Modem connection speed

Your computer's distance from the local telephone switch determines what the
speed of your connection is. If you live next door to the switch office
you'll get the 55k. If you live 10 miles away, you may only get 24k. The
level of line noise that the telephone company allows on its lines also
affects the transmission speed.

--
DaveW



"Neil Barnwell" wrote in message

 > On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get ~38k
when
 > we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered calling
 > the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also been
 > told that this wouldn't make any difference.
 >
 > Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers in our
 > house, so does anyone have any ideas?
 >
 > Cheers for your help.
 >
 > <Barney />
 >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

In article ,
says...
 > On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get ~38k when
 > we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered calling
 > the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also been
 > told that this wouldn't make any difference.
 >
 > Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers in our
 > house, so does anyone have any ideas?
 >
 > Cheers for your help.
 >
 > <Barney />
 >
 >
 >
 >


My max connect is 28.8 with a 56k modem.

It's all down to what speed the telco wants you to connect.

Cheap telco (sbc...) + muxxed line = twice the number of customers
without upgrading equipment.

bastards.
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

56k = 56k max if you're lucky. I've never been about 44k when forced to use
dial up (usually when fixing virus infected laptops in work).


"Art Leonard" wrote in message

 > Line quality might be the limiting factor. See if you can get the line
 > provider and the isp provider to check it for you.
 >
 > Art Leonard
 >
 > Neil Barnwell wrote:
 >
  >> On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get ~38k
  >> when
  >> we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered calling
  >> the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also been
  >> told that this wouldn't make any difference.
  >>
  >> Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers in
  >> our
  >> house, so does anyone have any ideas?
  >>
  >> Cheers for your help.
  >>
  >> <Barney />
  >>
  >>
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

"Neil Barnwell" wrote in message

 > On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get ~38k
when
 > we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered calling
 > the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also been
 > told that this wouldn't make any difference.
 >
 > Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers in our
 > house, so does anyone have any ideas?
 >
 > Cheers for your help.
 >
You need to pretty careful when talking about modem speeds,
if you use a stop bit then there are 9 bits to the byte, so to speak.

So...56/9 ~= 6 (6X9=54) so 6X8=48 which is the max I get on tests
and mine uses one stop bit.



 > <Barney />
 >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

 >Date: 07/02/2004 2:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time

 >
 >


  >> On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get ~38k
 >when
  >> we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered calling
  >> the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also been
  >> told that this wouldn't make any difference.
  >>
  >> Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers in our
  >> house, so does anyone have any ideas?
  >>
  >> Cheers for your help.
  >>
 >You need to pretty careful when talking about modem speeds,
 >if you use a stop bit then there are 9 bits to the byte, so to speak.
 >
 >So...56/9 ~= 6 (6X9=54) so 6X8=48 which is the max I get on tests
 >and mine uses one stop bit.
 >
 >

Ummm...56k is 56k BITS/sec, not bytes, so your math is somewhat irrelevant.
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

"ChrisJ9876" wrote in message


  > >Date: 07/02/2004 2:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time

  > >
  > >


   > >> On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get ~38k
  > >when
   > >> we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered
calling
   > >> the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also
been
   > >> told that this wouldn't make any difference.
   > >>
   > >> Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers in
our
   > >> house, so does anyone have any ideas?
   > >>
   > >> Cheers for your help.
   > >>
  > >You need to pretty careful when talking about modem speeds,
  > >if you use a stop bit then there are 9 bits to the byte, so to speak.
  > >
  > >So...56/9 ~= 6 (6X9=54) so 6X8=48 which is the max I get on tests
  > >and mine uses one stop bit.
  > >
  > >
 >
 > Ummm...56k is 56k BITS/sec, not bytes, so your math is somewhat
irrelevant.

Well maybe, it depends on how the data rate is calculated if for instance
you go
to
<a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://start.maui.net/home/techsupport/bandwidth/image1.htm" target="_blank">http://start.maui.net/home/techsupport/bandwidth/image1.htm</a>
You will find your speed is determined simply by dividing the size of the
image in bytes by the time taken (X, however as I use a stop bit it should
be X9.
Also there will be a start bit two so it is X10 so......if I get the max
data rate 56kbs and they use their image size over time method all
is not as it seems, because 10 bit are transmitted for every 8 counted.
So the speed is 20% higher in reality.

