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Ant

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:32 pm
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Hi.

I have a few years old Pentium 4 machine, but I don't know if it can do
64-bit. Is there a way to check without installing and running the
installed OS? Can I use a LiveCD (which one?), look in BIOS/CMOS
(didn't see anything to mention it), etc.?

Thank you in advance. Smile
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:13 pm
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"Ant" <ANTant.DeleteThis@zimage.com> wrote in message
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> Hi.
>
> I have a few years old Pentium 4 machine, but I don't know if it can do
> 64-bit. Is there a way to check without installing and running the
> installed OS? Can I use a LiveCD (which one?), look in BIOS/CMOS
> (didn't see anything to mention it), etc.?
>
> Thank you in advance. Smile
> --
> "I've been on some fairways that are as good as the greens we putted on
> back then. We had crab grass. I remember one green where I putted
> through ants." --Sam Snead
> /\___/\
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Go to www.cpuid.com and download CPU-Z, latest version 1.44.
When you run it check 'Instructions' on the CPU tab. If EM64T
is listed, it's a 64 bit CPU.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:35 pm
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On 3/13/2008 6:13 PM PT, Ian D typed:

> "Ant" <ANTant RemoveThis @zimage.com> wrote in message
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>> Hi.
>>
>> I have a few years old Pentium 4 machine, but I don't know if it can do
>> 64-bit. Is there a way to check without installing and running the
>> installed OS? Can I use a LiveCD (which one?), look in BIOS/CMOS
>> (didn't see anything to mention it), etc.?
>>
>> Thank you in advance. Smile
>
> Go to www.cpuid.com and download CPU-Z, latest version 1.44.
> When you run it check 'Instructions' on the CPU tab. If EM64T
> is listed, it's a 64 bit CPU.

Um, I would have to install Windows to use it. I said "Is there a way to
check without installing and running the installed OS?"
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:59 am
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"Ant" <ANTant.RemoveThis@zimage.com> wrote in message
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> On 3/13/2008 6:13 PM PT, Ian D typed:
>
>> "Ant" <ANTant.RemoveThis@zimage.com> wrote in message
>> news:-MidnasHy4PWHETanZ2dnUVZ_v-hnZ2d@mminternet.net...
>>> Hi.
>>>
> Um, I would have to install Windows to use it. I said "Is there a way to
> check without installing and running the installed OS?"

You can start here if you know the exact model of your CPU:

http://compare.intel.com/pcc/default.aspx?familyID=1&culture=en-US

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:59 am
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On 3/13/2008 10:59 PM PT, Tom Lake typed:

>> Um, I would have to install Windows to use it. I said "Is there a way
>> to check without installing and running the installed OS?"
>
> You can start here if you know the exact model of your CPU:
>
> http://compare.intel.com/pcc/default.aspx?familyID=1&culture=en-US

I have no idea which model it is though.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:35 am
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:32:27 -0500 ANTant.RemoveThis@zimage.com (Ant) wrote in
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>Hi.
>
>I have a few years old Pentium 4 machine, but I don't know if it can do
>64-bit. Is there a way to check without installing and running the
>installed OS? Can I use a LiveCD (which one?), look in BIOS/CMOS
>(didn't see anything to mention it), etc.?
>
>Thank you in advance. Smile

There is a five digit code on top of the chip that begins with SL. What is
the code on yours?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:35 am
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On 3/14/2008 2:35 AM PT, Trent typed:

>> I have a few years old Pentium 4 machine, but I don't know if it can do
>> 64-bit. Is there a way to check without installing and running the
>> installed OS? Can I use a LiveCD (which one?), look in BIOS/CMOS
>> (didn't see anything to mention it), etc.?
>>
>> Thank you in advance. Smile
>
> There is a five digit code on top of the chip that begins with SL. What is
> the code on yours?

Oh, I forgot to say without opening up the case earlier. Smile I guess that
would work. Do I just Google that serial number/code to get the answer?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:25 am
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 03:07:00 -0700 Ant <ANTant.DeleteThis@zimage.com> wrote in
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>On 3/14/2008 2:35 AM PT, Trent typed:
>
>>> I have a few years old Pentium 4 machine, but I don't know if it can do
>>> 64-bit. Is there a way to check without installing and running the
>>> installed OS? Can I use a LiveCD (which one?), look in BIOS/CMOS
>>> (didn't see anything to mention it), etc.?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. Smile
>>
>> There is a five digit code on top of the chip that begins with SL. What is
>> the code on yours?
>
>Oh, I forgot to say without opening up the case earlier. Smile I guess that
>would work. Do I just Google that serial number/code to get the answer?

http://processorfinder.intel.com/Default.aspx

Place your SL code in the sSpec search box. This should get you to what
you're looking for.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:07 pm
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Ant wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I have a few years old Pentium 4 machine, but I don't know if it can do
> 64-bit. Is there a way to check without installing and running the
> installed OS? Can I use a LiveCD (which one?), look in BIOS/CMOS
> (didn't see anything to mention it), etc.?
>
> Thank you in advance. Smile

You can always download one of the 32-bit Linux live-cd's, such as
Ubuntu. Once you boot up into the cd, then all you would have to do is
run the command "more /proc/cpuinfo" at a command prompt. It should show
as one of its flags that either EM64T or AMD64 or x86-64 or x64 or
something like that is supported. I would assume it's most likely going
to be called x86-64 under Linux.

