Microsoft confirms Win XP64 will be OEM only

Evgenij Barsukov <e-barsoukov2_hate_spam.TakeThisOut@ti.com> wrote:
 > Yousuf Khan wrote:
  >>
  >> No retail boxes.
  >>
  >> Yousuf Khan
  >>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16919</font" target="_blank">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16919</font</a>>
 >
 > I guess they dont wont to hear anybody complain about
 > absence of the drivers for their arbitrary systems, not
 > to mention upgrading the old once. OEMs will probably declare
 > they system config before they get the OS.

That's possible but they're saying you can get an OEM version of Win64 just
by buying some kind of cable.

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"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67.DeleteThis@ezrs.com> wrote in message
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 > That's possible but they're saying you can get an OEM version of Win64
just
 > by buying some kind of cable.
 >
 > Yousuf Khan
 >
 >

Yeah, go do a google search for OEM Office 2003, or OEM Windows XP. You'll
find them out there, and usually you have to at least buy an IDE cable to
get it ( because it must be purchased with "hardware" ). I think all they're
doing is encouraging people to pirate Win64 even more than if it was
available at the local Staples.

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Note also that MS is also saying the OEM version
is XP Pro, and not XP Home.

  >> I guess they dont wont to hear anybody complain about
  >> absence of the drivers for their arbitrary systems, not
  >> to mention upgrading the old once.

MS is being reasonably clever here. Few existing
AMD64 systems have 64-bit drivers for all the
components in the system. And the do-it-yourself
crowd won't be tying up MS support phone lines,
as OEM Windows probably includes no direct MS
support responsibility.

 > That's possible but they're saying you can
 > get an OEM version of Win64 just
 > by buying some kind of cable.

That's been the case all along, but is a surprising
admission. Normally MS wants individual end users
to think they have to buy the retail products.

Unresolved issues remain:

1. Price. Is this OEM-Pro product priced like the
existing XP32 Pro, or like the version sold for
Itanium workstations? (And we don't know what
the latter is, since it apparently is not sold
separately.)

2. Licensing. Is XP64 an unlimited license, or is
it timed-bombed (subscription). Is access to
WindowsUpdate time-bombed? Any other IP
surprises?

3. Will retail and upgrade XP64 products eventually
be released? If so, will the generic OEM
products remain available? Or will MS force the
OEM path to WHQL-only RecoveryMedia-only?

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The clever part from MS side is not having to do tech support for it.

"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67.DeleteThis@ezrs.com> wrote in message
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 > Evgenij Barsukov <e-barsoukov2_hate_spam.DeleteThis@ti.com> wrote:
  > > Yousuf Khan wrote:
   > >>
   > >> No retail boxes.
   > >>
   > >> Yousuf Khan
   > >>
<font color=brown>   > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16919</font" target="_blank">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16919</font</a>>
  > >
  > > I guess they dont wont to hear anybody complain about
  > > absence of the drivers for their arbitrary systems, not
  > > to mention upgrading the old once. OEMs will probably declare
  > > they system config before they get the OS.
 >
 > That's possible but they're saying you can get an OEM version of Win64
just
 > by buying some kind of cable.
 >
 > Yousuf Khan
 >
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Alexander Grigoriev <alegr.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:
 > The clever part from MS side is not having to do tech support for it.

That seems to be case anyways whether you're buying OEM or retail.

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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:28:21 GMT, "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67 RemoveThis @ezrs.com> wrote:

 >Evgenij Barsukov <e-barsoukov2_hate_spam RemoveThis @ti.com> wrote:
  >> Yousuf Khan wrote:
   >>>
   >>> No retail boxes.
   >>>
   >>> Yousuf Khan
   >>>
<font color=brown>   >>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16919</font" target="_blank">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16919</font</a>>
  >>
  >> I guess they dont wont to hear anybody complain about
  >> absence of the drivers for their arbitrary systems, not
  >> to mention upgrading the old once. OEMs will probably declare
  >> they system config before they get the OS.
 >
 >That's possible but they're saying you can get an OEM version of Win64 just
 >by buying some kind of cable.

The cable is the thing that satisfies "must be purchased with hardware".
At one time, NewEgg was showing a power cable Y-adapter as err, suitable
and was "included" in the price of say Windows XPPro-OEM.

Rgds, George Macdonald

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George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:
 >On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:28:21 GMT, "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67.TakeThisOut@ezrs.com> wrote:
  >>That's possible but they're saying you can get an OEM version of Win64 just
  >>by buying some kind of cable.
 >
 >The cable is the thing that satisfies "must be purchased with hardware".
 >At one time, NewEgg was showing a power cable Y-adapter as err, suitable
 >and was "included" in the price of say Windows XPPro-OEM.

I wanted to buy an OEM copy of WinXP at Fry's a while back for a computer we
already had. They said nearly anything in the computer-hardware part of the
store would qualify the purchase, so I bought a couple of power splitters
for $3 or so. Even a bag of screws would've qualified (but I have plenty of
those left over from building computers).