Then of course there is the overhead of internet protocols to take into
account.
Also if you look at dial up networking bytes sent this is not going to
include start and stop bits.

I would imagine most phone lines are easilly capable of 56kps, I
mean when you upgrade to broadband they dont change the line of
they?

They dont lay down a whole new wire back to the exchange, its the
same line isn't it?

And those lines will be doing 10 times 56 kps (or 40X's in some cases).
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

It's BITS PER SECOND. if a byte was 5000bits it would still connect at a
max of 56kb/s


"half_pint" wrote in message

 >



   >> >Date: 07/02/2004 2:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time

   >> >
   >> >


   >> >> On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get
   >> >> ~38k
   >> >when
   >> >> we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered
 > calling
   >> >> the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also
 > been
   >> >> told that this wouldn't make any difference.
   >> >>
   >> >> Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers in
 > our
   >> >> house, so does anyone have any ideas?
   >> >>
   >> >> Cheers for your help.
   >> >>
   >> >You need to pretty careful when talking about modem speeds,
   >> >if you use a stop bit then there are 9 bits to the byte, so to speak.
   >> >
   >> >So...56/9 ~= 6 (6X9=54) so 6X8=48 which is the max I get on tests
   >> >and mine uses one stop bit.
   >> >
   >> >
  >>
  >> Ummm...56k is 56k BITS/sec, not bytes, so your math is somewhat
 > irrelevant.
 >
 > Well maybe, it depends on how the data rate is calculated if for instance
 > you go
 > to
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://start.maui.net/home/techsupport/bandwidth/image1.htm</font" target="_blank">http://start.maui.net/home/techsupport/bandwidth/image1.htm</font</a>>
 > You will find your speed is determined simply by dividing the size of the
 > image in bytes by the time taken (X, however as I use a stop bit it
 > should
 > be X9.
 > Also there will be a start bit two so it is X10 so......if I get the max
 > data rate 56kbs and they use their image size over time method all
 > is not as it seems, because 10 bit are transmitted for every 8 counted.
 > So the speed is 20% higher in reality.
 >
 > Then of course there is the overhead of internet protocols to take into
 > account.
 > Also if you look at dial up networking bytes sent this is not going to
 > include start and stop bits.
 >
 > I would imagine most phone lines are easilly capable of 56kps, I
 > mean when you upgrade to broadband they dont change the line of
 > they?
 >
 > They dont lay down a whole new wire back to the exchange, its the
 > same line isn't it?
 >
 > And those lines will be doing 10 times 56 kps (or 40X's in some cases).
 >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

"Alex B" wrote in message

 > 56k = 56k max if you're lucky. I've never been about 44k when forced to
use
 > dial up (usually when fixing virus infected laptops in work).

Well if you divide your 44 by 8 to get bits its 5.5 then times 10
to get bits including start and stop bits which is quite close the mythical
56k,
incidently the max rate I get on downloads is also 4.4 KBytes/second.

You will never transmit 56k of data bits in a second because extra bits
are added, the start and stop bits.

Sounds like you connection was working at a full 56k.

I could be wrong of course, but that doesnt happen very often.

--
half_pint




 >
 >


  > > Line quality might be the limiting factor. See if you can get the line
  > > provider and the isp provider to check it for you.
  > >
  > > Art Leonard
  > >
  > > Neil Barnwell wrote:
  > >
   > >> On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get ~38k
   > >> when
   > >> we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered
calling
   > >> the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also
been
   > >> told that this wouldn't make any difference.
   > >>
   > >> Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers in
   > >> our
   > >> house, so does anyone have any ideas?
   > >>
   > >> Cheers for your help.
   > >>
   > >> <Barney />
   > >>
   > >>
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

"DaveW" wrote in message

 > Your computer's distance from the local telephone switch determines what
the
 > speed of your connection is. If you live next door to the switch office
 > you'll get the 55k. If you live 10 miles away, you may only get 24k. The
 > level of line noise that the telephone company allows on its lines also
 > affects the transmission speed.


His line will probably take broadband. which is 10 times the bandwith
 >
 > --
 > DaveW
 >
 >
 >


  > > On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get ~38k
 > when
  > > we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered
calling
  > > the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also
been
  > > told that this wouldn't make any difference.
  > >
  > > Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers in
our
  > > house, so does anyone have any ideas?
  > >
  > > Cheers for your help.
  > >
  > > <Barney />
  > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

"Alex B" wrote in message

 > 56k = 56k max if you're lucky. I've never been about 44k when forced to
use
 > dial up (usually when fixing virus infected laptops in work).