Yousuf Khan
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:57 pm
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems Trent <none.DeleteThis@dev.null.pissoff> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 03:07:00 -0700 Ant <ANTant.DeleteThis@zimage.com> wrote in
> Message id: <47da4e45$0$17326$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>:

> >On 3/14/2008 2:35 AM PT, Trent typed:
> >
> >>> I have a few years old Pentium 4 machine, but I don't know if it can do
> >>> 64-bit. Is there a way to check without installing and running the
> >>> installed OS? Can I use a LiveCD (which one?), look in BIOS/CMOS
> >>> (didn't see anything to mention it), etc.?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you in advance. Smile
> >>
> >> There is a five digit code on top of the chip that begins with SL. What is
> >> the code on yours?
> >
> >Oh, I forgot to say without opening up the case earlier. Smile I guess that
> >would work. Do I just Google that serial number/code to get the answer?

> http://processorfinder.intel.com/Default.aspx

> Place your SL code in the sSpec search box. This should get you to what
> you're looking for.

Thanks!
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:57 pm
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> > I have a few years old Pentium 4 machine, but I don't know if it can do
> > 64-bit. Is there a way to check without installing and running the
> > installed OS? Can I use a LiveCD (which one?), look in BIOS/CMOS
> > (didn't see anything to mention it), etc.?
> >
> > Thank you in advance. Smile

> You can always download one of the 32-bit Linux live-cd's, such as
> Ubuntu. Once you boot up into the cd, then all you would have to do is
> run the command "more /proc/cpuinfo" at a command prompt. It should show
> as one of its flags that either EM64T or AMD64 or x86-64 or x64 or
> something like that is supported. I would assume it's most likely going
> to be called x86-64 under Linux.

Thanks, that will work for my scenario. I just didn't want to tamper
with installation and the HDD. Smile
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:05 pm
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In article <47da0eb2$0$12553$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
Ant <ANTant.TakeThisOut@zimage.com> wrote:
>On 3/13/2008 6:13 PM PT, Ian D typed:
>> "Ant" <ANTant.TakeThisOut@zimage.com> wrote in message
>> news:-MidnasHy4PWHETanZ2dnUVZ_v-hnZ2d@mminternet.net...
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I have a few years old Pentium 4 machine, but I don't know if it can do
>>> 64-bit. Is there a way to check without installing and running the
>>> installed OS? Can I use a LiveCD (which one?), look in BIOS/CMOS
>>> (didn't see anything to mention it), etc.?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. Smile
>>
>> Go to www.cpuid.com and download CPU-Z, latest version 1.44.
>> When you run it check 'Instructions' on the CPU tab. If EM64T
>> is listed, it's a 64 bit CPU.
>
>Um, I would have to install Windows to use it. I said "Is there a way to
>check without installing and running the installed OS?"

Boot up your favorite Linux live CD, log in, and type this:

cat /proc/cpuinfo

The "flags" line will list everything that your processor supports.

A simpler go/no-go test would be to make sure it's an AMD64 live CD instead
of an x86 live CD...either it'll boot or it won't.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:07 pm
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Tell us specifically which version/model of P4 CPU you have and we'll tell
you if it is 64 bit.

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> Hi.
>
> I have a few years old Pentium 4 machine, but I don't know if it can do
> 64-bit. Is there a way to check without installing and running the
> installed OS? Can I use a LiveCD (which one?), look in BIOS/CMOS
> (didn't see anything to mention it), etc.?
>
> Thank you in advance. Smile
> --
> "I've been on some fairways that are as good as the greens we putted on
> back then. We had crab grass. I remember one green where I putted
> through ants." --Sam Snead
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:41 pm
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Ant wrote:

> On 3/13/2008 10:59 PM PT, Tom Lake typed:
>
>>> Um, I would have to install Windows to use it. I said "Is there a way
>>> to check without installing and running the installed OS?"
>>
>> You can start here if you know the exact model of your CPU:
>>
>> http://compare.intel.com/pcc/default.aspx?familyID=1&culture=en-US
>
> I have no idea which model it is though.

You could try 'dmesg' or 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' in a terminal window
(aka command prompt, aka xterm).

Caveat: They rely your kernel recognising the CPU correctly - that
will depend on how up to date it is (considering that your OP
header listed FC3, 2.6.11 as your platform).
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:56 pm
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On 3/14/2008 4:07 PM PT, DaveW typed:

> Tell us specifically which version/model of P4 CPU you have and we'll tell
> you if it is 64 bit.

I forgot to mention that I do not want to open the computer case. So I
don't know which P4 it is.
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