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HammerToe

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:36 am
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I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit
Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode.

I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the
capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to
(something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment)
3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get
any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info;
everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my
TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates
the use of Wallpapers....

Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x
1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the
capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND
(PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my
goal????

Could I do so and get three moniors running 1600x1200 in Independent
Mode????

If so, would I see any 'Complication' in terms of CONFIGURING them the
way I want???

Would Matrox's Software (PowerDesk???) handle it OR would I have to
do/congigure the third monitor 'seperately'. (Or would it even be
possible...???)

Finally, if it DOES seem feasible (anyone out there actually DOING the
above???), could anyone recommend an suitable make/model of video
card???

TIA!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:36 am
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"HammerToe" <HammerToe.DeleteThis@online.com> wrote in message news:ue73g0pk2qjv7irfd8cqq3as6la59v3l08@4ax.com...
 > I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit
 > Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode.
 >
 > I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the
 > capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to
 > (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment)
 > 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get
 > any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info;
 > everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my
 > TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates
 > the use of Wallpapers....
 >
 > Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x
 > 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the
 > capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND
 > (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my
 > goal????

No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support
multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can
switch between the controllers and use them one at a time.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 3:11 am
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Rick wrote:

 > "HammerToe" <HammerToe.TakeThisOut@online.com> wrote in message
 > news:ue73g0pk2qjv7irfd8cqq3as6la59v3l08@4ax.com...
  >> I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit
  >> Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode.
  >>
  >> I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the
  >> capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to
  >> (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment)
  >> 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get
  >> any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info;
  >> everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my
  >> TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates
  >> the use of Wallpapers....
  >>
  >> Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x
  >> 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the
  >> capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND
  >> (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my
  >> goal????
 >
 > No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support
 > multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can
 > switch between the controllers and use them one at a time.

When was that support removed?

 > Rick

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 3:56 am
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"J. Clarke" <jclarke.RemoveThis@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:cdsokh02kmj@news2.newsguy.com...
 > Rick wrote:
 >
  > > "HammerToe" <HammerToe.RemoveThis@online.com> wrote in message
  > > news:ue73g0pk2qjv7irfd8cqq3as6la59v3l08@4ax.com...
   > >> I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit
   > >> Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode.
   > >>
   > >> I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the
   > >> capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to
   > >> (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment)
   > >> 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get
   > >> any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info;
   > >> everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my
   > >> TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates
   > >> the use of Wallpapers....
   > >>
   > >> Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x
   > >> 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the
   > >> capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND
   > >> (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my
   > >> goal????
  > >
  > > No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support
  > > multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can
  > > switch between the controllers and use them one at a time.
 >
 > When was that support removed?

That support was never there in the first place. Only one video
controller can be set as primary at a time -- simultaneous triple
(or whatever) monitor support has to come from the primary
controller's driver. You can't divide it up among multiple
adapters.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 8:52 am
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Rick wrote:

 > "J. Clarke" <jclarke.TakeThisOut@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
 > news:cdsokh02kmj@news2.newsguy.com...
  >> Rick wrote:
  >>
   >> > "HammerToe" <HammerToe.TakeThisOut@online.com> wrote in message
   >> > news:ue73g0pk2qjv7irfd8cqq3as6la59v3l08@4ax.com...
   >> >> I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit
   >> >> Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode.
   >> >>
   >> >> I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the
   >> >> capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to
   >> >> (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment)
   >> >> 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get
   >> >> any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info;
   >> >> everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my
   >> >> TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates
   >> >> the use of Wallpapers....
   >> >>
   >> >> Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x
   >> >> 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the
   >> >> capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND
   >> >> (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my
   >> >> goal????
   >> >
   >> > No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support
   >> > multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can
   >> > switch between the controllers and use them one at a time.
  >>
  >> When was that support removed?
 >
 > That support was never there in the first place. Only one video
 > controller can be set as primary at a time -- simultaneous triple
 > (or whatever) monitor support has to come from the primary
 > controller's driver. You can't divide it up among multiple
 > adapters.

I see. Someone needs to tell my copy of XP as it is going along blissfully
unaware of this limitation.

The ability to extend the desktop across up to ten monitors connected to as
many video boards as necessary to attach them is a documented feature of
Windows 2000 and XP. Only one of those monitors (not adapters--even if the
adapter has connections for many monitors only one of those monitors is
"primary") but it is not necessary that a display adapter be set as
"primary" in order to be used in an extended desktop.