You appear to be saying you have a broadband capable line
which is not capable of transmitting 56kbits/s, now that is
a rather slow broadband isnt it?



 >
 >


  > > Line quality might be the limiting factor. See if you can get the line
  > > provider and the isp provider to check it for you.
  > >
  > > Art Leonard
  > >
  > > Neil Barnwell wrote:
  > >
   > >> On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get ~38k
   > >> when
   > >> we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered
calling
   > >> the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also
been
   > >> told that this wouldn't make any difference.
   > >>
   > >> Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers in
   > >> our
   > >> house, so does anyone have any ideas?
   > >>
   > >> Cheers for your help.
   > >>
   > >> <Barney />
   > >>
   > >>
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

And your point is?
I am aware it is 56 kbits/second so what are you on about??????


"Alex B" wrote in message

 > It's BITS PER SECOND. if a byte was 5000bits it would still connect at a
 > max of 56kb/s
 >
 >


  > >



   > >> >Date: 07/02/2004 2:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time

   > >> >
   > >> >


   > >> >> On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get
   > >> >> ~38k
   > >> >when
   > >> >> we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered
  > > calling
   > >> >> the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also
  > > been
   > >> >> told that this wouldn't make any difference.
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers
in
  > > our
   > >> >> house, so does anyone have any ideas?
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Cheers for your help.
   > >> >>
   > >> >You need to pretty careful when talking about modem speeds,
   > >> >if you use a stop bit then there are 9 bits to the byte, so to speak.
   > >> >
   > >> >So...56/9 ~= 6 (6X9=54) so 6X8=48 which is the max I get on tests
   > >> >and mine uses one stop bit.
   > >> >
   > >> >
   > >>
   > >> Ummm...56k is 56k BITS/sec, not bytes, so your math is somewhat
  > > irrelevant.
  > >
  > > Well maybe, it depends on how the data rate is calculated if for
instance
  > > you go
  > > to
<font color=green>  > > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://start.maui.net/home/techsupport/bandwidth/image1.htm</font" target="_blank">http://start.maui.net/home/techsupport/bandwidth/image1.htm</font</a>>
  > > You will find your speed is determined simply by dividing the size of
the
  > > image in bytes by the time taken (X, however as I use a stop bit it
  > > should
  > > be X9.
  > > Also there will be a start bit two so it is X10 so......if I get the max
  > > data rate 56kbs and they use their image size over time method all
  > > is not as it seems, because 10 bit are transmitted for every 8 counted.
  > > So the speed is 20% higher in reality.
  > >
  > > Then of course there is the overhead of internet protocols to take into
  > > account.
  > > Also if you look at dial up networking bytes sent this is not going to
  > > include start and stop bits.
  > >
  > > I would imagine most phone lines are easilly capable of 56kps, I
  > > mean when you upgrade to broadband they dont change the line of
  > > they?
  > >
  > > They dont lay down a whole new wire back to the exchange, its the
  > > same line isn't it?
  > >
  > > And those lines will be doing 10 times 56 kps (or 40X's in some cases).
  > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

Try this

<a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/nsl.htm" target="_blank">http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/nsl.htm</a>

Just testing it my self, but it seems good, very useful, it shows me
receiving
data at a max 25.4KB and average of 6.2KB i think thats kilo bytes (must
be).

I used some pics from a newsgroup to tesy it (far to rude to say which one)
but basically you need to connected to a site (or newsgroup) which has
good through put at its end.


"Art Leonard" wrote in message

 > Line quality might be the limiting factor. See if you can get the line
 > provider and the isp provider to check it for you.
 >
 > Art Leonard
 >
 > Neil Barnwell wrote:
 >
  > > On our standard 56k dialup modem (in the UK, this is), we only get ~38k
when
  > > we connect. Are there any ways to correct this? I've considered
calling
  > > the phone company and asking them to turn up the gain, but I've also
been
  > > told that this wouldn't make any difference.
  > >
  > > Drivers etc are all up to date and this is happening on 2 computers in
our
  > > house, so does anyone have any ideas?
  > >
  > > Cheers for your help.
  > >
  > > <Barney />
  > >
  > >
  > >
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed 

Sorry dude - skimmed your post and misread it [insert embarrased face here
....]
 >> Stay informed about: Modem connection speed