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Scott Alfter <salfter.DeleteThis@salfter.diespammersdie.dyndns.org> said
 >In article <2snbe0lieaaj1b3aar81j92eqruojdr1eo.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
 >George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:
  >>On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:28:21 GMT, "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67.DeleteThis@ezrs.com> wrote:
   >>>That's possible but they're saying you can get an OEM version of Win64 just
   >>>by buying some kind of cable.
  >>
  >>The cable is the thing that satisfies "must be purchased with hardware".
  >>At one time, NewEgg was showing a power cable Y-adapter as err, suitable
  >>and was "included" in the price of say Windows XPPro-OEM.
 >
 >I wanted to buy an OEM copy of WinXP at Fry's a while back for a computer we
 >already had. They said nearly anything in the computer-hardware part of the
 >store would qualify the purchase, so I bought a couple of power splitters
 >for $3 or so. Even a bag of screws would've qualified (but I have plenty of
 >those left over from building computers).

Don't forget that the OEM version is 'forever wedded to' the hardware it
came with .. so I hope you're moving the power splitters along with the
licenses. 8>.

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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 22:35:17 GMT, salfter RemoveThis @salfter.diespammersdie.dyndns.org
(Scott Alfter) wrote:

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 >In article <2snbe0lieaaj1b3aar81j92eqruojdr1eo RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
 >George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:
  >>On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:28:21 GMT, "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67 RemoveThis @ezrs.com> wrote:
   >>>That's possible but they're saying you can get an OEM version of Win64 just
   >>>by buying some kind of cable.
  >>
  >>The cable is the thing that satisfies "must be purchased with hardware".
  >>At one time, NewEgg was showing a power cable Y-adapter as err, suitable
  >>and was "included" in the price of say Windows XPPro-OEM.
 >
 >I wanted to buy an OEM copy of WinXP at Fry's a while back for a computer we
 >already had. They said nearly anything in the computer-hardware part of the
 >store would qualify the purchase, so I bought a couple of power splitters
 >for $3 or so. Even a bag of screws would've qualified (but I have plenty of
 >those left over from building computers).

Well I just took a look at NewEgg last night and it seems that things are
changing - M$ putting their foot down?? A while back I was able to buy an
Office 2003 Prof OEM 3-pack along with system components I was buying but
it's no longer available. In fact, even the single user OEM version now
has "must be purchased with a laptop" as the qualification; MWAVE has "must
be purchased w/PC or notebook". Even WinXP 3-packs are no longer available
though the single pack still only specifies "must be purchased with
hardware". Somebody is squeezing us.... M$ or Dell?<shrug>

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salfter RemoveThis @salfter.diespammersdie.dyndns.org (Scott Alfter) wrote:

 >I wanted to buy an OEM copy of WinXP at Fry's a while back for a computer we
 >already had. They said nearly anything in the computer-hardware part of the
 >store would qualify the purchase, so I bought a couple of power splitters
 >for $3 or so. Even a bag of screws would've qualified (but I have plenty of
 >those left over from building computers).

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"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67.RemoveThis@ezrs.com> wrote :

 > No retail boxes.

No Intel compatibility
mahahahaha thats funny
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/06/HNwindowsnocona_1.html" target="_blank">http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/06/HNwindowsnocona_1.html</a>

What a surprise ? Intel breaking compatybility for the sake of being
the big guy who gets M$ delay XP64bit crap.


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RusH <logistyka1 DeleteThis @pf.pl> wrote:
 > No Intel compatibility
 > mahahahaha thats funny
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/06/HNwindowsnocona_1.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/06/HNwindowsnocona_1.html</font</a>>
 >
 > What a surprise ? Intel breaking compatybility for the sake of being
 > the big guy who gets M$ delay XP64bit crap.

Apparently some "special" companies have access to the latest beta of the
XP64 which does implement Intel compatibility.

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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:02:51 +0000 (UTC), RusH <logistyka1 RemoveThis @pf.pl> wrote:

 >"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67 RemoveThis @ezrs.com> wrote :
 >
  >> No retail boxes.
 >
 >No Intel compatibility
 >mahahahaha thats funny
 >http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/06/HNwindowsnocona_1.html
 >
 >What a surprise ? Intel breaking compatybility for the sake of being
 >the big guy who gets M$ delay XP64bit crap.

The iBoot-licking by "analysts" here is err, truly revolting... and then
there are customers who have been waiting for the Intel hardware. I wonder
how they explain that to their bosses.

I sure hope the XP-64 bounce-buffering is capable of being turned off,
either at install or boot-time, where it's not required... on AMD64. I'm
wondering if there are any 3rd party chipset mfrs who have a license to the
P4 FSB who might do the PCI Bus Mastering DMA right?? Didn't SiS get a
license a while back?

Rgds, George Macdonald

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