The video adapters do not even have to be the same brand--some users are
running arch-rivals ATI and nvidia simultaneously.

Perhaps you are confusing the "multiple display" capability with the
"dualview" feature, or are thinking about the known issue involving
television signals and the video overlay feature.

You might want to call up the "help" in your Windows 2000 or XP system and
search on "multiple monitor".

If this capability does not work on your machine then you need to get
drivers that are not broken.

 > Rick

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:15 am
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"J. Clarke" <jclarke DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:cdtbv20hln@news3.newsguy.com...
 > Rick wrote:
 >
  > > "J. Clarke" <jclarke DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
  > > news:cdsokh02kmj@news2.newsguy.com...
   > >> Rick wrote:
   > >>
   > >> > "HammerToe" <HammerToe DeleteThis @online.com> wrote in message
   > >> > news:ue73g0pk2qjv7irfd8cqq3as6la59v3l08@4ax.com...
   > >> >> I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit
   > >> >> Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode.
   > >> >>
   > >> >> I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the
   > >> >> capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to
   > >> >> (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment)
   > >> >> 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get
   > >> >> any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info;
   > >> >> everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my
   > >> >> TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates
   > >> >> the use of Wallpapers....
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x
   > >> >> 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the
   > >> >> capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND
   > >> >> (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my
   > >> >> goal????
   > >> >
   > >> > No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support
   > >> > multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can
   > >> > switch between the controllers and use them one at a time.
   > >>
   > >> When was that support removed?
  > >
  > > That support was never there in the first place. Only one video
  > > controller can be set as primary at a time -- simultaneous triple
  > > (or whatever) monitor support has to come from the primary
  > > controller's driver. You can't divide it up among multiple
  > > adapters.
 >
 > I see. Someone needs to tell my copy of XP as it is going along blissfully
 > unaware of this limitation.
 >
 > The ability to extend the desktop across up to ten monitors

Reread the OP. That's not what he wants to do.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:06 pm
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"Rick" <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote in message news:2mfcp2FmefakU1@uni-berlin.de...
 > "J. Clarke" <jclarke.TakeThisOut@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:cdtbv20hln@news3.newsguy.com...
  > > Rick wrote:
  > >
   > > > "J. Clarke" <jclarke.TakeThisOut@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
   > > > news:cdsokh02kmj@news2.newsguy.com...
   > > >> Rick wrote:
   > > >>
   > > >> > "HammerToe" <HammerToe.TakeThisOut@online.com> wrote in message
   > > >> > news:ue73g0pk2qjv7irfd8cqq3as6la59v3l08@4ax.com...
   > > >> >> I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit
   > > >> >> Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode.
   > > >> >>
   > > >> >> I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the
   > > >> >> capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to
   > > >> >> (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment)
   > > >> >> 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get
   > > >> >> any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info;
   > > >> >> everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my
   > > >> >> TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates
   > > >> >> the use of Wallpapers....
   > > >> >>
   > > >> >> Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x
   > > >> >> 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the
   > > >> >> capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND
   > > >> >> (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my
   > > >> >> goal????
   > > >> >
   > > >> > No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support
   > > >> > multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can
   > > >> > switch between the controllers and use them one at a time.
   > > >>
   > > >> When was that support removed?
   > > >
   > > > That support was never there in the first place. Only one video
   > > > controller can be set as primary at a time -- simultaneous triple
   > > > (or whatever) monitor support has to come from the primary
   > > > controller's driver. You can't divide it up among multiple
   > > > adapters.
  > >
  > > I see. Someone needs to tell my copy of XP as it is going along blissfully
  > > unaware of this limitation.
  > >
  > > The ability to extend the desktop across up to ten monitors
 >
 > Reread the OP. That's not what he wants to do.

John, I think I see why you were confused. I need to elaborate
on my previous answer. What I'm saying is, support for
simultaneous *independent mode* on a third monitor would
have to come from the primary controller's driver, and as far
as I know Matrox (or any other manufacturer) doesn't support
this, if the third monitor is not on the primary adapter. I know
Windows itself does not support this.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:41 pm
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Rick wrote:

