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RankTyro

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:23 pm
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Hi,

I have just built my first system using KN1 SLI MoBo. Have a mystery
I'm trying to have explained to me in terms a beginner can
understand:

I carefully tested each of my 4 modules of RAM (1 GB each), and also
tested the sockets individually. As individual components and sockets,
each tested perfectly. When I sequentially began to install each
module, and rebooted after each install, the Properties window for
"My Computer" correctly reported that first I had 1 GB of
recognized RAM, the 2 GB, and so on.

However, when I added the 4th module, instead of going from 3 GB to 4
GB, it went from 3 to 3.37.

Can someone explain why only a fraction of the 4th module was
recognized by the system, no matter which sockets were used or in what
order to sequentially add the modules?

Thanks in advance.

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Eric Wolfe

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:28 pm
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"RankTyro" <latchamba-amazon.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have just built my first system using KN1 SLI MoBo. Have a mystery
> I'm trying to have explained to me in terms a beginner can
> understand:
>
> I carefully tested each of my 4 modules of RAM (1 GB each), and also
> tested the sockets individually. As individual components and sockets,
> each tested perfectly. When I sequentially began to install each
> module, and rebooted after each install, the Properties window for
> "My Computer" correctly reported that first I had 1 GB of
> recognized RAM, the 2 GB, and so on.
>
> However, when I added the 4th module, instead of going from 3 GB to 4
> GB, it went from 3 to 3.37.
>
> Can someone explain why only a fraction of the 4th module was
> recognized by the system, no matter which sockets were used or in what
> order to sequentially add the modules?

That's quite typical for many PC's. Here's one explanation I found at
Google:

Posted by: UncleMacro

3.3GB is not that unusual. I've seen people with less. Address space is
allocated for all kinds of things including PCI devices so you can't get
access to your full RAM unless you're running a 64 bit operating system and
the BIOS has the appropriate options to move the RAM which is in the 3 to 4
gig address range to appear above 4 gig. I've seen BIOS updates increase the
amount of space available from time to time. If I'm looking at the correct
motherboard manual then you have integrated AGP video. Assuming that you're
not currently using it, you should make sure that the UMA frame buffer size
in the BIOS is set to the smallest possible value. The AGP aperture also
takes up address space even when not being used so set the AGP aperture to
none.

HTH

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Eric

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:15 am
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Thanks!

Forgive my ignorance, but which processors supprt the 64 bit OS?

I have an AMD Athlon 64 4000+ (San Diego). BIOS: Phoenix Technologies,
LTD 6.00 PG, 7/8/2005.

Would my setup accept windows 64 bit, and if so, would the processor
speed be dragged by the demands of a heftier OS? Or would the opposite
happen --- would I see a speed boost from an OS that can take advantage
of the 64 bit architecture?

Analogous questions: would the 64bit OS have trouble handling my apps
(say, for instance Photoshop CS1, and others), even if they weren't
designed for the 64 bit architecture? Regardless of whether this is a
problem, would upgrading to a 64bit OS automatically take care of the 3
to 4 GB recognition issue? Or would further BIOS and other
modifications be necessary?

Again, MANY thanks for your helpfult comments.

D
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:38 am
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"RankTyro" <latchamba-amazon.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks!
>
> Forgive my ignorance, but which processors supprt the 64 bit OS?
>
> I have an AMD Athlon 64 4000+ (San Diego). BIOS: Phoenix Technologies,
> LTD 6.00 PG, 7/8/2005.
>
> Would my setup accept windows 64 bit, and if so, would the processor
> speed be dragged by the demands of a heftier OS? Or would the opposite
> happen --- would I see a speed boost from an OS that can take advantage
> of the 64 bit architecture?
>
> Analogous questions: would the 64bit OS have trouble handling my apps
> (say, for instance Photoshop CS1, and others), even if they weren't
> designed for the 64 bit architecture? Regardless of whether this is a
> problem, would upgrading to a 64bit OS automatically take care of the 3
> to 4 GB recognition issue? Or would further BIOS and other
> modifications be necessary?
>
> Again, MANY thanks for your helpfult comments.
>
> D

The big advantage of a 64 bit OS is doubling the amount of data a CPU can
process per clock cycle. A 64-bit chip has the power to dramatically
improve the performance of audio and video encoding, complex engineering
programs like CAD, and to really boost the performance of games. And in the
long term, 64-bit computing will give programmers much more power as
desktops come closer and closer each day to what used to be the exclusive
realm of the mainframe.

The 64-bit CPUs can handle more memory and larger files because of the
larger a address space, which means it lets you address more memory. That's
the limit you're hitting now. Today's 32-bit Intel and AMD chips can
address up to 4GB of memory. In Windows-based machines, that 4GB is split
between the operating system and the applications. That means the most
memory any given application can access is 2GB.

That limit is becoming a problem--particularly in video-editing applications
and the like. A 64-bit processor can address up to 16 exabytes of memory
(that's over 16 billion gigabytes).

The Athlon 64 processor supports, IIRC, up to one terabyte of physical
memory and up to 256 terabytes of virtual memory.

While apps like Photoshop are usually among the first to upgrade to a new
platform, I think it's still going to be a while before that sort of stuff
trickles down *affordably* to me and you.

As for compatibility, IIRC, AMD and Intel took different approaches with AMD
running 32 bit apps natively and the Intel requiring a software emulation.
But it's been a long time since I've looked into the CPU race - much might
have changed.

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Eric
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