

"Alan" <redwood.marketing.TakeThisOut@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:Zqc_a.168557$hOa.157594@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
 > Don:
 > I didn't specifically look for G450-TV drivers, as my cards are G400Max
and
 > G450Max. The site where I found the drivers is,
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/certified/home.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/certified/home.cfm</a> There I see
a
 > driver for XP and W2000 5.86.032 for my cards, both operating systems are
 > using the same driver.
 >
 > They also have a previous drivers area.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/previous/prv_drv.cfm#Win2kXP</font" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/previous/prv_drv.cfm#Win2kXP</font</a>>
 > There you will find many drivers that should work,
 >
 > Hope this helps,
 >
 > Alan
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > "Don Lindbergh" <nobody.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
 > news:j0b_a.37$uO5.60851@news.ind.net...
<font color=green>  > > I'm confused. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm</font" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm</font</a>>
  > > shows 'none planned -- display support available with OS' under Win XP
for
  > > drivers for the
  > > Marvel G400-TV. I don't see the revisions you speak of listed in the
  > > drivers section for the Marvel G400-TV. Are you using Matrox drivers
  > > designed for use with another Matrox card?
  > >
  > > --Don
  > > don{at}donlindbergh{dot}com
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Alan" <redwood.marketing.TakeThisOut@rogers.com>
  > > Newsgroups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.matrox
  > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:19 PM
  > > Subject: Re: Installing G400-TV on XP
  > >
  > >
   > > > Run the Matrox program that deletes all video drivers. Then setup
your
   > > > display as Standard VGA.
   > > > Insert the most recent "tested drivers" not the latest and greatest,
 > this
   > > > should work. If not repeat and insert the next older until it works.
   > > >
   > > > Matrox has drivers that are XP and W2000 compatible. I am using 572
on
 > a
   > > > G400 with a home theatre setup, and 586 with W2000 on another computer
  > > that
   > > > is also capable of playing movies. I also came across drivers that
made
   > > > similar stupid statements, I can't remember which ones they were, but
  > > avoid
   > > > them.
   > > >
   > > > Hope this helps,
   > > >
   > > > Alan
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > "ericsan" <test.TakeThisOut@test.net> wrote in message
   > > > news:hc4djvsusctgej03pmh7br5ljskqdc1g21@4ax.com...
   > > > > I forget how to install my old tired G400-TV PCI in XP. I've used it
   > > > > before, and need it now for a backup card until my new one arrives.
   > > > >
   > > > > I downloaded the G450-TV drivers, and the G400 drivers. Both give me
   > > > > an error 10 - cannot start.
   > > > >
   > > > > When i run the setup, it says there is no qualified card - or
   > > > > something. Can select the G400 at the start of the install.
   > > > >
   > > > > I remember some program to get around this problem, but can't find
it
   > > > > now.
   > > > >
   > > > > All i have now is 4-color VGA- yuck!!
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Installing G400-TV on XP 

Matrox make good cards, not good public relations. I frequently read where
people are pissed at their policies.