 > "Rick" <me RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
 > news:2mfcp2FmefakU1@uni-berlin.de...
  >> "J. Clarke" <jclarke RemoveThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
  >> news:cdtbv20hln@news3.newsguy.com...
   >> > Rick wrote:
   >> >
   >> > > "J. Clarke" <jclarke RemoveThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
   >> > > news:cdsokh02kmj@news2.newsguy.com...
   >> > >> Rick wrote:
   >> > >>
   >> > >> > "HammerToe" <HammerToe RemoveThis @online.com> wrote in message
   >> > >> > news:ue73g0pk2qjv7irfd8cqq3as6la59v3l08@4ax.com...
   >> > >> >> I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each),
   >> > >> >> 32 Bit Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode.
   >> > >> >>
   >> > >> >> I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only
   >> > >> >> the capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down'
   >> > >> >> to (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the
   >> > >> >> experiment) 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like
   >> > >> >> much. I don't get any more (for all intents and purposes)
   >> > >> >> 'pixels' to display more info; everything simply gets larger.
   >> > >> >> ALSO I really don't like having my TaskBar stretched across the
   >> > >> >> three monitors and it also complicates the use of Wallpapers....
   >> > >> >>
   >> > >> >> Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in
   >> > >> >> 1600 x 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with
   >> > >> >> only the capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I
   >> > >> >> could add a SECOND (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and
   >> > >> >> capabilites) and achieve my goal????
   >> > >> >
   >> > >> > No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support
   >> > >> > multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can
   >> > >> > switch between the controllers and use them one at a time.
   >> > >>
   >> > >> When was that support removed?
   >> > >
   >> > > That support was never there in the first place. Only one video
   >> > > controller can be set as primary at a time -- simultaneous triple
   >> > > (or whatever) monitor support has to come from the primary
   >> > > controller's driver. You can't divide it up among multiple
   >> > > adapters.
   >> >
   >> > I see. Someone needs to tell my copy of XP as it is going along
   >> > blissfully unaware of this limitation.
   >> >
   >> > The ability to extend the desktop across up to ten monitors
  >>
  >> Reread the OP. That's not what he wants to do.
 >
 > John, I think I see why you were confused. I need to elaborate
 > on my previous answer. What I'm saying is, support for
 > simultaneous *independent mode* on a third monitor would
 > have to come from the primary controller's driver, and as far
 > as I know Matrox (or any other manufacturer) doesn't support
 > this, if the third monitor is not on the primary adapter. I know
 > Windows itself does not support this.

I'm not clear on this "independent mode". The systems that I've used either
show the same desktop on all monitors or extend the desktop across multiple
monitors. I've not seen a system that shows different desktops on
different monitors, at least not under Windows.
 >
 > Rick

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:59 pm
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HammerToe <HammerToe.RemoveThis@online.com> wrote:

 >I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit
 >Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode.
 >
 >I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the
 >capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to
 >(something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment)
 >3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get
 >any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info;
 >everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my
 >TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates
 >the use of Wallpapers....
 >

The best place I have found for information
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/" target="_blank">http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/</a>

I have in the past run up to 4 separate Video Cards in one system with for
example a Matrox G400MAX in the AGP slot, a G400 PCI Dual Head and a Matrox
G200 PCI.

This gave me a total of 5 screen all with independent control of the colour
depth, resolution and size.

I am only up to a P650 so cannot help you for certain with the P750 apart
from the fact that the 3rd screen is in stretched mode according to the web
site.

I would suggest getting a Matrox PCI card 2nd hand plug it in and get a 3rd
or 4th screen up and running. One potential problem is some Motherboards
may have problems with this but the risk is not high.

I am back to 2 screens at the moment as I have change to LCD screens and
these (20") are a little expensive for me to get 5 at once. Smile

Hope this lot helps

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:42 am
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:59:45 +0200, "Andy@nospam.co.uk"
<me RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote:

 >HammerToe <HammerToe RemoveThis @online.com> wrote:
 >
  >>I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit
  >>Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode.
  >>
  >>I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the
  >>capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to
  >>(something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment)
  >>3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get
  >>any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info;
  >>everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my
  >>TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates
  >>the use of Wallpapers....
  >>
 >
 >The best place I have found for information
 >http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/
 >
 >I have in the past run up to 4 separate Video Cards in one system with for
 >example a Matrox G400MAX in the AGP slot, a G400 PCI Dual Head and a Matrox
 >G200 PCI.
 >
 >This gave me a total of 5 screen all with independent control of the colour
 >depth, resolution and size.
 >
 >I am only up to a P650 so cannot help you for certain with the P750 apart
 >from the fact that the 3rd screen is in stretched mode according to the web
 >site.
 >
 >I would suggest getting a Matrox PCI card 2nd hand plug it in and get a 3rd
 >or 4th screen up and running. One potential problem is some Motherboards
 >may have problems with this but the risk is not high.
 >
 >I am back to 2 screens at the moment as I have change to LCD screens and
 >these (20") are a little expensive for me to get 5 at once. Smile
 >
 >Hope this lot helps
 >
 >Andy

Hmmm. This is kind of interesting...

