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Since: May 17, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 5:51 pm
Post subject: KT7A and newest video cards
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Hello all.
I own a KT7A motherboard (bios version WZ, the original one) together with a
32 MB GF2MX Siluro video card from Abit.
Now the time to upgrade my video card is approaching and I wonder if the
KT7A will support a more powerful video card, like a Nvidia FX5200 Gpu based
one.
Or, in case you guys think it will not work (different voltages?) how far do
you suppose my motherboard can go?
Can anyone help?
Tia,
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Since: Mar 29, 2004
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 5:51 pm
Post subject: Re: KT7A and newest video cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Stefano Ferrante" <sorryIhate RemoveThis @spam.it> wrote in message
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> Hello all.
>
> I own a KT7A motherboard (bios version WZ, the original one) together with
a
> 32 MB GF2MX Siluro video card from Abit.
> Now the time to upgrade my video card is approaching and I wonder if the
> KT7A will support a more powerful video card, like a Nvidia FX5200 Gpu
based
> one.
>
> Or, in case you guys think it will not work (different voltages?) how far
do
> you suppose my motherboard can go?
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Tia,
> Stefano
>
>
Some of these boards have no trouble running newer graphics cards. Some
have major issues ( mine falls into this category ). The earlier revisions
( 1.0 , 1.2 ) seem to be the most difficult (The version number is found on
the barcode sticker on the topside of the motherboard at the bottom LHS left
of the ISA slot). The stumbling block is a poor power feed to the AGP slot.
In my case, it required increasing the I/O voltage in the BIOS from the
normal 3.3v to a dangerous 3.7v, increasing the drive strength (again, a
BIOS option), underclocking the card slightly, and modifying the latency
values with Powerstrip, using Omega drivers, installing the unofficial
latency patch, and sacrificing virgins to the Abit gods. My advice would be
to borrow a card of the type you are interested in buying and try it out
first. I tried a FX5200 in mine and couldn't even boot. I scaled back to a
MX440 and finally managed to get everything working fairly well. I have not
tried ATI boards ( except a 7200 PCI ), but I suspect the issues are the
same.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 6:27 pm
Post subject: Re: KT7A and newest video cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I have no problems running a 5950 card in my 1.0, however it also has
its own power connector, so perhaps that's why.
Also bear in mind compatibility with older boards can also vary from
brand to brand. If you borrow a 5200 card from, say, Chaintech, and
it works fine, so you think 'ok a 5200 will work fine', then go find a
cheaper Asus 5200, it may not work. I've heard this is especially
true for ATI cards.
> Some of these boards have no trouble running newer graphics cards. Some
>have major issues ( mine falls into this category ). The earlier revisions
>( 1.0 , 1.2 ) seem to be the most difficult (The version number is found on
>the barcode sticker on the topside of the motherboard at the bottom LHS left
>of the ISA slot). The stumbling block is a poor power feed to the AGP slot.
>In my case, it required increasing the I/O voltage in the BIOS from the
>normal 3.3v to a dangerous 3.7v, increasing the drive strength (again, a
>BIOS option), underclocking the card slightly, and modifying the latency
>values with Powerstrip, using Omega drivers, installing the unofficial
>latency patch, and sacrificing virgins to the Abit gods. My advice would be
>to borrow a card of the type you are interested in buying and try it out
>first. I tried a FX5200 in mine and couldn't even boot. I scaled back to a
>MX440 and finally managed to get everything working fairly well. I have not
>tried ATI boards ( except a 7200 PCI ), but I suspect the issues are the
>same.
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Since: Mar 29, 2004
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 7:12 pm
Post subject: Re: KT7A and newest video cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"GlassVial" <glassvial.TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have no problems running a 5950 card in my 1.0, however it also has
> its own power connector, so perhaps that's why.
>
> Also bear in mind compatibility with older boards can also vary from
> brand to brand. If you borrow a 5200 card from, say, Chaintech, and
> it works fine, so you think 'ok a 5200 will work fine', then go find a
> cheaper Asus 5200, it may not work. I've heard this is especially
> true for ATI cards.