Alan


"Mojo" <lmoneNOSPAM DeleteThis @NOSPAMparis.com> wrote in message
news:jrc_a.8467$Ea.7806@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com...
 > There's the rub ... it's the older **TV** cards (G400 TV and G200) that
are
 > un-supported.
 >
 > Plain old video usage did not cause Matrox any undue problems when porting
 > to 2000/XP.
 >
 > But the video capture and (particularly) the MJPEG hardware was the
problem.
 > I'm told that the chip vendor discontinued support for the SDK ... Win98
was
 > the end of the line. When Matrox tried to roll their own SDK for 2000,
they
 > apparently failed, or found the effort too great. So no support for that.
 >
 > So, your nice G400 TV card functions like any $5 video card ... okay, the
 > computer video out is better quality than a $5 video card. But you no
longer
 > have the functionality that you paid extra for.
 >
 > However, there's a third party (a company?, a corporation?, a lone hacker?
I
<font color=purple> > don't know) who has suitable drivers. They're at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://adis.szm.com</font" target="_blank">http://adis.szm.com</font</a>>
 >
 > In a private correspondence, one user ( g.prestage DeleteThis @unsw.edu.au ) told me
 > that he has been successful with it.
 >
 > "Alan" <redwood.marketing DeleteThis @rogers.com> wrote in message
 > news:Zqc_a.168557$hOa.157594@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
  > > Don:
  > > I didn't specifically look for G450-TV drivers, as my cards are G400Max
 > and
  > > G450Max. The site where I found the drivers is,
  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/certified/home.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/certified/home.cfm</a> There I
see
 > a
  > > driver for XP and W2000 5.86.032 for my cards, both operating systems
are
  > > using the same driver.
  > >
  > > They also have a previous drivers area.
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/previous/prv_drv.cfm#Win2kXP</font" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/previous/prv_drv.cfm#Win2kXP</font</a>>
  > > There you will find many drivers that should work,
  > >
  > > Hope this helps,
  > >
  > > Alan
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > "Don Lindbergh" <nobody DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
  > > news:j0b_a.37$uO5.60851@news.ind.net...
   > > > I'm confused.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm</a>
   > > > shows 'none planned -- display support available with OS' under Win XP
 > for
   > > > drivers for the
   > > > Marvel G400-TV. I don't see the revisions you speak of listed in the
   > > > drivers section for the Marvel G400-TV. Are you using Matrox drivers
   > > > designed for use with another Matrox card?
   > > >
   > > > --Don
   > > > don{at}donlindbergh{dot}com
   > > >
   > > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > > From: "Alan" <redwood.marketing DeleteThis @rogers.com>
   > > > Newsgroups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.matrox
   > > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:19 PM
   > > > Subject: Re: Installing G400-TV on XP
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > > Run the Matrox program that deletes all video drivers. Then setup
 > your
   > > > > display as Standard VGA.
   > > > > Insert the most recent "tested drivers" not the latest and greatest,
  > > this
   > > > > should work. If not repeat and insert the next older until it
works.
   > > > >
   > > > > Matrox has drivers that are XP and W2000 compatible. I am using 572
 > on
  > > a
   > > > > G400 with a home theatre setup, and 586 with W2000 on another
computer
   > > > that
   > > > > is also capable of playing movies. I also came across drivers that
 > made
   > > > > similar stupid statements, I can't remember which ones they were,
but
   > > > avoid
   > > > > them.
   > > > >
   > > > > Hope this helps,
   > > > >
   > > > > Alan
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > > "ericsan" <test DeleteThis @test.net> wrote in message
   > > > > news:hc4djvsusctgej03pmh7br5ljskqdc1g21@4ax.com...
   > > > > > I forget how to install my old tired G400-TV PCI in XP. I've used
it
   > > > > > before, and need it now for a backup card until my new one
arrives.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > I downloaded the G450-TV drivers, and the G400 drivers. Both give
me
   > > > > > an error 10 - cannot start.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > When i run the setup, it says there is no qualified card - or
   > > > > > something. Can select the G400 at the start of the install.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > I remember some program to get around this problem, but can't find
 > it
   > > > > > now.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > All i have now is 4-color VGA- yuck!!
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Installing G400-TV on XP 

Ah, I was confused by the subject line then. I thought you were talking
about the G400-TV card......