In the end, I thought the only way to find out for sure was to TRY
something so... I 'scouted around' in my Olde Parts bin and discovered
that I had a PCI Video card around - an old ATI All-In-Wonder Pro
based upon ATI's 'Rage Pro' chipset. The card only has 8MB of memory
on it but that is enough to give me 24bit color at 1600x1200. So, I
thought I'd give it a whirl...

I installed the card and attached a 3rd 19" monitor to it. I then had
to diddle a bit in the BIOS to init the ATI (PCI) Card first (the
setting had been AGP card first; seem to recall ready that it/ATI
'insists' that it be this way and booted a couple of times...

Windows XP discovered AND installed all the necessary drivers - not
just the normal video display drivers but ALSO drivers for the TV
tuner, a Video-Audio Crossbar driver and a couple of WDM drivers. I
should have checked before I did the install to see EXACTLY what it
might have added BUT the bottom line is that as far as I can tell (and
according to windows), there are no read x's or yellow !'s and
everything is functioning normally!!!

And, bottom line: EVERYTHING (so far, anyway) seems to be working
EXACTLY as I had hoped!

Pre the ATI PCI card installation. the two monitors driven by the P750
were running at 1600x1200 in Independent Mode, and I did not have to
do ANTHING with respect to the P750/PowerDesk and/or ITS monitors to
get the third one going. I left all the settings EXACTLY as they were.

***ALL*** I had to do was go into Display Properties->Settings ,
select Monitor 1 (the new Monitor hosted by the ATI card; now number 1
since the PCI card inits first) and 'turn on' 'Extend my Windows
Desktop onto this monitor' and VOILA!, it (the new monitor) 'came
up'/turned on.

The bottom line is that the new 3 monitor configuration is now runnig
as folows:

Monitor 1 (RHS, ATI card): 1600x1200 in 24 bit color @ 76Hz.
Monitor 2 (LHS, MM P750): 1600x1200 in 32 bit color @ 70Hz.
Monitor 3 (Center, MM P750): 1600x1200 in 32 bit color @ 70Hz.

Again, I didn't have to 'touch' the 750/its monitors/change anything
in Powerdesk AT ALL!!!!

***AND*** - the BEST part: I basically HAVE exactly what I wanted:
"INDEPENDENT MODE' across the three monitors:

a) My Taskbar is *still constrained to appareaing on a single monitor*
- Monitor #2, where it was 'originally' pre any of this tinkering,
AND

b) The 'standard' 1600x1200 wallpaper I was using also pre any of this
DISPLAYS CORRECTLY - each physical monitor showing it 'independently',
in full/undistorted...

The only wierd thing I've noticed so far (completely liveable, and I
think I may be able to tune/reconfigure it out) is that the PCI
card/monitor 'comes up first' at boot time and you must 'log in
on/thru IT' and then the Taskbar appears on #2 as described above.
Again, I think I can tune this out by specifying #1 as my Primary
Monitor in Display Properties and physically reorganizing the montor
so that it becomes the left-most one on my desktop (later test) but
even as things stand, I can live with things the way they are.

So, Bottom Line:looks like I've got essentially EXACTLY what I wanted:
3-19 inchers running at 1600x1200 in 'Independent Mode' (to use
Matrox's terminology) WITH my Taskbar and Wallpaper operating EXACTLY
as I would like.

I've got a bit more Tinkering to do... The next thing I want to try is
to install the corresponding ATI Multimedia Center software, connect
up a TV cable and see how the ATI TV works under XP/in this
configuration. My 'gut' teels me that I may have to leave the new
monitor as #1 and 'on my right' and live with logging in through IT
because I have this feeling that the TV won't display (for what seem
to be pretty obvious reasons) on Monitors 2 or 3 and I WANT the TV
picture on my right-most physical monitor ANYWAY.