>
> > Some of these boards have no trouble running newer graphics cards. Some
> >have major issues ( mine falls into this category ). The earlier
revisions
> >( 1.0 , 1.2 ) seem to be the most difficult (The version number is found
on
> >the barcode sticker on the topside of the motherboard at the bottom LHS
left
> >of the ISA slot). The stumbling block is a poor power feed to the AGP
slot.
> >In my case, it required increasing the I/O voltage in the BIOS from the
> >normal 3.3v to a dangerous 3.7v, increasing the drive strength (again, a
> >BIOS option), underclocking the card slightly, and modifying the latency
> >values with Powerstrip, using Omega drivers, installing the unofficial
> >latency patch, and sacrificing virgins to the Abit gods. My advice would
be
> >to borrow a card of the type you are interested in buying and try it out
> >first. I tried a FX5200 in mine and couldn't even boot. I scaled back to
a
> >MX440 and finally managed to get everything working fairly well. I have
not
> >tried ATI boards ( except a 7200 PCI ), but I suspect the issues are the
> >same.
>
> -GV
>
True, all models are not the same (for the record, the 5200 & mx440 i've
tried are PNY's). And that is a rather interesting point about using a vid
card with the molex power feed. Maybe a FX5200 ultra would have it, but I
don't think any of the regular 5200's would. Assuming of course that Stefano
wants to stay in that price & model range. I'm tempted to find one now
myself ...<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: KT7A and newest video cards |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 8:47 pm
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 14:51:09 +0200, Stefano Ferrante wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> I own a KT7A motherboard (bios version WZ, the original one) together with a
> 32 MB GF2MX Siluro video card from Abit.
> Now the time to upgrade my video card is approaching and I wonder if the
> KT7A will support a more powerful video card, like a Nvidia FX5200 Gpu based
> one.
>
> Or, in case you guys think it will not work (different voltages?) how far do
> you suppose my motherboard can go?
>
You need to upgrade your bios before you try upgrading the video card. And
just going to a non MX card (64bit) would help tremendously. My 3d speed
went up 5 times when I went from a TNT M64 to a GF2 GTS. I don't need a
lot of 3d speed.
--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm" target="_blank">http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: KT7A and newest video cards |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 12:25 am
Post subject: Re: KT7A and newest video cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hey, I'm using Kt7A- v1.1, bios is A9 (latest). I've successfully run a
Gf2-GTS, Kyro2, Hercules 8500LE in past.
Non of these cards had any molex connections, yet they ran fine on my cheapo
q-tec 280W psu.
Currently running Powercolor Radeon 9600SE very stable on same board,
altough with 365W Enermax psu. 9600Se also uses power from agp slot, not
molex.
I'm overclocking the heck out of this card, from 325/400 original up to
380/460 while running games.
Using Radlinker, i've set the card to boot at 150/150, so it's cool while in
2d. I've made profiles for games where card goes to 380/460. Also using a
*big* heatsink from an old celeron, without any fan to make noise, it's very
very stable.
On a side note, that 5200 is not what you might except. Better go for 9600SE
if budget is very limited. Otherwise consider a Fx5500 (faster than 5200,
slower than 5600) or Ati radeon9600. Both are equal priced, and go nice with
this board.
"Stefano Ferrante" <sorryIhate.DeleteThis@spam.it> wrote in message
news:c8acfh$2q8t$1@newsreader2.mclink.it...
> Hello all.
>
> I own a KT7A motherboard (bios version WZ, the original one) together with
a
> 32 MB GF2MX Siluro video card from Abit.
> Now the time to upgrade my video card is approaching and I wonder if the
> KT7A will support a more powerful video card, like a Nvidia FX5200 Gpu
based
> one.
>
> Or, in case you guys think it will not work (different voltages?) how far
do
> you suppose my motherboard can go?
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Tia,
> Stefano
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 6:50 pm
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"Stefano Ferrante" <sorryIhate DeleteThis @spam.it> wrote in message
news:c8acfh$2q8t$1@newsreader2.mclink.it...