--Don

==
"Alan" <redwood.marketing.RemoveThis@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:Zqc_a.168557$hOa.157594@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
 > Don:
 > I didn't specifically look for G450-TV drivers, as my cards are G400Max
and
 > G450Max. The site where I found the drivers is,
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/certified/home.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/certified/home.cfm</a> There I see
a
 > driver for XP and W2000 5.86.032 for my cards, both operating systems are
 > using the same driver.
 >
 > They also have a previous drivers area.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/previous/prv_drv.cfm#Win2kXP</font" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/previous/prv_drv.cfm#Win2kXP</font</a>>
 > There you will find many drivers that should work,
 >
 > Hope this helps,
 >
 > Alan
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > "Don Lindbergh" <nobody.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
 > news:j0b_a.37$uO5.60851@news.ind.net...
<font color=green>  > > I'm confused. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm</font" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm</font</a>>
  > > shows 'none planned -- display support available with OS' under Win XP
for
  > > drivers for the
  > > Marvel G400-TV. I don't see the revisions you speak of listed in the
  > > drivers section for the Marvel G400-TV. Are you using Matrox drivers
  > > designed for use with another Matrox card?
  > >
  > > --Don
  > > don{at}donlindbergh{dot}com
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Alan" <redwood.marketing.RemoveThis@rogers.com>
  > > Newsgroups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.matrox
  > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:19 PM
  > > Subject: Re: Installing G400-TV on XP
  > >
  > >
   > > > Run the Matrox program that deletes all video drivers. Then setup
your
   > > > display as Standard VGA.
   > > > Insert the most recent "tested drivers" not the latest and greatest,
 > this
   > > > should work. If not repeat and insert the next older until it works.
   > > >
   > > > Matrox has drivers that are XP and W2000 compatible. I am using 572
on
 > a
   > > > G400 with a home theatre setup, and 586 with W2000 on another computer
  > > that
   > > > is also capable of playing movies. I also came across drivers that
made
   > > > similar stupid statements, I can't remember which ones they were, but
  > > avoid
   > > > them.
   > > >
   > > > Hope this helps,
   > > >
   > > > Alan
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > "ericsan" <test.RemoveThis@test.net> wrote in message
   > > > news:hc4djvsusctgej03pmh7br5ljskqdc1g21@4ax.com...
   > > > > I forget how to install my old tired G400-TV PCI in XP. I've used it
   > > > > before, and need it now for a backup card until my new one arrives.
   > > > >
   > > > > I downloaded the G450-TV drivers, and the G400 drivers. Both give me
   > > > > an error 10 - cannot start.
   > > > >
   > > > > When i run the setup, it says there is no qualified card - or
   > > > > something. Can select the G400 at the start of the install.
   > > > >
   > > > > I remember some program to get around this problem, but can't find
it
   > > > > now.
   > > > >
   > > > > All i have now is 4-color VGA- yuck!!
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Installing G400-TV on XP 

Thanks for the URL (http://adis.szm.com). I was getting a little
pissed off when I realized that switching to XP (which I had to do
because of other hardware) disabled the features I've come to
appreciate about my G400-tv.

Unfortunately I'm only halfway there. The downloads haven't quite
negotiated XP. I keep getting a lack of video memory error when I try
to run PC-VCR. But it's nice to think that there's some hope. Any
other suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:02:32 -0400, "Mojo"
<lmoneNOSPAM.RemoveThis@NOSPAMparis.com> wrote:

 >There's the rub ... it's the older **TV** cards (G400 TV and G200) that are
 >un-supported.
 >
 >Plain old video usage did not cause Matrox any undue problems when porting
 >to 2000/XP.
 >
 >But the video capture and (particularly) the MJPEG hardware was the problem.
 >I'm told that the chip vendor discontinued support for the SDK ... Win98 was
 >the end of the line. When Matrox tried to roll their own SDK for 2000, they
 >apparently failed, or found the effort too great. So no support for that.
 >
 >So, your nice G400 TV card functions like any $5 video card ... okay, the
 >computer video out is better quality than a $5 video card. But you no longer
 >have the functionality that you paid extra for.
 >
 >However, there's a third party (a company?, a corporation?, a lone hacker? I
<font color=purple> >don't know) who has suitable drivers. They're at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://adis.szm.com</font" target="_blank">http://adis.szm.com</font</a>>
 >
 >In a private correspondence, one user ( g.prestage.RemoveThis@unsw.edu.au ) told me
 >that he has been successful with it.
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Installing G400-TV on XP