Anyway, will post an update when I get complete my
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:42 am
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"HammerToe" <HammerToe.TakeThisOut@online.com> wrote in message news:39nbg0d2lae5mp422bmm3eet5hpqng4j9s@4ax.com...
 > ***AND*** - the BEST part: I basically HAVE exactly what I wanted:
 > "INDEPENDENT MODE' across the three monitors:
 >
 > a) My Taskbar is *still constrained to appareaing on a single monitor*
 > - Monitor #2, where it was 'originally' pre any of this tinkering,
 > AND
 >
 > b) The 'standard' 1600x1200 wallpaper I was using also pre any of this
 > DISPLAYS CORRECTLY - each physical monitor showing it 'independently',
 > in full/undistorted...

So if you maximize an app running on each monitor, it fills
the screen on only that monitor? Try it one at a time on
all three.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:54 pm
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"Rick" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:

 >"HammerToe" <HammerToe.DeleteThis@online.com> wrote in message news:39nbg0d2lae5mp422bmm3eet5hpqng4j9s@4ax.com...
  >> ***AND*** - the BEST part: I basically HAVE exactly what I wanted:
  >> "INDEPENDENT MODE' across the three monitors:
  >>
  >> a) My Taskbar is *still constrained to appareaing on a single monitor*
  >> - Monitor #2, where it was 'originally' pre any of this tinkering,
  >> AND
  >>
  >> b) The 'standard' 1600x1200 wallpaper I was using also pre any of this
  >> DISPLAYS CORRECTLY - each physical monitor showing it 'independently',
  >> in full/undistorted...
 >
 >So if you maximize an app running on each monitor, it fills
 >the screen on only that monitor? Try it one at a time on
 >all three.
 >
 >Rick
 >
 >

In the mode he is talking about yes each app would maximise to each screen.
You can drag the app to cover more if you want. I used to like Photoshop
with the window spread over 2 screens and email etc in the 3rd or 4th
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:54 pm
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"Andy@nospam.co.uk" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote in message news:d1dcg09fqfom4svbhk68v0at3jmnbv5ncc@4ax.com...
 > "Rick" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:
 >
  > >"HammerToe" <HammerToe.DeleteThis@online.com> wrote in message news:39nbg0d2lae5mp422bmm3eet5hpqng4j9s@4ax.com...
   > >> ***AND*** - the BEST part: I basically HAVE exactly what I wanted:
   > >> "INDEPENDENT MODE' across the three monitors:
   > >>
   > >> a) My Taskbar is *still constrained to appareaing on a single monitor*
   > >> - Monitor #2, where it was 'originally' pre any of this tinkering,
   > >> AND
   > >>
   > >> b) The 'standard' 1600x1200 wallpaper I was using also pre any of this
   > >> DISPLAYS CORRECTLY - each physical monitor showing it 'independently',
   > >> in full/undistorted...
  > >
  > >So if you maximize an app running on each monitor, it fills
  > >the screen on only that monitor? Try it one at a time on
  > >all three.
  > >
 >
 > In the mode he is talking about yes each app would maximise to each screen.
 > You can drag the app to cover more if you want. I used to like Photoshop
 > with the window spread over 2 screens and email etc in the 3rd or 4th
 > screens.

Well then I apologize for my misinformation.

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:32 pm
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:45:32 -0700, "Rick" <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote:

 >"HammerToe" <HammerToe.TakeThisOut@online.com> wrote in message news:39nbg0d2lae5mp422bmm3eet5hpqng4j9s@4ax.com...
  >> ***AND*** - the BEST part: I basically HAVE exactly what I wanted:
  >> "INDEPENDENT MODE' across the three monitors:
  >>
  >> a) My Taskbar is *still constrained to appareaing on a single monitor*
  >> - Monitor #2, where it was 'originally' pre any of this tinkering,
  >> AND
  >>
  >> b) The 'standard' 1600x1200 wallpaper I was using also pre any of this
  >> DISPLAYS CORRECTLY - each physical monitor showing it 'independently',
  >> in full/undistorted...
 >
 >So if you maximize an app running on each monitor, it fills
 >the screen on only that monitor? Try it one at a time on
 >all three.
 >
 >Rick
 >
 >
Yes. Minimize/Maximize An App operations (eg.double-click on Title
Bar) does result in the operations being confined to a/the single
montor that you happened to drag the window onto.

One can, if one wishes, manually 'stretch' a single all/window across
two or even three screens.

All in all, pretty nuch exactly what I wanted.

FWIW though, so far I have been completely unable to get the TV
function on the card though. The drivers and MMC install O.K. and
there appear to be no problems in Device Manager, etc. BUT the MMC TV
program will hang when I try to run it...

Oh well, no big deal. I just thought I would try to see if I could get
it working because it 'was there', and I don't really care too much if
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