> Hello all.
>
> I own a KT7A motherboard (bios version WZ, the original one) together with
a
> 32 MB GF2MX Siluro video card from Abit.
> Now the time to upgrade my video card is approaching and I wonder if the
> KT7A will support a more powerful video card, like a Nvidia FX5200 Gpu
based
> one.
>
> Or, in case you guys think it will not work (different voltages?) how far
do
> you suppose my motherboard can go?
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Tia,
> Stefano
>
I was running the same board for years with an early beta BIOS and a Radeon
8500. I tried to go to a Radeon 9800 Pro with no luck. Big time no POST.
Tried with A9 BIOS, same results. Tried a bigger PSU with same results.
Ended up going to a KV8 and Athlon 64 3200...
But I saw a lot of posts from people that had no trouble running new cards
with the same board.
It's a crapshoot, buy at your own risk.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: KT7A and newest video cards |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 2:05 am
Post subject: Re: KT7A and newest video cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Hey, I'm using Kt7A- v1.1, bios is A9 (latest). I've successfully run a
> Gf2-GTS, Kyro2, Hercules 8500LE in past.
>
> Non of these cards had any molex connections, yet they ran fine on my
cheapo
> q-tec 280W psu.
>
> Currently running Powercolor Radeon 9600SE very stable on same board,
> altough with 365W Enermax psu. 9600Se also uses power from agp slot, not
> molex.
>
> I'm overclocking the heck out of this card, from 325/400 original up to
> 380/460 while running games.
> Using Radlinker, i've set the card to boot at 150/150, so it's cool while
in
> 2d. I've made profiles for games where card goes to 380/460. Also using a
> *big* heatsink from an old celeron, without any fan to make noise, it's
very
> very stable.
>
> On a side note, that 5200 is not what you might except. Better go for
9600SE
> if budget is very limited. Otherwise consider a Fx5500 (faster than 5200,
> slower than 5600) or Ati radeon9600. Both are equal priced, and go nice
with
> this board.
>
Well, thanks for your help.
One more question: my reseller says it will not work because of a different
voltage required by the newest video cards (a lower one) but your experience
appears to prove the contrary...have you had any trouble with it?
Stefano<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: KT7A and newest video cards |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 10:38 am
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Well.. if you think about agp8x cards, yes, they will work, but on agp4x
speed max.
There was a little problem with the 8500LE card. I was getting bsod while
playing any 3d app. But that was the card itself.
I have never had such problem as no-post, beeping or other problems with
card not starting, like many others. So i can't say it is a bad mobo in any
way.
"Stefano Ferrante" <sorryIhate.RemoveThis@spam.it> wrote in message
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>
> "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:o5aqc.82878$BD3.10209924@juliett.dax.net...
> > Hey, I'm using Kt7A- v1.1, bios is A9 (latest). I've successfully run a
> > Gf2-GTS, Kyro2, Hercules 8500LE in past.
> >
> > Non of these cards had any molex connections, yet they ran fine on my
> cheapo
> > q-tec 280W psu.
> >
> > Currently running Powercolor Radeon 9600SE very stable on same board,
> > altough with 365W Enermax psu. 9600Se also uses power from agp slot, not
> > molex.
> >
> > I'm overclocking the heck out of this card, from 325/400 original up to
> > 380/460 while running games.
> > Using Radlinker, i've set the card to boot at 150/150, so it's cool
while
> in
> > 2d. I've made profiles for games where card goes to 380/460. Also using
a
> > *big* heatsink from an old celeron, without any fan to make noise, it's
> very
> > very stable.
> >
> > On a side note, that 5200 is not what you might except. Better go for
> 9600SE
> > if budget is very limited. Otherwise consider a Fx5500 (faster than
5200,
> > slower than 5600) or Ati radeon9600. Both are equal priced, and go nice
> with
> > this board.
> >
> Well, thanks for your help.
> One more question: my reseller says it will not work because of a
different
> voltage required by the newest video cards (a lower one) but your
experience
> appears to prove the contrary...have you had any trouble with it?
>
> Stefano
>
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