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larrymoencurly

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:58 pm
Post subject: K7S5A Pro -- no alarm settings possible in BIOS?
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I just got a K7S5A Pro v. 5.0 and noticed that there's no way to
specify alarm temperatures and fan RPMs in its BIOS (I have ver.
1/23/2003). Does that mean I have to rely upon a Windows-based alarm
program, like MBM, for such protection, or does the BIOS automatically
provide CPU thermal protection? I'd really like something that will
automatically slow down the CPU or shut down the computer if it
overheats.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:52 am
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On 7 Aug 2003 12:58:25 -0700, In this world we created
larrymoencurly.RemoveThis@my-deja.com (larrymoencurly) wrote :

 >I just got a K7S5A Pro v. 5.0 and noticed that there's no way to
 >specify alarm temperatures and fan RPMs in its BIOS (I have ver.
 >1/23/2003). Does that mean I have to rely upon a Windows-based alarm
 >program, like MBM, for such protection, or does the BIOS automatically
 >provide CPU thermal protection? I'd really like something that will
 >automatically slow down the CPU or shut down the computer if it
 >overheats.

If you have built the system correctly you will never have the need
for alarms?
And by the time you hear an alarm then surely you should have built
the system correctly?



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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:52 am
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"Shepİ" <shep DeleteThis @gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
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| On 7 Aug 2003 12:58:25 -0700, In this world we created
| larrymoencurly DeleteThis @my-deja.com (larrymoencurly) wrote :
|
| >I just got a K7S5A Pro v. 5.0 and noticed that there's no way to
| >specify alarm temperatures and fan RPMs in its BIOS (I have ver.
| >1/23/2003). Does that mean I have to rely upon a Windows-based
alarm
| >program, like MBM, for such protection, or does the BIOS
automatically
| >provide CPU thermal protection? I'd really like something that
will
| >automatically slow down the CPU or shut down the computer if it
| >overheats.
|
| If you have built the system correctly you will never have the need
| for alarms?
| And by the time you hear an alarm then surely you should have built
| the system correctly?
|
|

Please consider HS-fan failures as a likely source of such a problem.
I've seen several fans fail over the years. Further, if the PS fan
fails, one can also experience an overheating condition within the
case. Given the noisy character of the newer power supplies, one can
never audibly detect if the CPU fan has died. It would be nice if the
BIOS did some sort of shutdown or cpu slowdown, and many BIOSs do
include this feature, but alas, the k7s5a BIOS does not include this
feature.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:52 am
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Shepİ <shep DeleteThis @gmx.co.uk> wrote in message news:<kep5jvonr6bi35id37p7h5rdus2haofas5 DeleteThis @4ax.com>...

  > >I just got a K7S5A Pro v. 5.0 and noticed that there's no way to
  > >specify alarm temperatures and fan RPMs in its BIOS (I have ver.
  > >1/23/2003). I'd really like something that will automatically
  > >slow down the CPU or shut down the computer if it overheats.

 > If you have built the system correctly you will never have the need
 > for alarms?

Even if the CPU fan fails? This is a retail boxed AMD CPU, so using a
passive heatsink will void the warranty, and even the best fans can
fail.

 >And by the time you hear an alarm then surely you should have
 >built the system correctly?

That's why I want protection that automatically slows the CPU or shuts
off the power, so the protection will be there, even when I'm not.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:35 pm
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On 7 Aug 2003 23:36:37 -0700, In this world we created
larrymoencurly.RemoveThis@my-deja.com (larrymoencurly) wrote :

 >Shepİ <shep.RemoveThis@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message news:<kep5jvonr6bi35id37p7h5rdus2haofas5.RemoveThis@4ax.com>...
 >
   >> >I just got a K7S5A Pro v. 5.0 and noticed that there's no way to
   >> >specify alarm temperatures and fan RPMs in its BIOS (I have ver.
   >> >1/23/2003). I'd really like something that will automatically
   >> >slow down the CPU or shut down the computer if it overheats.
 >
  >> If you have built the system correctly you will never have the need
  >> for alarms?
 >
 >Even if the CPU fan fails? This is a retail boxed AMD CPU, so using a
 >passive heatsink will void the warranty, and even the best fans can
 >fail.
 >
  >>And by the time you hear an alarm then surely you should have
  >>built the system correctly?
 >
 >That's why I want protection that automatically slows the CPU or shuts
 >off the power, so the protection will be there, even when I'm not.

I can understand that but unfortunately the AMD CPUs don't have this
:/



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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 7:12 pm
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"Kyle Brant" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:

 > Given the noisy character of the newer power supplies, one can
 >never audibly detect if the CPU fan has died


Actually, I can hear it. But that's because I've bought a quiet Zalman
Power Supply.

Agreed on the noise of a generic power supply...

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:03 pm
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Shepİ <shep.RemoveThis@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message news:<q9r7jvcflvka67ahgu0iq7c5e6cjepkd9m.RemoveThis@4ax.com>...

 > If you have built the system correctly you will never have the need
 > for alarms?
 >
  >>Even if the CPU fan fails? This is a retail boxed AMD CPU, so
  >>using a passive heatsink will void the warranty,

 >And by the time you hear an alarm then surely you should have
 >built the system correctly?

  >>That's why I want protection that automatically slows the CPU or
shuts
  >>off the power, so the protection will be there, even when I'm not.
 >
 >I can understand that but unfortunately the AMD CPUs don't have this
:/

So are you saying that it's not possible to build an AMD system
properly with a mobo like the K7S5A, which doesn't include thermal
shutdown in its BIOS? Again, I don't want to rely on software that
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 2:09 pm
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"larrymoencurly" <larrymoencurly.RemoveThis@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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| Shepİ <shep.RemoveThis@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<q9r7jvcflvka67ahgu0iq7c5e6cjepkd9m.RemoveThis@4ax.com>...
|
| > If you have built the system correctly you will never have the
need
| > for alarms?
| >
| >>Even if the CPU fan fails? This is a retail boxed AMD CPU, so
| >>using a passive heatsink will void the warranty,
|
| >And by the time you hear an alarm then surely you should have
| >built the system correctly?
|
| >>That's why I want protection that automatically slows the CPU or
| shuts
| >>off the power, so the protection will be there, even when I'm not.
| >
| >I can understand that but unfortunately the AMD CPUs don't have
this
| :/
|
| So are you saying that it's not possible to build an AMD system
| properly with a mobo like the K7S5A, which doesn't include thermal
| shutdown in its BIOS? Again, I don't want to rely on software that
| runs on unreliable Windows for this protection.


Not meaning to be smart here, but perhaps Linux is your answer if
Windows is so unreliable.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:17 pm
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On 10 Aug 2003 09:03:54 -0700, In this world we created
larrymoencurly DeleteThis @my-deja.com (larrymoencurly) wrote :

 >Shepİ <shep DeleteThis @gmx.co.uk> wrote in message news:<q9r7jvcflvka67ahgu0iq7c5e6cjepkd9m DeleteThis @4ax.com>...
 >
  >> If you have built the system correctly you will never have the need
  >> for alarms?
  >>
   >>>Even if the CPU fan fails? This is a retail boxed AMD CPU, so
   >>>using a passive heatsink will void the warranty,
 >
  >>And by the time you hear an alarm then surely you should have
  >>built the system correctly?
 >
   >>>That's why I want protection that automatically slows the CPU or
 >shuts
   >>>off the power, so the protection will be there, even when I'm not.
  >>
  >>I can understand that but unfortunately the AMD CPUs don't have this
 >:/
 >
 >So are you saying that it's not possible to build an AMD system
 >properly with a mobo like the K7S5A, which doesn't include thermal
 >shutdown in its BIOS? Again, I don't want to rely on software that
 >runs on unreliable Windows for this protection.

I'm sure it's possible but is it worth it?
I've been running PCs and windows for years and never burnt a CPU and
by the time the problem may have arisen I've upgraded anyway :/




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